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[2016-03-11 19:56:08] splash : BITMEX_Sam: about the PNL Calculator. An idea would be to make it possible to fill in the profit loss field and then the calc would render the exit price for you.
[2016-03-11 19:56:20] splash : That way you could easily calc where you want ur stoploss
[2016-03-11 19:57:54] splash : it could be like an "advance mode" or something that you have to open up
[2016-03-11 19:59:10] splash : wow look at that eth is moving up just as i thought it would, but im missing out on the action because i lost my position because i forgot that it was friday and contract settlement. ive got to be the best worst trader ever
[2016-03-11 20:01:17] elmorte : The eth market here seems to ignore/lag behind the index...so don't be too hard on yourself and there's still time to catch up
[2016-03-11 20:01:33] justinlooking : sam: thanks
[2016-03-11 20:05:50] splash : elmorte: thanks for the + energy
[2016-03-11 21:02:00] habibi : elmorte: more shorters so mm bot actually keeps orders this way
[2016-03-11 21:21:36] BTCDJS : splash: No. I am the worst trader ever :)
[2016-03-11 21:22:08] habibi : u still here :) so other u not loosing that fast or u refilling ur wallet :D
[2016-03-11 21:22:41] BTCDJS : habibi: you talking to me punk? :)
[2016-03-11 21:23:20] habibi : ;)
[2016-03-11 21:24:01] BTCDJS : I have an endless supply of money to waste
[2016-03-11 21:24:17] BTCDJS : until i learn to make some
[2016-03-11 21:24:41] BTCDJS : I just think of it as learning fees
[2016-03-11 21:27:39] splash : habibi: hello. how r u 2 day?
[2016-03-11 21:29:37] habibi : splash: hey, pretty boring, waiting for eth to make major move before homestead, whatever it goes, let volatility increase
[2016-03-11 21:29:54] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I signed up at oanda and one of their people called me today. When i sign up for a real account i get a free online course.
[2016-03-11 21:48:32] splash : habibi: smart move
[2016-03-11 21:49:04] habibi : expect some bigger dump but will see
[2016-03-11 22:16:57] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: recent trades stucks for me, need refresh to update data
[2016-03-11 22:29:00] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: ok, taking the course is not a bad idea since ur new to fx
[2016-03-11 22:31:02] rapidtrades : oanda's good cos u can trade single units like $1...most retailers only let u have lots of $100 or $1000 dollars...this makes it hard to test different strategies with real money
[2016-03-11 22:35:04] haxmb : Any admins here? :)
[2016-03-11 22:35:09] sleger : since when is 1$ real money ?
[2016-03-11 22:35:57] haxmb : I have a question about rate limits :)
[2016-03-11 22:36:58] rapidtrades : sleger: well well, if it isn't mr Maserati
[2016-03-11 22:37:46] rapidtrades : i think im getting sick, food tastes very different to me
[2016-03-11 22:37:58] rapidtrades : either that or everything's gotten bad at the same time
[2016-03-11 22:38:06] LR3NZ : sheeeeeeeeeeit...
[2016-03-11 22:38:24] LR3NZ : liquidated on factom and then it shoots up.. just another day
[2016-03-11 22:38:32] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: Yeah, any issue?
[2016-03-11 22:46:54] micmix : 30k FCT was added to the book on Polo
[2016-03-11 22:47:23] rapidtrades : micmix: thanks for REKT
[2016-03-11 22:47:56] micmix : rapidtrades: have to fix it for FCT, will do that later today
[2016-03-11 22:48:29] rapidtrades : meh, don't trade that shitcoin
[2016-03-11 22:49:23] micmix : FCT is 99% scam
[2016-03-11 22:49:51] micmix : and they are already exiting
[2016-03-11 22:53:59] habibi : bright future on bitmex then :D
[2016-03-11 22:55:03] micmix : spread on polo on FCT is 4% for 5 btc worth, books are super thin
[2016-03-11 22:55:39] habibi : yep funny to see lower spread here from time to time then on spot
[2016-03-11 22:57:17] rapidtrades : habibi: yah its hilarious
[2016-03-11 23:10:39] micmix : another 20k FCT for sale
[2016-03-11 23:15:18] rapidtrades : does any trade fx futures
[2016-03-11 23:22:03] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: heya Sam
[2016-03-11 23:22:23] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: just wondering, does the Rate Limit apply for order cancels too? :o
[2016-03-11 23:23:37] haxmb : because i would really hate to have my cancels not go through in a dumping or rising market
[2016-03-11 23:23:42] haxmb : because of the rate limit
[2016-03-11 23:30:05] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: Don't worry, we've thought of that
[2016-03-11 23:30:16] BitMEX_Sam : Cancels still count against your limit, but they are never stopped by it
[2016-03-11 23:30:31] BitMEX_Sam : So if you have 150 requests left, and you execute 10 cancels, you have 140 left
[2016-03-11 23:30:43] BitMEX_Sam : But if you have 5 left, and you execute 10 cancels, you have 0 requests left, yet all 10 cancels execute
[2016-03-11 23:31:45] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: ok cheers
[2016-03-11 23:31:58] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: you guys have the right format
[2016-03-11 23:32:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.02661 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 23:32:09] BitMEX_Sam : In general use bulk orders/amends/cancels when you can, it is cheaper on requests
[2016-03-11 23:32:26] haxmb : other exchanges Rate Limit cancels too, which has cost me a lot of $$ in the past
[2016-03-11 23:32:26] BitMEX_Sam : It triggers fewer individual risk checks on our end so we ratelimit them more generously.
[2016-03-11 23:32:48] BitMEX_Sam : Ah that's really awful. We added this exception back in beta after someone got caught out in the trading game
[2016-03-11 23:32:59] BitMEX_Sam : Cancels are incredibly cheap so there's no risk leaving them open.
[2016-03-11 23:33:03] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: great work, cheers
[2016-03-11 23:33:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.02644 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 23:33:10] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: good luck
[2016-03-11 23:33:16] haxmb : (Y)
[2016-03-11 23:33:19] haxmb : :O
[2016-03-11 23:33:50] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: oh and do you guys have MM privileges?
[2016-03-11 23:34:11] BitMEX_Sam : What do you mean?
[2016-03-11 23:34:16] haxmb : friend of mine is looking to maybe provide a lot of liquidity for ETH7D and FCT7D
[2016-03-11 23:34:20] BitMEX_Sam : Ah -
[2016-03-11 23:34:32] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, we offer maker rebates to all users, they're especially beneficial to MMs
[2016-03-11 23:34:48] BitMEX_Sam : We also increase ratelimits for anyone MMing a market at any decent size or spread
[2016-03-11 23:34:55] haxmb : ok, how? :)
[2016-03-11 23:34:57] BitMEX_Sam : Just email us, or have your friend email us - support@bitmex.com
[2016-03-11 23:35:02] haxmb : oh cool
[2016-03-11 23:35:39] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: cheers, will do
[2016-03-11 23:35:48] BitMEX_Sam : :shipit:
[2016-03-12 00:16:47] justinlooking : am tempted to register isbitcoin420.com
[2016-03-12 00:27:11] tscha : lol
[2016-03-12 00:48:59] rapidtrades : im so f*cking bored, thinking about learning some coding
[2016-03-12 00:59:37] tscha : in excel?
[2016-03-12 01:06:31] rapidtrades : maybe, lot of traders are doing basic tests with excel
[2016-03-12 01:07:31] tscha : good luck then
[2016-03-12 01:19:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.01
[2016-03-12 02:20:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1783 @ 0.02907
[2016-03-12 02:32:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 419.85
[2016-03-12 02:33:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1300 @ 419.77
[2016-03-12 02:34:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1072 @ 419.72
[2016-03-12 03:02:43] peasant-wizard : Curious to see ETH7D not much action?
[2016-03-12 03:03:08] peasant-wizard : Considering what's happening on Polo right now
[2016-03-12 03:05:23] peasant-wizard : nvm theres the volume :)
[2016-03-12 03:10:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 86096 @ 418.96 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-03-12 03:10:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 419.14 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-12 03:11:24] pajak666 : ETH will be added to bitfinex
[2016-03-12 03:14:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 22087 @ 415.14 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-03-12 03:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 422 @ 0.03182
[2016-03-12 03:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 25 @ 0.03214
[2016-03-12 03:58:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.03283
[2016-03-12 03:58:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 8223 @ 0.03285
[2016-03-12 04:24:56] j8 : eth market cap $1 billion
[2016-03-12 04:25:06] j8 : that's 2.4 million btc
[2016-03-12 04:26:47] micmix : not bad for a coin that's not supposed to be a store of value. no one even knows how many coins will be issued
[2016-03-12 04:29:08] j8 : yep, it's running on a lot of hype
[2016-03-12 04:31:16] j8 : i made an impulse buy as soon as i saw the e-mail from bitfinex. worked out well
[2016-03-12 04:33:25] micmix : yep, same here, already closed
[2016-03-12 04:35:32] j8 : same. looks like someone knew 3 hours ago
[2016-03-12 04:36:08] micmix : I was buying yesterday but it was before the settlement, stupid me
[2016-03-12 04:39:02] micmix : bought again after settlement but the price was 0.02755 instead of 0.02646
[2016-03-12 04:40:50] j8 : eth is a complete gamble for me. generally want to be short but the timing is tricky
[2016-03-12 04:42:56] micmix : yeah, I had to close my short on Polo with 5 coins loss, still waiting to re-short
[2016-03-12 04:52:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9800 @ 413.58
[2016-03-12 04:54:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 412.66
[2016-03-12 04:54:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9151 @ 412.51
[2016-03-12 04:54:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9569 @ 412.48
[2016-03-12 04:55:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6412 @ 411.68
[2016-03-12 04:55:01] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-03-12 05:04:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 11002 @ 413.00
[2016-03-12 05:05:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 191 @ 412.48
[2016-03-12 05:22:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 5000 @ 411.49
[2016-03-12 05:23:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6001 @ 410.06
[2016-03-12 05:24:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 67 @ 415.03
[2016-03-12 05:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 31 @ 408.88
[2016-03-12 05:41:01] chromaticcr : MOAR REKT PLS
[2016-03-12 05:48:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 30 @ 412.05
[2016-03-12 06:10:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 9 @ 0.03201
[2016-03-12 06:10:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1028 @ 0.03202
[2016-03-12 06:11:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 27 @ 0.03208
[2016-03-12 06:41:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 10000 @ 414.17
[2016-03-12 07:12:07] S410520 : what is Withheld Profit?
[2016-03-12 07:14:19] BitMEX_Wally : S410520: https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq#why-is-my-profit-withheld
[2016-03-12 07:15:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 4012 @ 0.03222
[2016-03-12 07:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.03238 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-12 07:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 669 @ 0.03232
[2016-03-12 07:37:21] S410520 : BitMEX_Wally: alright then
[2016-03-12 07:43:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.03264
[2016-03-12 07:49:20] rapidtrades : lol a new high for eth
[2016-03-12 07:49:51] habibi : yea shocked as well, glad didnt sleep with short. finex is adding so pump is coz of it basically
[2016-03-12 07:50:47] rapidtrades : finex ix adding eth huh
[2016-03-12 07:50:55] rapidtrades : what nuckleheads
[2016-03-12 07:53:27] rapidtrades : and of course btc is down
[2016-03-12 07:58:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.03196
[2016-03-12 08:54:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 175 @ 413.55
[2016-03-12 09:32:29] viptrader : buy ETH here
[2016-03-12 09:34:25] habibi : u will have more influence on polo :)
[2016-03-12 09:34:57] viptrader : buy buy buy
[2016-03-12 09:35:43] micmix : viptrader: you forgot to tell us that we have to buy FCT too
[2016-03-12 09:35:59] viptrader : FCT is shit
[2016-03-12 09:36:02] viptrader : just ETH
[2016-03-12 09:36:07] viptrader : at support level here
[2016-03-12 09:36:46] micmix : ah ok, thanks for the advice. I'll buy after I see your buy for couple hundred ETH :-)
[2016-03-12 09:39:18] micmix : BTW, I fixed the REKT bot, will show FCT correctly. Also it uses websocket now, so it's faster and won't miss any liquidations
[2016-03-12 09:40:08] viptrader : buy buy buy buy
[2016-03-12 09:40:12] habibi : thx micmix
[2016-03-12 09:41:04] chromaticcr : micmix: thx for the REKT service, love it!
[2016-03-12 09:41:31] micmix : chromaticcr: you're welcome!
[2016-03-12 09:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 15 @ 0.03073
[2016-03-12 09:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 28 @ 0.03056
[2016-03-12 09:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 8 @ 0.03064
[2016-03-12 09:43:15] habibi : nice call viptrader
[2016-03-12 09:43:54] donkey : lol
[2016-03-12 09:44:14] chromaticcr : 0.03 is the new floor
[2016-03-12 09:44:27] chromaticcr : get rekt now or never!
[2016-03-12 09:45:02] micmix : we need ETH REKTosaurus :-)
[2016-03-12 09:45:34] micmix : no, take it back, I don't want DPE on ETH
[2016-03-12 09:50:02] haxmb : yeah fuck DPE :O
[2016-03-12 09:51:20] haxmb : <3
[2016-03-12 10:02:51] tscha : gonna be interesting what happens when eth hits finex
[2016-03-12 10:19:45] rocky766 : test
[2016-03-12 10:20:19] chromaticcr : pong!
[2016-03-12 10:20:30] rocky766 : =.=
[2016-03-12 10:57:32] haxmb : tscha: shit's gonna go boom
[2016-03-12 10:57:38] haxmb : up or down, dont care :D
[2016-03-12 10:58:00] haxmb : short that sumb*tch into oblivion
[2016-03-12 12:38:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.03263 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-12 12:41:39] splash : what is eth7d getting its data from? polo?
[2016-03-12 12:42:02] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it comes from polo
[2016-03-12 12:42:27] chromaticcr : and it settles with polo price 2hour time weighted average
[2016-03-12 12:42:41] kingscrown : so seems my march 2019 report of what to buy was 100% correct, everything raised. http://fuk.io/march-2016-report-my-choose-of-best-altcoins-to-invest-into/
[2016-03-12 12:48:18] chromaticcr1 : best "trade", apply for drcred when they are Airdropping, dump it all in the first pump. That's like 1 free Bitcoin for 0 risk.
[2016-03-12 12:48:59] zanza : finex will not have leverage at first, no casino guys sorry!
[2016-03-12 12:51:17] Mangalica : i saw their DRK thing on beta a while ago and came here (and to stakepool) to talk about it.
[2016-03-12 12:51:41] arbitrage001 : finex probably notice a huge outflow of money
[2016-03-12 12:51:50] Mangalica : i figured the were planning to add ETH. Then someone else spotted ETH itself on beta and it was a done deal
[2016-03-12 12:52:00] arbitrage001 : and figured eth is the reason why traders moving money away
[2016-03-12 12:52:32] arbitrage001 : hence they are adding eth/usd pair
[2016-03-12 12:52:36] arbitrage001 : to stop the bleeding
[2016-03-12 12:53:29] Mangalica : so anyway, the rumor went off and then zane announced on reddit that they had no plans to add ETH at all
[2016-03-12 12:54:23] arbitrage001 : zane is a pr person
[2016-03-12 12:54:33] Mangalica : it was surprising but whatever. They waited for me to sell some presale ETH and madeannouncement at 3 am my time
[2016-03-12 12:54:38] Mangalica : lol
[2016-03-12 12:55:11] arbitrage001 : you sold all your eth?
[2016-03-12 12:55:14] Mangalica : nah
[2016-03-12 12:55:23] Mangalica : but i have sold more than originally planned
[2016-03-12 12:55:35] arbitrage001 : i think eth is a bubble
[2016-03-12 12:55:59] arbitrage001 : can probably go higher before it burst
[2016-03-12 12:56:07] arbitrage001 : problem is
[2016-03-12 12:56:19] arbitrage001 : when is a good time to eit
[2016-03-12 12:56:23] arbitrage001 : exit
[2016-03-12 12:56:26] Mangalica : eth has more USD worth added to the float every day than BTC does at this point
[2016-03-12 12:56:34] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-03-12 12:56:53] arbitrage001 : and btc burst many times
[2016-03-12 12:58:20] arbitrage001 : value of a coin has to come from something other than demand
[2016-03-12 12:59:56] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: no response from polo yet....
[2016-03-12 13:00:25] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: interest is sky rocketin
[2016-03-12 13:00:44] arbitrage001 : saw 1.6% like 10 mins ago
[2016-03-12 13:00:50] Mangalica : on BTC?
[2016-03-12 13:01:00] arbitrage001 : Mangalica: yes
[2016-03-12 13:01:08] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: what a fat market order
[2016-03-12 13:01:09] arbitrage001 : so the question is
[2016-03-12 13:01:20] arbitrage001 : why hold eth when you can lend btc
[2016-03-12 13:01:51] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: the questoin is, why trade on polo. Get'em rekt on BitMEX with my ref link bro!
[2016-03-12 13:02:04] Mangalica : i think a lot of people will be bringing back their money in the form of ETH to Finex
[2016-03-12 13:02:16] Mangalica : or plan to
[2016-03-12 13:02:22] Mangalica : which should dampen a crash maybe
[2016-03-12 13:03:02] Mangalica : they went from Bfx to Polo with BTC and will return with ETH if the price keeps up
[2016-03-12 13:03:56] Mangalica : but there is also there is the sell the news (/launch) factor, unless one of the chinese gambling houses announce something as well
[2016-03-12 13:04:25] chromaticcr1 : earning the last dime is costly @Mangalica
[2016-03-12 13:05:01] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: 1% again
[2016-03-12 13:05:12] arbitrage001 : how nice
[2016-03-12 13:05:39] arbitrage001 : all my money stucked on finex withdraw queue
[2016-03-12 13:05:47] Mangalica : someone has been going around borrowing thousands only to put it in a wall WAY down the book
[2016-03-12 13:05:53] chromaticcr1 : finex is quite efficient imho
[2016-03-12 13:05:59] arbitrage001 : i want my 1%
[2016-03-12 13:06:16] Mangalica : i dont know whether the goal is to pop up the book or to make margin longs expensive
[2016-03-12 13:06:29] Mangalica : *prop
[2016-03-12 13:07:37] chromaticcr1 : will attempt to wd all my liquid coins on polo once it goes down below 0.025
[2016-03-12 13:11:45] chromaticcr1 : not worth the risk when casc.MCall happens, we already had a close call at Mar6|14:55
[2016-03-12 13:12:18] chromaticcr1 : 2759->2250 in 10 minutes
[2016-03-12 13:17:26] zanza : i think the ETH spike is just protest against small blocks/Core
[2016-03-12 13:17:55] Mangalica : yeah that's part of it
[2016-03-12 13:19:02] chromaticcr1 : zanza: that's a costly way to protest
[2016-03-12 13:21:06] Mangalica : a lot of people have serious concerns and resorted to buying the ETH lottery ticket a while back
[2016-03-12 13:21:56] Mangalica : then you have the ones that see the volume and think "well it's either gonna be BTC or ETH then" and jump in
[2016-03-12 13:22:05] chromaticcr1 : wait for macros align -> pump. News out-> dump
[2016-03-12 13:22:32] chromaticcr1 : network base is not so easy to manipulate
[2016-03-12 13:25:09] arbitrage001 : eth is even more centralized than btc
[2016-03-12 13:25:14] arbitrage001 : when it comes to decision maing
[2016-03-12 13:25:18] arbitrage001 : making
[2016-03-12 13:25:39] arbitrage001 : so people betting eth replacing btc is making mistake
[2016-03-12 13:25:57] arbitrage001 : gamblers always lose
[2016-03-12 13:41:28] habibi : so other group betting eth will get rekt, will loose as well according to that logic? :p
[2016-03-12 13:42:20] arbitrage001 : habibi: everyone is guessing
[2016-03-12 13:47:11] elmorte : Polo's one confirmation doesn't really mean one confirmation, does it
[2016-03-12 13:47:53] elmorte : Ha, gods are listening!
[2016-03-12 15:13:19] rapidtrades : elmorte: gods of Wreckage maybe
[2016-03-12 15:18:50] BitMEX_Sam : ETH is moody
[2016-03-12 15:31:09] chromaticcr1 : clam before the storm
[2016-03-12 15:33:41] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: how about daily eth??
[2016-03-12 15:36:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 411.42
[2016-03-12 15:37:32] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: i guess what you want is 100x rather than settling every day
[2016-03-12 15:38:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4000 @ 410.91
[2016-03-12 15:38:39] aethlios : chromaticcr1: daily settlement I prefer, works like an option expiring in 24H or less.
[2016-03-12 15:38:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 410.44
[2016-03-12 15:39:16] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: why would you prefer settling instead of having it closed by urself?
[2016-03-12 15:39:45] chromaticcr1 : even as a weekly, eth traces the underlying quite well imho
[2016-03-12 15:42:34] aethlios : chromaticcr1: because you can't close a big position easily. if I am long now 250 on 7D is difficult to close it, but if it expires in 2 hours is better. daily expiration works like a stop loss.
[2016-03-12 15:45:39] sleger : wow some people have no idea what an option is or even a stop loss
[2016-03-12 16:02:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 408.15
[2016-03-12 16:05:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 750 @ 413.52
[2016-03-12 17:04:21] zanza : https://twitter.com/bitcoin_comics/status/708544270966267904
[2016-03-12 17:15:55] laisee : zanza: games over. bitcoin lost.
[2016-03-12 17:46:45] 31133113 : hi
[2016-03-12 17:50:13] 31133113 : laisee: this ETH silliness will be hilarious when BTC surpasses 10k and ETH is still 8-9 dollars
[2016-03-12 18:01:20] rapidtrades : 31133113: did u make ur account when eth was 0.031133113?
[2016-03-12 18:01:43] rapidtrades : it's now 0.03256, sour grapes b1tch
[2016-03-12 18:08:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 477 @ 0.03273
[2016-03-12 18:18:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 298 @ 0.00633
[2016-03-12 18:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1363 @ 0.03275
[2016-03-12 18:51:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 28 @ 0.03223
[2016-03-12 19:35:31] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: what would happen in u would catch a really bottom at mark price@eth - start liquidation and then price would go up above profit point, would u auto adjust to that point to take actual profit from liquidation?
[2016-03-12 19:37:29] habibi : nothing wrong about it, just asking :)
[2016-03-12 20:40:35] splash : hi habibi
[2016-03-12 20:41:04] splash : whats upp?
[2016-03-12 21:08:49] viptrader : buy buy buy ETH
[2016-03-12 21:20:07] rapidtrades : ^this fecking guy...
[2016-03-12 21:25:58] splash : yea that eth was going up was kind of no brainer
[2016-03-12 21:26:28] splash : odds of btc going down at least 10% also at least 75% probability so no wonder we got a retrace here
[2016-03-12 21:27:19] splash : check the chat logs n c that im not making things up
[2016-03-12 21:27:49] splash : to bad im only loosing money
[2016-03-12 21:28:07] splash : dont get it
[2016-03-12 21:28:31] splash : i say one thing on the chat and do the other thing on the trades
[2016-03-12 21:44:05] viptrader : BUY BUY BUY ETH
[2016-03-12 22:14:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 298 @ 0.03287
[2016-03-12 22:22:56] rapidtrades : u know before this latest surge we had some intelligent discussion about eth here...
[2016-03-12 22:23:15] rapidtrades : that guy jung would post reasonable reasons why eth is a good coin...
[2016-03-12 22:23:25] rapidtrades : NOW we have this tool spamming BUY BUY BUY
[2016-03-12 22:32:22] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: BUY BUY BUY BTC
[2016-03-12 22:33:04] BTCDJS : MINE MINE MINE ETH
[2016-03-12 23:47:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 640 @ 0.03289
[2016-03-13 00:08:46] Bauer : Hi! Any admins/mods here to help with a problem?
[2016-03-13 00:09:47] Bauer : Sorry, never mind. Seems that it sorted it self out =)
[2016-03-13 00:30:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 6484 @ 0.03329
[2016-03-13 00:30:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.00569
[2016-03-13 00:31:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 6000 @ 0.00565
[2016-03-13 00:32:26] Mangalica : new ATH...
[2016-03-13 00:32:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 7 @ 0.03363
[2016-03-13 00:33:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.03377
[2016-03-13 00:40:52] rapidtrades : anyone logged in polo right now?
[2016-03-13 00:44:26] mrnet : no
[2016-03-13 00:57:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 60 @ 0.03464
[2016-03-13 00:59:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1743 @ 0.03475
[2016-03-13 00:59:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 70 @ 0.03475
[2016-03-13 01:05:26] rapidtrades : 0.034 gentlemen...we've hit a new milestone for this shitcoin
[2016-03-13 01:06:28] rapidtrades : $ 1,087,318,413 market cap
[2016-03-13 01:06:31] rapidtrades : cos why not
[2016-03-13 01:07:02] rapidtrades : a cool billion for a coin that's not accepted anymore but exchanges...to sell to other fools
[2016-03-13 01:07:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 350 @ 0.03465
[2016-03-13 01:08:58] rapidtrades : god bless America
[2016-03-13 01:09:01] rapidtrades : and no place else
[2016-03-13 01:49:21] elmorte : Shouldn't have gone to sleep with a short, heh
[2016-03-13 02:21:56] peasant-wizard : Where can I see the profit or loss of my last trade? I see CashSettlement in Wallet and Trade History...
[2016-03-13 02:28:05] rapidtrades : trade history
[2016-03-13 02:30:38] rapidtrades : what's the current lending rate for btc on polo?
[2016-03-13 02:32:56] j8 : rapidtrades: 0.3% or so
[2016-03-13 02:41:28] viptrader : sell sell sell ETH
[2016-03-13 03:03:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 868 @ 0.03514
[2016-03-13 03:32:18] 31133113 : hi, in the Recent Trades how come some trades are in black?
[2016-03-13 03:32:51] 31133113 : rapidtrades: 0.3%
[2016-03-13 03:33:27] BitMEX_Wally : 31133113: Black means the price stayed the same
[2016-03-13 04:02:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1600 @ 0.03544
[2016-03-13 04:12:38] 31133113 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2016-03-13 05:29:24] neodmt : Hello can someone let me know if you can loan btc on bitmex?
[2016-03-13 05:34:40] j8 : neodmt: you can't, although occasionally we have people begging for loans in the trollbox
[2016-03-13 05:39:04] gaoMex : Would like to earn basis between XBT Mar and Jun contracts
[2016-03-13 05:39:33] gaoMex : can the appropriate MM please update the books?
[2016-03-13 05:59:34] gaoMex : Can the spread be tigther?
[2016-03-13 06:00:06] gaoMex : There isn't any basis to earn if the spread is so wide
[2016-03-13 06:34:23] chromaticcr : lol
[2016-03-13 09:06:17] BitcoinLIFE : Guys how does ETH margin work? Why does it say 'Every Friday' am I not allowed to open a position today?
[2016-03-13 09:10:56] BitcoinLIFE : I can't deposit ETH?
[2016-03-13 09:11:08] BitcoinLIFE : How do people sell ETH then? What........
[2016-03-13 09:18:55] BitMEX_Arthur : BitcoinLIFE: you only need Bitcoin
[2016-03-13 09:19:10] BitMEX_Arthur : deposit some Bitcoin then sell ETH7D
[2016-03-13 09:19:22] BitMEX_Arthur : you profit will be in Bitcoin as well
[2016-03-13 09:20:12] BitMEX_Arthur : you can open a position today but it will expire and settle on Friday
[2016-03-13 09:22:45] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: I wouldn't be able to close position earlier?
[2016-03-13 09:34:26] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: Nor am I able to deposit ETH at all?
[2016-03-13 09:35:10] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: Can I know if there are any changes coming in regards the all the points I brought up tomorrow being Homestead release?
[2016-03-13 09:41:20] Mangalica : of course you can close any time
[2016-03-13 09:43:28] BitcoinLIFE : Mangalica: Will I also take my loss or profit along with the close on the position? Or is it a case of, if I close the position prior to Friday then I wont earn the profit.
[2016-03-13 09:45:47] Mangalica : Yes your p&l will materialize when you close it. You might not be able to withdraw all of your profit before Friday's settlement but that's all.
[2016-03-13 09:47:10] Mangalica : Say you made 5 BTC profit, it will appear in your account as such, but you might only be able to withdraw 2 BTC of it during the week and 3 BTC (all of it) after settlement.
[2016-03-13 09:51:33] Mangalica : Settlement basically unwinds all positions and brings the books to 0. No more floating p&l.
[2016-03-13 09:53:24] BitcoinLIFE : Mangalica: Beautiful (y). My last question is, by your experience, how long does it take for BTC to show up in my wallet here?
[2016-03-13 09:54:42] Mangalica : 1 confirmation (~10 minutes)
[2016-03-13 09:55:01] Mangalica : 10 mins on average, anyway
[2016-03-13 10:04:42] BitcoinLIFE : Mangalica: (Y) Amazing. Thank you for everything! Bless
[2016-03-13 10:19:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 10000 @ 414.56
[2016-03-13 11:42:04] rapidtrades : good mornong fellas
[2016-03-13 11:42:12] chromaticcr1 : yo
[2016-03-13 11:48:57] chromaticcr1 : rapidtrades: you wake up on time everyday for the settlement?
[2016-03-13 11:49:24] rapidtrades : i try
[2016-03-13 11:50:30] chromaticcr1 : rapidtrades: i would have fallen asleep by now...
[2016-03-13 11:54:45] rapidtrades : settlement has been shit since the roll got introduced
[2016-03-13 11:56:12] chromaticcr1 : coz no one is "locking in" their p&l
[2016-03-13 11:56:41] habibi : noone playing here on btc anymore kinda, a bit bots wars only
[2016-03-13 11:56:58] chromaticcr1 : depth = 15
[2016-03-13 11:57:25] chromaticcr1 : FINALLY!
[2016-03-13 11:57:33] rapidtrades : only 20k contract to close...and 15 just went out
[2016-03-13 12:05:44] chromaticcr1 : the 15k wasn't a close vs close
[2016-03-13 12:06:25] chromaticcr1 : it was just changing hands
[2016-03-13 12:08:52] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: yeah didn't think smone would be that stupid
[2016-03-13 12:09:51] chromaticcr1 : we need more stupid people and poor risk managment ppl around
[2016-03-13 12:10:47] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: doesn't always help, just look at eth
[2016-03-13 12:12:34] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: i have hidden order, then someone post at same price order, i close order by X on orderbook and the X still remains there even order is closed
[2016-03-13 12:13:19] BitMEX_Wally : Sounds like a bug, if the order is not in Active Orders then it is canceled
[2016-03-13 12:14:31] habibi : yep, order is canceled, clicking x resumes with simple no order found information, anyway it updated now and its good
[2016-03-13 12:14:59] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, I have recreated
[2016-03-13 12:15:02] BitMEX_Wally : Will get Sam to fix
[2016-03-13 12:16:37] BitMEX_Wally : Displaying hidden orders in the order book is tricky at best
[2016-03-13 12:17:04] BitMEX_Wally : It kind of works if there is another order, but we should probably disable it until we come up with a proper solution
[2016-03-13 12:17:42] BitMEX_Wally : Thanks for letting us know
[2016-03-13 12:22:48] chromaticcr1 : polo's rate is going down, madness over?
[2016-03-13 12:25:48] Mangalica : almost 4.5k BTC available to borrow
[2016-03-13 12:26:07] Mangalica : highest ever i've seen
[2016-03-13 12:27:24] chromaticcr1 : good luck with those coins
[2016-03-13 12:32:17] rapidtrades : whatts the rate yo
[2016-03-13 12:36:12] Mangalica : 0.23 ish
[2016-03-13 12:36:32] elmorte : https://poloniex.com/lending#BTC Don't have to be logged in
[2016-03-13 13:27:49] rapidtrades : now down to 0.2%, dropping pretty fast
[2016-03-13 13:30:11] rapidtrades : large dis-balance, they'll prolly keep falling
[2016-03-13 13:48:08] NukeLaloosh : rapidtrades: i've watched polo's rate fluctuate a good bit, even had fills at 1% and 2%. I've some out right now at 0.4%. Wouldn't say the party is over quite yet
[2016-03-13 13:58:42] Plasma : @NukeLaloosh , what the end game?
[2016-03-13 14:04:38] NukeLaloosh : ha! if i only knew. ask the smart guys...
[2016-03-13 14:24:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 25 @ 413.01
[2016-03-13 14:32:15] arbitrage001 : is finex down?
[2016-03-13 14:35:06] aethlios : arbitrage001: no
[2016-03-13 14:35:59] arbitrage001 : having trouble loading the site
[2016-03-13 14:38:36] eth2mars : guys, i just registered. any chart available? can't locate
[2016-03-13 14:53:01] habibi : hard to miss chart on new ui
[2016-03-13 15:02:34] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: got response!
[2016-03-13 15:03:38] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: what did they say
[2016-03-13 15:04:33] chromaticcr1 : Hereyou go
[2016-03-13 15:04:34] chromaticcr1 : http://imgur.com/5def67t
[2016-03-13 15:04:43] chromaticcr1 : Bunch-a-crap? i guess
[2016-03-13 15:08:04] chromaticcr1 : What do you think? Time for black swan?
[2016-03-13 15:09:51] arbitrage001 : even bitfinex experience a few major cascading margin call with 4 to 1 leverage
[2016-03-13 15:10:10] arbitrage001 : what leverage polo give?
[2016-03-13 15:11:19] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: are you able to login finex? have been trying for the last 2 hours
[2016-03-13 15:12:03] chromaticcr1 : maint of polo: 20% (acc bust when 5x leveraged) maint of finex: 15% (=6.66x)
[2016-03-13 15:13:04] chromaticcr1 : A-OK
[2016-03-13 15:13:19] chromaticcr1 : response time ~10 seconds
[2016-03-13 15:17:28] rapidtrades : finex works fine here...but not gonna try to relogin :)
[2016-03-13 15:38:33] rapidtrades : ETA for ETH on finex?
[2016-03-13 15:38:47] habibi : 7 hours, 22 minutes or sth like that?
[2016-03-13 15:39:04] habibi : 8 hours 22 minutes, sorry
[2016-03-13 15:39:08] habibi : utc midnight
[2016-03-13 15:39:50] rapidtrades : so that's when btc lending rates will spike huh
[2016-03-13 15:41:04] rapidtrades : can I take btc loans now and offer them tonight to fomo-ers?
[2016-03-13 15:41:23] rapidtrades : I'm guessing that btc can't be lend out
[2016-03-13 15:41:39] habibi : margin trading will be online in next few days as a market will get liquid according to news
[2016-03-13 15:42:11] rapidtrades : but btc is already online so...
[2016-03-13 15:42:28] rapidtrades : and u need btc o buy eth no?
[2016-03-13 15:42:42] elmorte : It's in the finex announcement, there will be no margin trading immediately
[2016-03-13 15:42:53] rapidtrades : k
[2016-03-13 15:42:53] elmorte : Only after a few days as @habibi said
[2016-03-13 15:42:56] rapidtrades : k
[2016-03-13 15:43:04] rapidtrades : party pooper
[2016-03-13 15:43:35] elmorte : But I guess you could lend it out now :)
[2016-03-13 15:44:55] elmorte : btc-e still down...would be interesting if they've added ETH when they come back
[2016-03-13 15:45:55] rapidtrades : elmorte: wtf i didn't even notice that
[2016-03-13 15:46:03] rapidtrades : that unreliable pos
[2016-03-13 15:46:16] elmorte : It's been a few hrs already
[2016-03-13 15:46:34] habibi : around 10
[2016-03-13 15:46:38] elmorte : I emptied out my account exactly 24 hrs ago
[2016-03-13 15:46:40] habibi : 10 hours*
[2016-03-13 15:47:06] rapidtrades : well that's not good
[2016-03-13 15:53:11] rapidtrades : a lot of my short exposure is on there too...so if they don't come back and we crash, it wont be pretty
[2016-03-13 16:27:14] kingscrown : free money guide https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/709052816682303488
[2016-03-13 16:30:34] rapidtrades : u spammer...90% of ur twitter is affiliate links
[2016-03-13 16:31:04] rapidtrades : the only thing free in this world is ur momma's herpes
[2016-03-13 16:39:38] 31133113 : hello Support, i saw on the Fees page there's a negative fee for makers. Wondering how come I see a Realized fee for my executed FCT limit trade?
[2016-03-13 16:41:10] Teddy76 : 31133113: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-03-13 16:44:41] 31133113 : Teddy76: thanks - i guess Realized P&L in the Positions tab is a cumulative of all trades
[2016-03-13 16:46:07] Teddy76 : Yes, since last settlement
[2016-03-13 16:49:19] BitcoinLIFE : Can you guys please vote http://strawpoll.me/7071802/r
[2016-03-13 16:49:51] BitMEX_Wally : Yes the Realised P&L in the position table is cumulative
[2016-03-13 16:54:09] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: is it true that Poloniex is under DDOS? your mark prices on ETH7D are in real time?
[2016-03-13 16:54:43] Plasma : something is going down
[2016-03-13 16:54:53] BitMEX_Wally : We saw a few timeouts on their API but we are getting live prices
[2016-03-13 16:55:09] BitMEX_Wally : If they go completely offline then we will fail over to using Kraken prices
[2016-03-13 16:55:11] trestres : ok tnks
[2016-03-13 16:55:57] Plasma : hey where is BitMex based out of
[2016-03-13 16:56:07] Plasma : cant do business with me cus im from US
[2016-03-13 16:56:11] BitMEX_Wally : Most of us are in Hong Kong
[2016-03-13 16:56:24] Plasma : nice
[2016-03-13 17:04:57] chromaticcr1 : just use a VPN and declare somewhere else lol
[2016-03-13 17:06:22] Plasma : i move to much btc for them not to notice
[2016-03-13 17:13:43] sleger : Plasma: more than 1k ?
[2016-03-13 17:14:49] sleger : and bitmex is a Seychelles company
[2016-03-13 17:15:56] Teddy76 : hey sleger
[2016-03-13 17:16:02] Teddy76 : can i ask you personal question?
[2016-03-13 17:16:05] chromaticcr1 : best way to launder: coins to BTCE, withdraw to BitMEX directly ;)
[2016-03-13 17:16:16] sleger : you can always ask i might not answer
[2016-03-13 17:16:22] Teddy76 : lol ok
[2016-03-13 17:16:49] Teddy76 : how do you do with tax office in France for BTC income?
[2016-03-13 17:17:27] sleger : i am not trading from a french entity
[2016-03-13 17:17:39] Teddy76 : ok
[2016-03-13 17:17:44] sleger : so i do not have anything to report to them, but the income is kept within a company
[2016-03-13 17:17:54] Teddy76 : ok
[2016-03-13 17:17:57] sleger : if I withdraw to my bank account then this becomes a taxable event
[2016-03-13 17:18:06] sleger : which in my case would be a like a divident payment
[2016-03-13 17:18:16] Teddy76 : nice
[2016-03-13 17:18:23] Teddy76 : it's what i'm looking for
[2016-03-13 17:18:37] Teddy76 : where is your company?
[2016-03-13 17:18:44] Teddy76 : Singapore?
[2016-03-13 17:19:05] sleger : uk
[2016-03-13 17:19:18] Teddy76 : thanks ;)
[2016-03-13 17:19:20] sleger : but if you are trading under your name you should declare them as regular income
[2016-03-13 17:19:26] sleger : uk doesnt tax bitcoin gains
[2016-03-13 17:19:52] Teddy76 : euro based account?
[2016-03-13 17:20:36] sleger : thats irrelevant tax wise
[2016-03-13 17:21:45] sleger : btw i made a mistake i said declare as regular income, i meant capital gains obviously
[2016-03-13 17:21:55] sleger : (for france)
[2016-03-13 17:22:58] arbitrage001 : is it easy for foreigner to open a uk bank account?
[2016-03-13 17:23:28] sleger : if you register a company yes
[2016-03-13 17:23:47] sleger : i already had existing relationship with a bank there so it was even easier in my case
[2016-03-13 17:24:09] arbitrage001 : can wire money in and out from abroad?
[2016-03-13 17:24:17] arbitrage001 : internet banking that is
[2016-03-13 17:24:29] sleger : of course, subject to regular banking laws
[2016-03-13 17:24:52] sleger : so if you wire in/out 100k gbp be prepared to answer some questions, but if you provide good answers its not an issue
[2016-03-13 17:27:07] sleger : dependign on where you're from / where you have residence UK is not likely to be the best choice though
[2016-03-13 17:27:34] arbitrage001 : which country is the best choice
[2016-03-13 17:27:38] sleger : look at BVI, Jersey etc
[2016-03-13 17:27:42] arbitrage001 : for bitcoin trading
[2016-03-13 17:27:50] sleger : arbitrage001: i just said, idepends where you're from and where you live
[2016-03-13 17:27:57] arbitrage001 : asia
[2016-03-13 17:28:18] sleger : then i dont really know, but bitmex chose seychelles for example
[2016-03-13 17:28:48] BitMEX_Wally : For regulations and tax, not for banking
[2016-03-13 17:29:10] arbitrage001 : sould like bbitmex choosing seychelees to shield them from potential legal problem
[2016-03-13 17:29:17] BitMEX_Wally : The legal system is French civil code with British procedural rules
[2016-03-13 17:29:20] sleger : and tax
[2016-03-13 17:29:27] arbitrage001 : should there be any problem down the road there is
[2016-03-13 17:29:41] sleger : probably legal + tax reason
[2016-03-13 17:30:04] BitMEX_Wally : Seychelles does not shield us from legal problems
[2016-03-13 17:30:28] sleger : it makes it a lot harder than to sue in HK though ?
[2016-03-13 17:32:00] BitMEX_Wally : It's the same
[2016-03-13 17:35:27] habibi : Dad would not agree with that Wally :p
[2016-03-13 17:41:45] viptrader : hello, is there a calulator for liquedation price
[2016-03-13 17:41:48] viptrader : ?
[2016-03-13 17:42:57] BitMEX_Wally : viptrader: Not yet but we'll add it