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[2016-03-11 15:33:37] arbitrage001 : braggging his 600 btc and 10k eth
[2016-03-11 15:33:50] chromaticcr : good like with this eth
[2016-03-11 15:33:50] arbitrage001 : all on poloniex
[2016-03-11 15:34:18] chromaticcr : A few months ago I have asked about this thing in polo' troll box. No response
[2016-03-11 15:34:19] arbitrage001 : when shit hit the fan, doesnt matter how high eth goes
[2016-03-11 15:35:28] chromaticcr : I saw a bet on fairlay, if default of 5% or morehappens in polo, it pays ~9x
[2016-03-11 15:38:54] chromaticcr : arbitrage001: I will grab a freshdesk ticket to polo and see if we can get some data rgding to lended amt on the system and make them confirm by word on what happens when it defaults
[2016-03-11 15:40:18] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr: let us know the outcome
[2016-03-11 15:40:23] arbitrage001 : on default
[2016-03-11 15:41:51] chromaticcr : well... I guess they wont face (reply) it directly.. but anyways, BitMEX is somewhere that I trust, and has a great capability on issuing CDS with great professionals around
[2016-03-11 16:13:55] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 16:18:11] S410520 : how? lol
[2016-03-11 16:18:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 136 @ 0.01
[2016-03-11 16:24:15] BitMEX_Sam : Looks like a rounding error on the bot re: that price
[2016-03-11 16:24:28] BitMEX_Sam : Should be 0.00531
[2016-03-11 16:25:35] BitMEX_Sam : @micmix You should use `instrument.tickSize`
[2016-03-11 16:36:53] splash : have the friday eth contract settled already today?
[2016-03-11 16:37:27] habibi : splash: try guess :)
[2016-03-11 16:37:40] splash : yes it has
[2016-03-11 16:37:40] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-03-11 16:37:43] splash : cool
[2016-03-11 16:37:53] splash : i kind of thought it had, but i wanted confirmation
[2016-03-11 16:38:05] splash : great to see some factom trading taking place also
[2016-03-11 16:38:41] BitMEX_Sam : splash: In general check the expiry both in the contract details in the sidebar, or in the ticker at the top right
[2016-03-11 16:38:55] BitMEX_Sam : Right now it should say about 6d 19h, which tells you just expired 5h ago
[2016-03-11 16:42:21] splash : thanks
[2016-03-11 16:42:55] splash : ah yes i c it now. how could i have missed it. GUI very good, me that was bad
[2016-03-11 16:51:17] bycag : i sent bitcoin from poloniex here.. and give me error Status: COMPLETE: ERROR
[2016-03-11 16:52:14] elmorte : Doesn't sound good
[2016-03-11 16:52:27] Teddy76 : bycag: ask mod at polo trollbox
[2016-03-11 16:52:30] elmorte : I got COMPLETE: DOUCHEBAG once :/
[2016-03-11 16:52:46] Teddy76 : i had same issue few hours ago
[2016-03-11 16:52:58] elmorte : Glad I'm not the only one :)
[2016-03-11 17:11:45] splash : for real?
[2016-03-11 17:12:46] splash : doucebag?
[2016-03-11 17:13:48] elmorte : Could've been COMPLETE: DB and I was reading too much into it...
[2016-03-11 17:14:15] elmorte : It's friday night....details fuzzy
[2016-03-11 17:14:53] elmorte : HugeRoo: I'd like my 20 minutes back, thanks
[2016-03-11 17:38:17] rapidtrades : great $1.3 premium
[2016-03-11 17:38:23] rapidtrades : too small to sell too big to buy
[2016-03-11 17:38:30] rapidtrades : market's been a joke lately
[2016-03-11 17:38:42] rapidtrades : WHERE'S THE VOLATILITY
[2016-03-11 17:42:16] elmorte : Let it out man
[2016-03-11 17:43:01] elmorte : Didn't BTC jump $10 in the last 36hrs?
[2016-03-11 17:47:24] Teddy76 : wx
[2016-03-11 18:30:21] ProfSims : Hello
[2016-03-11 18:31:03] BitMEX_Sam : Hi ProfSims
[2016-03-11 18:40:53] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: My position is long, in the money and the mark price keeps going up. I have an open short to cover and I have an open long way below in case the price dips, which would almost double my position. Which of these is making my margin increase as the mark price rises?
[2016-03-11 18:42:17] BitMEX_Sam : If you're making money on a non-XBU contract, the profit is withheld until rebalancing, which may explain some of what you're seeing
[2016-03-11 18:42:26] BitMEX_Sam : The close order is 'free', as it would neutralize your position
[2016-03-11 18:42:36] BitMEX_Sam : But the open long is not and consumes margin as long as it is open.
[2016-03-11 18:42:56] BitMEX_Sam : Note that while these open orders technically consume margin, the liquidation engine will cancel them and re-assess before liquidating a position
[2016-03-11 18:52:35] elmorte : Sure about the last part? I got liq'd at the liq. price that was derived with open orders (that would've increased my position). If the orders were cancelled, I assume the liq. price would have dropped (since I was long) and I may have avoided the liq'n.... No need to dig it up, just asking
[2016-03-11 19:01:52] BitMEX_Sam : I'll double-check with Wally, he wrote that part of the code
[2016-03-11 19:15:38] rapidtrades : im so bored right now
[2016-03-11 19:16:09] rapidtrades : if i was a pleb i would trade just to kill the boredom
[2016-03-11 19:16:23] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: It's all good, just went back over the logs. I was liq'd at a price way below the indicated liq'n price so it all adds up
[2016-03-11 19:16:38] BitMEX_Sam : :)
[2016-03-11 19:16:45] elmorte : rapidtrades: it's Friday nite dude
[2016-03-11 19:17:33] elmorte : Glad my misery puts a smile on your face @BitMEX_Sam hehe
[2016-03-11 19:17:53] BitMEX_Sam : Just glad that it's working as advertised
[2016-03-11 19:19:11] elmorte : Same. Was a bit painful to look at properly at the time. Closure is good :)
[2016-03-11 19:23:25] elmorte : How much do I owe you for the shrink session? :)
[2016-03-11 19:40:01] justinlooking : any dpe so far this month?
[2016-03-11 19:44:57] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: About tree fiddy
[2016-03-11 19:45:16] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Last DPE was over two months ago
[2016-03-11 19:45:29] BitMEX_Sam : Rather, just under two months
[2016-03-11 19:46:14] justinlooking : ok, thanks. can i get that info from the api somehow?
[2016-03-11 19:47:00] BitMEX_Sam : Yep - you can see it here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-03-11 19:47:18] BitMEX_Sam : That pulls from https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/settlement?count=100&reverse=true
[2016-03-11 19:56:08] splash : BITMEX_Sam: about the PNL Calculator. An idea would be to make it possible to fill in the profit loss field and then the calc would render the exit price for you.
[2016-03-11 19:56:20] splash : That way you could easily calc where you want ur stoploss
[2016-03-11 19:57:54] splash : it could be like an "advance mode" or something that you have to open up
[2016-03-11 19:59:10] splash : wow look at that eth is moving up just as i thought it would, but im missing out on the action because i lost my position because i forgot that it was friday and contract settlement. ive got to be the best worst trader ever
[2016-03-11 20:01:17] elmorte : The eth market here seems to ignore/lag behind the index...so don't be too hard on yourself and there's still time to catch up
[2016-03-11 20:01:33] justinlooking : sam: thanks
[2016-03-11 20:05:50] splash : elmorte: thanks for the + energy
[2016-03-11 21:02:00] habibi : elmorte: more shorters so mm bot actually keeps orders this way
[2016-03-11 21:21:36] BTCDJS : splash: No. I am the worst trader ever :)
[2016-03-11 21:22:08] habibi : u still here :) so other u not loosing that fast or u refilling ur wallet :D
[2016-03-11 21:22:41] BTCDJS : habibi: you talking to me punk? :)
[2016-03-11 21:23:20] habibi : ;)
[2016-03-11 21:24:01] BTCDJS : I have an endless supply of money to waste
[2016-03-11 21:24:17] BTCDJS : until i learn to make some
[2016-03-11 21:24:41] BTCDJS : I just think of it as learning fees
[2016-03-11 21:27:39] splash : habibi: hello. how r u 2 day?
[2016-03-11 21:29:37] habibi : splash: hey, pretty boring, waiting for eth to make major move before homestead, whatever it goes, let volatility increase
[2016-03-11 21:29:54] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I signed up at oanda and one of their people called me today. When i sign up for a real account i get a free online course.
[2016-03-11 21:48:32] splash : habibi: smart move
[2016-03-11 21:49:04] habibi : expect some bigger dump but will see
[2016-03-11 22:16:57] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: recent trades stucks for me, need refresh to update data
[2016-03-11 22:29:00] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: ok, taking the course is not a bad idea since ur new to fx
[2016-03-11 22:31:02] rapidtrades : oanda's good cos u can trade single units like $1...most retailers only let u have lots of $100 or $1000 dollars...this makes it hard to test different strategies with real money
[2016-03-11 22:35:04] haxmb : Any admins here? :)
[2016-03-11 22:35:09] sleger : since when is 1$ real money ?
[2016-03-11 22:35:57] haxmb : I have a question about rate limits :)
[2016-03-11 22:36:58] rapidtrades : sleger: well well, if it isn't mr Maserati
[2016-03-11 22:37:46] rapidtrades : i think im getting sick, food tastes very different to me
[2016-03-11 22:37:58] rapidtrades : either that or everything's gotten bad at the same time
[2016-03-11 22:38:06] LR3NZ : sheeeeeeeeeeit...
[2016-03-11 22:38:24] LR3NZ : liquidated on factom and then it shoots up.. just another day
[2016-03-11 22:38:32] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: Yeah, any issue?
[2016-03-11 22:46:54] micmix : 30k FCT was added to the book on Polo
[2016-03-11 22:47:23] rapidtrades : micmix: thanks for REKT
[2016-03-11 22:47:56] micmix : rapidtrades: have to fix it for FCT, will do that later today
[2016-03-11 22:48:29] rapidtrades : meh, don't trade that shitcoin
[2016-03-11 22:49:23] micmix : FCT is 99% scam
[2016-03-11 22:49:51] micmix : and they are already exiting
[2016-03-11 22:53:59] habibi : bright future on bitmex then :D
[2016-03-11 22:55:03] micmix : spread on polo on FCT is 4% for 5 btc worth, books are super thin
[2016-03-11 22:55:39] habibi : yep funny to see lower spread here from time to time then on spot
[2016-03-11 22:57:17] rapidtrades : habibi: yah its hilarious
[2016-03-11 23:10:39] micmix : another 20k FCT for sale
[2016-03-11 23:15:18] rapidtrades : does any trade fx futures
[2016-03-11 23:22:03] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: heya Sam
[2016-03-11 23:22:23] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: just wondering, does the Rate Limit apply for order cancels too? :o
[2016-03-11 23:23:37] haxmb : because i would really hate to have my cancels not go through in a dumping or rising market
[2016-03-11 23:23:42] haxmb : because of the rate limit
[2016-03-11 23:30:05] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: Don't worry, we've thought of that
[2016-03-11 23:30:16] BitMEX_Sam : Cancels still count against your limit, but they are never stopped by it
[2016-03-11 23:30:31] BitMEX_Sam : So if you have 150 requests left, and you execute 10 cancels, you have 140 left
[2016-03-11 23:30:43] BitMEX_Sam : But if you have 5 left, and you execute 10 cancels, you have 0 requests left, yet all 10 cancels execute
[2016-03-11 23:31:45] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: ok cheers
[2016-03-11 23:31:58] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: you guys have the right format
[2016-03-11 23:32:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.02661 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 23:32:09] BitMEX_Sam : In general use bulk orders/amends/cancels when you can, it is cheaper on requests
[2016-03-11 23:32:26] haxmb : other exchanges Rate Limit cancels too, which has cost me a lot of $$ in the past
[2016-03-11 23:32:26] BitMEX_Sam : It triggers fewer individual risk checks on our end so we ratelimit them more generously.
[2016-03-11 23:32:48] BitMEX_Sam : Ah that's really awful. We added this exception back in beta after someone got caught out in the trading game
[2016-03-11 23:32:59] BitMEX_Sam : Cancels are incredibly cheap so there's no risk leaving them open.
[2016-03-11 23:33:03] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: great work, cheers
[2016-03-11 23:33:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.02644 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 23:33:10] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: good luck
[2016-03-11 23:33:16] haxmb : (Y)
[2016-03-11 23:33:19] haxmb : :O
[2016-03-11 23:33:50] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: oh and do you guys have MM privileges?
[2016-03-11 23:34:11] BitMEX_Sam : What do you mean?
[2016-03-11 23:34:16] haxmb : friend of mine is looking to maybe provide a lot of liquidity for ETH7D and FCT7D
[2016-03-11 23:34:20] BitMEX_Sam : Ah -
[2016-03-11 23:34:32] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, we offer maker rebates to all users, they're especially beneficial to MMs
[2016-03-11 23:34:48] BitMEX_Sam : We also increase ratelimits for anyone MMing a market at any decent size or spread
[2016-03-11 23:34:55] haxmb : ok, how? :)
[2016-03-11 23:34:57] BitMEX_Sam : Just email us, or have your friend email us - support@bitmex.com
[2016-03-11 23:35:02] haxmb : oh cool
[2016-03-11 23:35:39] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: cheers, will do
[2016-03-11 23:35:48] BitMEX_Sam : :shipit:
[2016-03-12 00:16:47] justinlooking : am tempted to register isbitcoin420.com
[2016-03-12 00:27:11] tscha : lol
[2016-03-12 00:48:59] rapidtrades : im so f*cking bored, thinking about learning some coding
[2016-03-12 00:59:37] tscha : in excel?
[2016-03-12 01:06:31] rapidtrades : maybe, lot of traders are doing basic tests with excel
[2016-03-12 01:07:31] tscha : good luck then
[2016-03-12 01:19:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.01
[2016-03-12 02:20:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1783 @ 0.02907
[2016-03-12 02:32:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 419.85
[2016-03-12 02:33:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1300 @ 419.77
[2016-03-12 02:34:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1072 @ 419.72
[2016-03-12 03:02:43] peasant-wizard : Curious to see ETH7D not much action?
[2016-03-12 03:03:08] peasant-wizard : Considering what's happening on Polo right now
[2016-03-12 03:05:23] peasant-wizard : nvm theres the volume :)
[2016-03-12 03:10:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 86096 @ 418.96 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-03-12 03:10:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 419.14 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-12 03:11:24] pajak666 : ETH will be added to bitfinex
[2016-03-12 03:14:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 22087 @ 415.14 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-03-12 03:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 422 @ 0.03182
[2016-03-12 03:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 25 @ 0.03214
[2016-03-12 03:58:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.03283
[2016-03-12 03:58:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 8223 @ 0.03285
[2016-03-12 04:24:56] j8 : eth market cap $1 billion
[2016-03-12 04:25:06] j8 : that's 2.4 million btc
[2016-03-12 04:26:47] micmix : not bad for a coin that's not supposed to be a store of value. no one even knows how many coins will be issued
[2016-03-12 04:29:08] j8 : yep, it's running on a lot of hype
[2016-03-12 04:31:16] j8 : i made an impulse buy as soon as i saw the e-mail from bitfinex. worked out well
[2016-03-12 04:33:25] micmix : yep, same here, already closed
[2016-03-12 04:35:32] j8 : same. looks like someone knew 3 hours ago
[2016-03-12 04:36:08] micmix : I was buying yesterday but it was before the settlement, stupid me
[2016-03-12 04:39:02] micmix : bought again after settlement but the price was 0.02755 instead of 0.02646
[2016-03-12 04:40:50] j8 : eth is a complete gamble for me. generally want to be short but the timing is tricky
[2016-03-12 04:42:56] micmix : yeah, I had to close my short on Polo with 5 coins loss, still waiting to re-short
[2016-03-12 04:52:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9800 @ 413.58
[2016-03-12 04:54:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 412.66
[2016-03-12 04:54:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9151 @ 412.51
[2016-03-12 04:54:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9569 @ 412.48
[2016-03-12 04:55:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6412 @ 411.68
[2016-03-12 04:55:01] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-03-12 05:04:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 11002 @ 413.00
[2016-03-12 05:05:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 191 @ 412.48
[2016-03-12 05:22:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 5000 @ 411.49
[2016-03-12 05:23:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6001 @ 410.06
[2016-03-12 05:24:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 67 @ 415.03
[2016-03-12 05:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 31 @ 408.88
[2016-03-12 05:41:01] chromaticcr : MOAR REKT PLS
[2016-03-12 05:48:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 30 @ 412.05
[2016-03-12 06:10:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 9 @ 0.03201
[2016-03-12 06:10:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1028 @ 0.03202
[2016-03-12 06:11:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 27 @ 0.03208
[2016-03-12 06:41:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 10000 @ 414.17
[2016-03-12 07:12:07] S410520 : what is Withheld Profit?
[2016-03-12 07:14:19] BitMEX_Wally : S410520: https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq#why-is-my-profit-withheld
[2016-03-12 07:15:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 4012 @ 0.03222
[2016-03-12 07:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.03238 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-12 07:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 669 @ 0.03232
[2016-03-12 07:37:21] S410520 : BitMEX_Wally: alright then
[2016-03-12 07:43:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.03264
[2016-03-12 07:49:20] rapidtrades : lol a new high for eth
[2016-03-12 07:49:51] habibi : yea shocked as well, glad didnt sleep with short. finex is adding so pump is coz of it basically
[2016-03-12 07:50:47] rapidtrades : finex ix adding eth huh
[2016-03-12 07:50:55] rapidtrades : what nuckleheads
[2016-03-12 07:53:27] rapidtrades : and of course btc is down
[2016-03-12 07:58:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.03196
[2016-03-12 08:54:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 175 @ 413.55
[2016-03-12 09:32:29] viptrader : buy ETH here
[2016-03-12 09:34:25] habibi : u will have more influence on polo :)
[2016-03-12 09:34:57] viptrader : buy buy buy
[2016-03-12 09:35:43] micmix : viptrader: you forgot to tell us that we have to buy FCT too
[2016-03-12 09:35:59] viptrader : FCT is shit
[2016-03-12 09:36:02] viptrader : just ETH
[2016-03-12 09:36:07] viptrader : at support level here
[2016-03-12 09:36:46] micmix : ah ok, thanks for the advice. I'll buy after I see your buy for couple hundred ETH :-)
[2016-03-12 09:39:18] micmix : BTW, I fixed the REKT bot, will show FCT correctly. Also it uses websocket now, so it's faster and won't miss any liquidations
[2016-03-12 09:40:08] viptrader : buy buy buy buy
[2016-03-12 09:40:12] habibi : thx micmix
[2016-03-12 09:41:04] chromaticcr : micmix: thx for the REKT service, love it!
[2016-03-12 09:41:31] micmix : chromaticcr: you're welcome!
[2016-03-12 09:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 15 @ 0.03073
[2016-03-12 09:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 28 @ 0.03056
[2016-03-12 09:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 8 @ 0.03064
[2016-03-12 09:43:15] habibi : nice call viptrader
[2016-03-12 09:43:54] donkey : lol
[2016-03-12 09:44:14] chromaticcr : 0.03 is the new floor
[2016-03-12 09:44:27] chromaticcr : get rekt now or never!
[2016-03-12 09:45:02] micmix : we need ETH REKTosaurus :-)
[2016-03-12 09:45:34] micmix : no, take it back, I don't want DPE on ETH
[2016-03-12 09:50:02] haxmb : yeah fuck DPE :O
[2016-03-12 09:51:20] haxmb : <3
[2016-03-12 10:02:51] tscha : gonna be interesting what happens when eth hits finex
[2016-03-12 10:19:45] rocky766 : test
[2016-03-12 10:20:19] chromaticcr : pong!
[2016-03-12 10:20:30] rocky766 : =.=
[2016-03-12 10:57:32] haxmb : tscha: shit's gonna go boom
[2016-03-12 10:57:38] haxmb : up or down, dont care :D
[2016-03-12 10:58:00] haxmb : short that sumb*tch into oblivion
[2016-03-12 12:38:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.03263 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-12 12:41:39] splash : what is eth7d getting its data from? polo?
[2016-03-12 12:42:02] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it comes from polo
[2016-03-12 12:42:27] chromaticcr : and it settles with polo price 2hour time weighted average
[2016-03-12 12:42:41] kingscrown : so seems my march 2019 report of what to buy was 100% correct, everything raised. http://fuk.io/march-2016-report-my-choose-of-best-altcoins-to-invest-into/
[2016-03-12 12:48:18] chromaticcr1 : best "trade", apply for drcred when they are Airdropping, dump it all in the first pump. That's like 1 free Bitcoin for 0 risk.
[2016-03-12 12:48:59] zanza : finex will not have leverage at first, no casino guys sorry!
[2016-03-12 12:51:17] Mangalica : i saw their DRK thing on beta a while ago and came here (and to stakepool) to talk about it.
[2016-03-12 12:51:41] arbitrage001 : finex probably notice a huge outflow of money
[2016-03-12 12:51:50] Mangalica : i figured the were planning to add ETH. Then someone else spotted ETH itself on beta and it was a done deal
[2016-03-12 12:52:00] arbitrage001 : and figured eth is the reason why traders moving money away
[2016-03-12 12:52:32] arbitrage001 : hence they are adding eth/usd pair
[2016-03-12 12:52:36] arbitrage001 : to stop the bleeding
[2016-03-12 12:53:29] Mangalica : so anyway, the rumor went off and then zane announced on reddit that they had no plans to add ETH at all
[2016-03-12 12:54:23] arbitrage001 : zane is a pr person
[2016-03-12 12:54:33] Mangalica : it was surprising but whatever. They waited for me to sell some presale ETH and madeannouncement at 3 am my time
[2016-03-12 12:54:38] Mangalica : lol
[2016-03-12 12:55:11] arbitrage001 : you sold all your eth?
[2016-03-12 12:55:14] Mangalica : nah
[2016-03-12 12:55:23] Mangalica : but i have sold more than originally planned
[2016-03-12 12:55:35] arbitrage001 : i think eth is a bubble
[2016-03-12 12:55:59] arbitrage001 : can probably go higher before it burst
[2016-03-12 12:56:07] arbitrage001 : problem is
[2016-03-12 12:56:19] arbitrage001 : when is a good time to eit
[2016-03-12 12:56:23] arbitrage001 : exit
[2016-03-12 12:56:26] Mangalica : eth has more USD worth added to the float every day than BTC does at this point
[2016-03-12 12:56:34] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-03-12 12:56:53] arbitrage001 : and btc burst many times
[2016-03-12 12:58:20] arbitrage001 : value of a coin has to come from something other than demand
[2016-03-12 12:59:56] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: no response from polo yet....
[2016-03-12 13:00:25] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: interest is sky rocketin
[2016-03-12 13:00:44] arbitrage001 : saw 1.6% like 10 mins ago
[2016-03-12 13:00:50] Mangalica : on BTC?
[2016-03-12 13:01:00] arbitrage001 : Mangalica: yes
[2016-03-12 13:01:08] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: what a fat market order
[2016-03-12 13:01:09] arbitrage001 : so the question is
[2016-03-12 13:01:20] arbitrage001 : why hold eth when you can lend btc
[2016-03-12 13:01:51] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: the questoin is, why trade on polo. Get'em rekt on BitMEX with my ref link bro!
[2016-03-12 13:02:04] Mangalica : i think a lot of people will be bringing back their money in the form of ETH to Finex
[2016-03-12 13:02:16] Mangalica : or plan to
[2016-03-12 13:02:22] Mangalica : which should dampen a crash maybe
[2016-03-12 13:03:02] Mangalica : they went from Bfx to Polo with BTC and will return with ETH if the price keeps up
[2016-03-12 13:03:56] Mangalica : but there is also there is the sell the news (/launch) factor, unless one of the chinese gambling houses announce something as well
[2016-03-12 13:04:25] chromaticcr1 : earning the last dime is costly @Mangalica
[2016-03-12 13:05:01] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: 1% again
[2016-03-12 13:05:12] arbitrage001 : how nice
[2016-03-12 13:05:39] arbitrage001 : all my money stucked on finex withdraw queue
[2016-03-12 13:05:47] Mangalica : someone has been going around borrowing thousands only to put it in a wall WAY down the book
[2016-03-12 13:05:53] chromaticcr1 : finex is quite efficient imho
[2016-03-12 13:05:59] arbitrage001 : i want my 1%
[2016-03-12 13:06:16] Mangalica : i dont know whether the goal is to pop up the book or to make margin longs expensive
[2016-03-12 13:06:29] Mangalica : *prop
[2016-03-12 13:07:37] chromaticcr1 : will attempt to wd all my liquid coins on polo once it goes down below 0.025
[2016-03-12 13:11:45] chromaticcr1 : not worth the risk when casc.MCall happens, we already had a close call at Mar6|14:55
[2016-03-12 13:12:18] chromaticcr1 : 2759->2250 in 10 minutes
[2016-03-12 13:17:26] zanza : i think the ETH spike is just protest against small blocks/Core
[2016-03-12 13:17:55] Mangalica : yeah that's part of it
[2016-03-12 13:19:02] chromaticcr1 : zanza: that's a costly way to protest
[2016-03-12 13:21:06] Mangalica : a lot of people have serious concerns and resorted to buying the ETH lottery ticket a while back
[2016-03-12 13:21:56] Mangalica : then you have the ones that see the volume and think "well it's either gonna be BTC or ETH then" and jump in
[2016-03-12 13:22:05] chromaticcr1 : wait for macros align -> pump. News out-> dump
[2016-03-12 13:22:32] chromaticcr1 : network base is not so easy to manipulate
[2016-03-12 13:25:09] arbitrage001 : eth is even more centralized than btc
[2016-03-12 13:25:14] arbitrage001 : when it comes to decision maing
[2016-03-12 13:25:18] arbitrage001 : making
[2016-03-12 13:25:39] arbitrage001 : so people betting eth replacing btc is making mistake
[2016-03-12 13:25:57] arbitrage001 : gamblers always lose
[2016-03-12 13:41:28] habibi : so other group betting eth will get rekt, will loose as well according to that logic? :p
[2016-03-12 13:42:20] arbitrage001 : habibi: everyone is guessing
[2016-03-12 13:47:11] elmorte : Polo's one confirmation doesn't really mean one confirmation, does it
[2016-03-12 13:47:53] elmorte : Ha, gods are listening!
[2016-03-12 15:13:19] rapidtrades : elmorte: gods of Wreckage maybe
[2016-03-12 15:18:50] BitMEX_Sam : ETH is moody
[2016-03-12 15:31:09] chromaticcr1 : clam before the storm
[2016-03-12 15:33:41] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: how about daily eth??
[2016-03-12 15:36:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 411.42
[2016-03-12 15:37:32] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: i guess what you want is 100x rather than settling every day
[2016-03-12 15:38:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4000 @ 410.91
[2016-03-12 15:38:39] aethlios : chromaticcr1: daily settlement I prefer, works like an option expiring in 24H or less.
[2016-03-12 15:38:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 410.44
[2016-03-12 15:39:16] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: why would you prefer settling instead of having it closed by urself?
[2016-03-12 15:39:45] chromaticcr1 : even as a weekly, eth traces the underlying quite well imho
[2016-03-12 15:42:34] aethlios : chromaticcr1: because you can't close a big position easily. if I am long now 250 on 7D is difficult to close it, but if it expires in 2 hours is better. daily expiration works like a stop loss.
[2016-03-12 15:45:39] sleger : wow some people have no idea what an option is or even a stop loss
[2016-03-12 16:02:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 408.15
[2016-03-12 16:05:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 750 @ 413.52
[2016-03-12 17:04:21] zanza : https://twitter.com/bitcoin_comics/status/708544270966267904
[2016-03-12 17:15:55] laisee : zanza: games over. bitcoin lost.
[2016-03-12 17:46:45] 31133113 : hi
[2016-03-12 17:50:13] 31133113 : laisee: this ETH silliness will be hilarious when BTC surpasses 10k and ETH is still 8-9 dollars
[2016-03-12 18:01:20] rapidtrades : 31133113: did u make ur account when eth was 0.031133113?
[2016-03-12 18:01:43] rapidtrades : it's now 0.03256, sour grapes b1tch
[2016-03-12 18:08:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 477 @ 0.03273
[2016-03-12 18:18:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 298 @ 0.00633
[2016-03-12 18:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1363 @ 0.03275
[2016-03-12 18:51:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 28 @ 0.03223
[2016-03-12 19:35:31] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: what would happen in u would catch a really bottom at mark price@eth - start liquidation and then price would go up above profit point, would u auto adjust to that point to take actual profit from liquidation?
[2016-03-12 19:37:29] habibi : nothing wrong about it, just asking :)
[2016-03-12 20:40:35] splash : hi habibi
[2016-03-12 20:41:04] splash : whats upp?
[2016-03-12 21:08:49] viptrader : buy buy buy ETH
[2016-03-12 21:20:07] rapidtrades : ^this fecking guy...
[2016-03-12 21:25:58] splash : yea that eth was going up was kind of no brainer
[2016-03-12 21:26:28] splash : odds of btc going down at least 10% also at least 75% probability so no wonder we got a retrace here
[2016-03-12 21:27:19] splash : check the chat logs n c that im not making things up
[2016-03-12 21:27:49] splash : to bad im only loosing money
[2016-03-12 21:28:07] splash : dont get it
[2016-03-12 21:28:31] splash : i say one thing on the chat and do the other thing on the trades
[2016-03-12 21:44:05] viptrader : BUY BUY BUY ETH
[2016-03-12 22:14:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 298 @ 0.03287
[2016-03-12 22:22:56] rapidtrades : u know before this latest surge we had some intelligent discussion about eth here...
[2016-03-12 22:23:15] rapidtrades : that guy jung would post reasonable reasons why eth is a good coin...
[2016-03-12 22:23:25] rapidtrades : NOW we have this tool spamming BUY BUY BUY
[2016-03-12 22:32:22] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: BUY BUY BUY BTC
[2016-03-12 22:33:04] BTCDJS : MINE MINE MINE ETH
[2016-03-12 23:47:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 640 @ 0.03289
[2016-03-13 00:08:46] Bauer : Hi! Any admins/mods here to help with a problem?
[2016-03-13 00:09:47] Bauer : Sorry, never mind. Seems that it sorted it self out =)
[2016-03-13 00:30:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 6484 @ 0.03329
[2016-03-13 00:30:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.00569
[2016-03-13 00:31:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 6000 @ 0.00565
[2016-03-13 00:32:26] Mangalica : new ATH...
[2016-03-13 00:32:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 7 @ 0.03363
[2016-03-13 00:33:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.03377
[2016-03-13 00:40:52] rapidtrades : anyone logged in polo right now?
[2016-03-13 00:44:26] mrnet : no
[2016-03-13 00:57:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 60 @ 0.03464
[2016-03-13 00:59:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1743 @ 0.03475
[2016-03-13 00:59:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 70 @ 0.03475
[2016-03-13 01:05:26] rapidtrades : 0.034 gentlemen...we've hit a new milestone for this shitcoin
[2016-03-13 01:06:28] rapidtrades : $ 1,087,318,413 market cap
[2016-03-13 01:06:31] rapidtrades : cos why not
[2016-03-13 01:07:02] rapidtrades : a cool billion for a coin that's not accepted anymore but exchanges...to sell to other fools
[2016-03-13 01:07:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 350 @ 0.03465
[2016-03-13 01:08:58] rapidtrades : god bless America
[2016-03-13 01:09:01] rapidtrades : and no place else
[2016-03-13 01:49:21] elmorte : Shouldn't have gone to sleep with a short, heh
[2016-03-13 02:21:56] peasant-wizard : Where can I see the profit or loss of my last trade? I see CashSettlement in Wallet and Trade History...
[2016-03-13 02:28:05] rapidtrades : trade history
[2016-03-13 02:30:38] rapidtrades : what's the current lending rate for btc on polo?
[2016-03-13 02:32:56] j8 : rapidtrades: 0.3% or so
[2016-03-13 02:41:28] viptrader : sell sell sell ETH
[2016-03-13 03:03:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 868 @ 0.03514
[2016-03-13 03:32:18] 31133113 : hi, in the Recent Trades how come some trades are in black?
[2016-03-13 03:32:51] 31133113 : rapidtrades: 0.3%
[2016-03-13 03:33:27] BitMEX_Wally : 31133113: Black means the price stayed the same
[2016-03-13 04:02:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1600 @ 0.03544
[2016-03-13 04:12:38] 31133113 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2016-03-13 05:29:24] neodmt : Hello can someone let me know if you can loan btc on bitmex?
[2016-03-13 05:34:40] j8 : neodmt: you can't, although occasionally we have people begging for loans in the trollbox
[2016-03-13 05:39:04] gaoMex : Would like to earn basis between XBT Mar and Jun contracts
[2016-03-13 05:39:33] gaoMex : can the appropriate MM please update the books?
[2016-03-13 05:59:34] gaoMex : Can the spread be tigther?
[2016-03-13 06:00:06] gaoMex : There isn't any basis to earn if the spread is so wide
[2016-03-13 06:34:23] chromaticcr : lol
[2016-03-13 09:06:17] BitcoinLIFE : Guys how does ETH margin work? Why does it say 'Every Friday' am I not allowed to open a position today?
[2016-03-13 09:10:56] BitcoinLIFE : I can't deposit ETH?
[2016-03-13 09:11:08] BitcoinLIFE : How do people sell ETH then? What........
[2016-03-13 09:18:55] BitMEX_Arthur : BitcoinLIFE: you only need Bitcoin
[2016-03-13 09:19:10] BitMEX_Arthur : deposit some Bitcoin then sell ETH7D
[2016-03-13 09:19:22] BitMEX_Arthur : you profit will be in Bitcoin as well
[2016-03-13 09:20:12] BitMEX_Arthur : you can open a position today but it will expire and settle on Friday
[2016-03-13 09:22:45] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: I wouldn't be able to close position earlier?
[2016-03-13 09:34:26] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: Nor am I able to deposit ETH at all?
[2016-03-13 09:35:10] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: Can I know if there are any changes coming in regards the all the points I brought up tomorrow being Homestead release?
[2016-03-13 09:41:20] Mangalica : of course you can close any time
[2016-03-13 09:43:28] BitcoinLIFE : Mangalica: Will I also take my loss or profit along with the close on the position? Or is it a case of, if I close the position prior to Friday then I wont earn the profit.
[2016-03-13 09:45:47] Mangalica : Yes your p&l will materialize when you close it. You might not be able to withdraw all of your profit before Friday's settlement but that's all.
[2016-03-13 09:47:10] Mangalica : Say you made 5 BTC profit, it will appear in your account as such, but you might only be able to withdraw 2 BTC of it during the week and 3 BTC (all of it) after settlement.
[2016-03-13 09:51:33] Mangalica : Settlement basically unwinds all positions and brings the books to 0. No more floating p&l.
[2016-03-13 09:53:24] BitcoinLIFE : Mangalica: Beautiful (y). My last question is, by your experience, how long does it take for BTC to show up in my wallet here?
[2016-03-13 09:54:42] Mangalica : 1 confirmation (~10 minutes)
[2016-03-13 09:55:01] Mangalica : 10 mins on average, anyway
[2016-03-13 10:04:42] BitcoinLIFE : Mangalica: (Y) Amazing. Thank you for everything! Bless
[2016-03-13 10:19:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 10000 @ 414.56
[2016-03-13 11:42:04] rapidtrades : good mornong fellas
[2016-03-13 11:42:12] chromaticcr1 : yo
[2016-03-13 11:48:57] chromaticcr1 : rapidtrades: you wake up on time everyday for the settlement?
[2016-03-13 11:49:24] rapidtrades : i try
[2016-03-13 11:50:30] chromaticcr1 : rapidtrades: i would have fallen asleep by now...
[2016-03-13 11:54:45] rapidtrades : settlement has been shit since the roll got introduced
[2016-03-13 11:56:12] chromaticcr1 : coz no one is "locking in" their p&l
[2016-03-13 11:56:41] habibi : noone playing here on btc anymore kinda, a bit bots wars only
[2016-03-13 11:56:58] chromaticcr1 : depth = 15
[2016-03-13 11:57:25] chromaticcr1 : FINALLY!
[2016-03-13 11:57:33] rapidtrades : only 20k contract to close...and 15 just went out
[2016-03-13 12:05:44] chromaticcr1 : the 15k wasn't a close vs close
[2016-03-13 12:06:25] chromaticcr1 : it was just changing hands
[2016-03-13 12:08:52] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: yeah didn't think smone would be that stupid
[2016-03-13 12:09:51] chromaticcr1 : we need more stupid people and poor risk managment ppl around
[2016-03-13 12:10:47] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: doesn't always help, just look at eth
[2016-03-13 12:12:34] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: i have hidden order, then someone post at same price order, i close order by X on orderbook and the X still remains there even order is closed
[2016-03-13 12:13:19] BitMEX_Wally : Sounds like a bug, if the order is not in Active Orders then it is canceled
[2016-03-13 12:14:31] habibi : yep, order is canceled, clicking x resumes with simple no order found information, anyway it updated now and its good
[2016-03-13 12:14:59] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, I have recreated
[2016-03-13 12:15:02] BitMEX_Wally : Will get Sam to fix
[2016-03-13 12:16:37] BitMEX_Wally : Displaying hidden orders in the order book is tricky at best
[2016-03-13 12:17:04] BitMEX_Wally : It kind of works if there is another order, but we should probably disable it until we come up with a proper solution
[2016-03-13 12:17:42] BitMEX_Wally : Thanks for letting us know
[2016-03-13 12:22:48] chromaticcr1 : polo's rate is going down, madness over?
[2016-03-13 12:25:48] Mangalica : almost 4.5k BTC available to borrow
[2016-03-13 12:26:07] Mangalica : highest ever i've seen
[2016-03-13 12:27:24] chromaticcr1 : good luck with those coins
[2016-03-13 12:32:17] rapidtrades : whatts the rate yo
[2016-03-13 12:36:12] Mangalica : 0.23 ish
[2016-03-13 12:36:32] elmorte : https://poloniex.com/lending#BTC Don't have to be logged in
[2016-03-13 13:27:49] rapidtrades : now down to 0.2%, dropping pretty fast
[2016-03-13 13:30:11] rapidtrades : large dis-balance, they'll prolly keep falling
[2016-03-13 13:48:08] NukeLaloosh : rapidtrades: i've watched polo's rate fluctuate a good bit, even had fills at 1% and 2%. I've some out right now at 0.4%. Wouldn't say the party is over quite yet
[2016-03-13 13:58:42] Plasma : @NukeLaloosh , what the end game?
[2016-03-13 14:04:38] NukeLaloosh : ha! if i only knew. ask the smart guys...
[2016-03-13 14:24:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 25 @ 413.01
[2016-03-13 14:32:15] arbitrage001 : is finex down?
[2016-03-13 14:35:06] aethlios : arbitrage001: no
[2016-03-13 14:35:59] arbitrage001 : having trouble loading the site
[2016-03-13 14:38:36] eth2mars : guys, i just registered. any chart available? can't locate
[2016-03-13 14:53:01] habibi : hard to miss chart on new ui
[2016-03-13 15:02:34] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: got response!
[2016-03-13 15:03:38] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: what did they say
[2016-03-13 15:04:33] chromaticcr1 : Hereyou go
[2016-03-13 15:04:34] chromaticcr1 : http://imgur.com/5def67t
[2016-03-13 15:04:43] chromaticcr1 : Bunch-a-crap? i guess
[2016-03-13 15:08:04] chromaticcr1 : What do you think? Time for black swan?
[2016-03-13 15:09:51] arbitrage001 : even bitfinex experience a few major cascading margin call with 4 to 1 leverage
[2016-03-13 15:10:10] arbitrage001 : what leverage polo give?
[2016-03-13 15:11:19] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: are you able to login finex? have been trying for the last 2 hours
[2016-03-13 15:12:03] chromaticcr1 : maint of polo: 20% (acc bust when 5x leveraged) maint of finex: 15% (=6.66x)
[2016-03-13 15:13:04] chromaticcr1 : A-OK
[2016-03-13 15:13:19] chromaticcr1 : response time ~10 seconds
[2016-03-13 15:17:28] rapidtrades : finex works fine here...but not gonna try to relogin :)
[2016-03-13 15:38:33] rapidtrades : ETA for ETH on finex?
[2016-03-13 15:38:47] habibi : 7 hours, 22 minutes or sth like that?
[2016-03-13 15:39:04] habibi : 8 hours 22 minutes, sorry
[2016-03-13 15:39:08] habibi : utc midnight
[2016-03-13 15:39:50] rapidtrades : so that's when btc lending rates will spike huh
[2016-03-13 15:41:04] rapidtrades : can I take btc loans now and offer them tonight to fomo-ers?
[2016-03-13 15:41:23] rapidtrades : I'm guessing that btc can't be lend out
[2016-03-13 15:41:39] habibi : margin trading will be online in next few days as a market will get liquid according to news
[2016-03-13 15:42:11] rapidtrades : but btc is already online so...
[2016-03-13 15:42:28] rapidtrades : and u need btc o buy eth no?
[2016-03-13 15:42:42] elmorte : It's in the finex announcement, there will be no margin trading immediately
[2016-03-13 15:42:53] rapidtrades : k
[2016-03-13 15:42:53] elmorte : Only after a few days as @habibi said
[2016-03-13 15:42:56] rapidtrades : k
[2016-03-13 15:43:04] rapidtrades : party pooper
[2016-03-13 15:43:35] elmorte : But I guess you could lend it out now :)
[2016-03-13 15:44:55] elmorte : btc-e still down...would be interesting if they've added ETH when they come back
[2016-03-13 15:45:55] rapidtrades : elmorte: wtf i didn't even notice that
[2016-03-13 15:46:03] rapidtrades : that unreliable pos
[2016-03-13 15:46:16] elmorte : It's been a few hrs already
[2016-03-13 15:46:34] habibi : around 10
[2016-03-13 15:46:38] elmorte : I emptied out my account exactly 24 hrs ago
[2016-03-13 15:46:40] habibi : 10 hours*
[2016-03-13 15:47:06] rapidtrades : well that's not good
[2016-03-13 15:53:11] rapidtrades : a lot of my short exposure is on there too...so if they don't come back and we crash, it wont be pretty
[2016-03-13 16:27:14] kingscrown : free money guide https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/709052816682303488
[2016-03-13 16:30:34] rapidtrades : u spammer...90% of ur twitter is affiliate links
[2016-03-13 16:31:04] rapidtrades : the only thing free in this world is ur momma's herpes