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[2016-03-10 22:38:41] rapidtrades : all with real money huh
[2016-03-10 22:38:49] BTCDJS : yep small amounts
[2016-03-10 22:39:25] BTCDJS : 0.03 - 0.05 - 0.1
[2016-03-10 22:39:31] BTCDJS : BTC
[2016-03-10 22:39:59] rapidtrades : that doesn't mean anything to me...is that lot size or what
[2016-03-10 22:40:09] rapidtrades : 0.1 so 10k or
[2016-03-10 22:41:01] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: btw btc-e also has a metatrader demo, so u don't have to waste real money here too
[2016-03-10 22:41:22] thehawthorne : http://i.imgur.com/PwyHcMz.png
[2016-03-10 22:41:33] BTCDJS : thats how much i put in. it varies from 5x for BTC to 100X or 200X on forex pairs and 20X for commodities
[2016-03-10 22:42:12] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: 0.03 is a lot size right
[2016-03-10 22:42:22] rapidtrades : ur position size?
[2016-03-10 22:43:13] habibi : thehawthorne: so price is pretty close to ur buyzone right?
[2016-03-10 22:43:26] rapidtrades : Why are u wasting money, you don't know the platform, u don't know ur size, u don't have a method for trading
[2016-03-10 22:43:55] rapidtrades : at least get some basics down...real money at this point is useless
[2016-03-10 22:44:25] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: cos I'm learning. Ill only take it seriously if i lose real money
[2016-03-10 22:45:22] thehawthorne : habibi: selling now. not feeling well about eth. guess it will drop at/after weekend and im out trading friday - sunday evening
[2016-03-10 22:45:36] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: and I'm not really losing a lot. I'm losing here and winning there
[2016-03-11 01:50:33] mdrn : no more rekt bot?
[2016-03-11 01:56:11] micmix : mdrn: REKT bot works, no liquidations in the past few hours
[2016-03-11 02:58:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.02591
[2016-03-11 02:58:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 600 @ 0.02585
[2016-03-11 04:14:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 2 @ 418.23 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 04:17:44] bycag : add factom here ?
[2016-03-11 04:19:30] bycag : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850070.msg14159737#msg14159737
[2016-03-11 04:27:58] BitMEX_Wally : bycag: Sure
[2016-03-11 04:28:19] BitMEX_Wally : Give us 8 hours and we'll launch a Factom contract for you
[2016-03-11 04:28:32] bycag : very nice!
[2016-03-11 04:32:02] BitMEX_Wally : It will list at 12:00 UTC (in 7.5 hours time): https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/FCT7D
[2016-03-11 04:32:40] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: would be nice to have it a week ago :-)
[2016-03-11 04:32:47] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: You should have lobbied us
[2016-03-11 04:34:18] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: yep, totally my fault. can I lobby for miadsafe now? big volatility ahead IMHO
[2016-03-11 04:34:30] micmix : *maidsafe
[2016-03-11 04:36:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 10 @ 419.08
[2016-03-11 04:37:06] micmix : IMHO all major alts available on Polo margin will be pumped and dumped multiple times
[2016-03-11 04:42:54] micmix : it's like 2014 all over again :-)
[2016-03-11 04:54:28] BitMEX_Wally : Can you market make the contract?
[2016-03-11 04:55:54] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: unfortunately I can't :-(
[2016-03-11 05:00:06] BitMEX_Wally : Someone from another exchange was asking us how we manage launch new products so quickly
[2016-03-11 05:00:13] BitMEX_Wally : They have over 50 engineers
[2016-03-11 05:00:22] BitMEX_Wally : We have 2
[2016-03-11 05:02:28] micmix : 50 engineers and they can't come up with a system that allows to add contracts quickly? that's funny. but you guys are top notch, best exchange technology-wise for sure
[2016-03-11 05:03:51] micmix : maybe you can sell your trading engine to those guys
[2016-03-11 05:04:44] micmix : or better yet, offer trading engine as a service like alphapoint guys
[2016-03-11 05:05:46] BitMEX_Wally : We've been in discussion with a few exchanges about licensing our technology, or just running the trading engine for them
[2016-03-11 05:06:57] micmix : that's very cool, many trading engines on other exchanges are really bad
[2016-03-11 05:22:08] ikhouvandebloemen : hi
[2016-03-11 05:22:41] ikhouvandebloemen : so you are opening a Factom market soon?
[2016-03-11 05:24:49] ikhouvandebloemen : found it above!
[2016-03-11 05:25:56] BitMEX_Wally : ikhouvandebloemen: Yes, let us know if you have any questions :)
[2016-03-11 05:43:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2000 @ 0.02476
[2016-03-11 05:46:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 80 @ 420.71
[2016-03-11 05:56:52] ikhouvandebloemen : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, what leverage will factom be?
[2016-03-11 05:57:01] BitMEX_Arthur : 10x
[2016-03-11 05:57:29] kb1985 : So what is happening to ETH?
[2016-03-11 05:57:42] BitMEX_Arthur : kb1985: Nothing we will have ETH and FCT futures
[2016-03-11 05:58:19] kb1985 : BitMEX_Arthur: Oh, sorry, that was just general question to the public, just woke up and was wondering about the price. :D
[2016-03-11 06:00:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1060 @ 0.02459
[2016-03-11 06:00:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.02458
[2016-03-11 06:00:23] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-03-11 06:04:12] ikhouvandebloemen : isn't 10x too high for this market now?
[2016-03-11 06:04:33] BitMEX_Arthur : We don't feel it is, but we will see how it goes
[2016-03-11 06:04:48] BitMEX_Arthur : The spot market is relatively liquid for an altcoin and spreads aren't that wide
[2016-03-11 06:07:09] ikhouvandebloemen : yet the volume just started http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/factom/#charts
[2016-03-11 06:07:22] ikhouvandebloemen : and the market cap. is low
[2016-03-11 06:07:55] BitMEX_Arthur : 10x is the maximum leverage, you are free to use less
[2016-03-11 06:08:22] ikhouvandebloemen : ah
[2016-03-11 06:15:03] ikhouvandebloemen : thanks
[2016-03-11 06:30:16] MM1555 : hello
[2016-03-11 06:30:29] MM1555 : will you have a FCT market here by 12 GMT
[2016-03-11 06:30:35] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes
[2016-03-11 06:30:41] BitMEX_Arthur : 10x leverage
[2016-03-11 06:30:57] MM1555 : I know, but will there be enough FCT there
[2016-03-11 06:31:19] BitMEX_Arthur : Everything is done in Bitcoin, you don't need Factom to trade FCT7D
[2016-03-11 06:31:33] MM1555 : pls elaborate
[2016-03-11 06:31:39] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/FCT
[2016-03-11 06:31:49] BitMEX_Arthur : Please read this it will help answer your questions about how to trade
[2016-03-11 06:32:47] MM1555 : how do I know you will be able to payout, you only fill orders when you can hedge them against one another?
[2016-03-11 06:33:03] BitMEX_Arthur : It is long vs short, we are not the counterparty
[2016-03-11 06:33:11] BitMEX_Arthur : You trade against other users
[2016-03-11 06:33:20] BitMEX_Arthur : for every long there is a short
[2016-03-11 06:33:52] MM1555 : will you create the market at 12 GMT?
[2016-03-11 06:34:07] MM1555 : I mean, will you set up a bunch of longs and shorts both ways to kick it off
[2016-03-11 06:34:08] BitMEX_Arthur : Traders will start posting buy and sell orders at 12 GMT
[2016-03-11 06:34:20] BitMEX_Arthur : We have market makers who will be present
[2016-03-11 06:34:26] MM1555 : k
[2016-03-11 06:34:29] MM1555 : whats ur volume here
[2016-03-11 06:34:53] MM1555 : I dont know much about bitmex I just signed up
[2016-03-11 06:35:15] BitMEX_Arthur : It depends, for altcoins like ETH we do 1k-4k Bitcoin per day in volume
[2016-03-11 06:35:25] BitMEX_Arthur : But our market makers can handle much larger volume
[2016-03-11 06:35:39] BitMEX_Arthur : depends on the volatility of the product and how much other traders want to trade
[2016-03-11 06:36:15] BitMEX_Arthur : when Bitcoin is moving a lot our daily Bitcoin / USD futures contract `XBT24H` trades 5k-10k Bitcoin per day
[2016-03-11 06:36:46] BitMEX_Arthur : You can query historical volume through the API
[2016-03-11 06:37:02] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiOverview
[2016-03-11 06:38:32] MM1555 : so when I open a long on FCT, my long doesn't affect market price at all?
[2016-03-11 06:39:09] BitMEX_Arthur : No it doesn't, it is a bet vs. another user
[2016-03-11 06:39:29] BitMEX_Arthur : Market makers will hedge so yes if there is a lot of buying pressure the market makers will sell and then have to buy spot FCT
[2016-03-11 06:39:35] BitMEX_Arthur : which will increase the price
[2016-03-11 06:39:54] BitMEX_Arthur : but that's a secondary effect, which is why you will see futures trade a premium or discount to the underlying coin
[2016-03-11 07:34:53] bycag : It's a 7 day contract. Unless i'm missing something and you can sell your position at any time?
[2016-03-11 07:36:46] elmorte : Of course you can
[2016-03-11 07:38:21] elmorte : You can settle your position, reverse it...double it...
[2016-03-11 07:39:00] bycag : i deposit 1 btc, and use 10x leverage, how pay on 24h for rent 9 btc ?
[2016-03-11 07:39:29] elmorte : There is not rent or lending here
[2016-03-11 07:40:18] bycag : hmm
[2016-03-11 07:41:06] elmorte : You get 10x leverage because it is presumed that your position will not make a loss of 1BTC
[2016-03-11 07:41:14] elmorte : If it does, well, you lose it
[2016-03-11 07:41:47] elmorte : Pay attention to the margin required when placing an order. That will determine your max leverage and liquidation price
[2016-03-11 07:43:21] bycag : I understand, thank you ;D
[2016-03-11 07:48:10] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Arthur: re the 2-hour time-weighted average price of BTC_ETH on Poloniex, .ETHXBT2H, used for settlement—the weighting is on the volume at each minute?
[2016-03-11 07:50:17] j8 : NukeLaloosh: time weighted but not volume weighted. each minute is equally weighted
[2016-03-11 07:51:08] NukeLaloosh : the past 120 minutes are each equally weighted? so in a falling market the settlement price will be above spot, and vice-versa
[2016-03-11 07:51:14] j8 : yes
[2016-03-11 07:52:06] NukeLaloosh : thanks j8. are you an admin/dev here?
[2016-03-11 07:52:11] j8 : nope just a trader
[2016-03-11 07:54:23] BitMEX_Arthur : j8: A very knowledgable trader, he is spot on in his answers
[2016-03-11 07:54:37] j8 : cheers arthur
[2016-03-11 08:07:29] elmorte : /r/ethtrader is so cringeworthy...I imagine bitcoin forums were like that back in the day
[2016-03-11 08:07:53] habibi : tons of new people aka bagholders as some point
[2016-03-11 08:09:33] micmix : I don't think bitcoin forums are that much better :-)
[2016-03-11 08:10:55] elmorte : I think bitcoiners are a tad more jaded now...these eth posts are really clutching at straws
[2016-03-11 08:12:30] elmorte : But yeah, shades of same thing...BTC vs fiat & banks while ETH vs BTC
[2016-03-11 08:13:03] elmorte : Now, who's gonna take on ETH? @jung1 probably knows :)
[2016-03-11 08:17:39] chromaticcr : thanks okcrap
[2016-03-11 08:17:50] chromaticcr : what a great start on June contract
[2016-03-11 08:18:19] elmorte : Oh, so that's what happened
[2016-03-11 08:24:12] rapidtrades : hmmm 438? doesn't seem like a lot
[2016-03-11 08:25:29] rapidtrades : prolly not worth it to roll my short
[2016-03-11 08:32:03] chromaticcr : that is 0.035% per day
[2016-03-11 08:32:47] BitMEX_Arthur : Prob get better on finex
[2016-03-11 08:39:05] chromaticcr : eh. and you wont get chopped by the all mighty woodchipper and it's clawbacks
[2016-03-11 08:59:04] j8 : i longed it in the first few minutes.
[2016-03-11 08:59:54] chromaticcr : nice, closed it?
[2016-03-11 09:00:34] j8 : some but i think it could go higher
[2016-03-11 09:01:19] j8 : short the march 25 contract in the meantime
[2016-03-11 09:01:46] chromaticcr : 426.21*100+434.87*201 closed all of them at 440
[2016-03-11 09:02:28] j8 : ha 426, i wasn't that fast
[2016-03-11 09:02:30] chromaticcr : 434.87x201 didnt hedged
[2016-03-11 09:02:36] rapidtrades : when did that one list? chart says flat until 9:08
[2016-03-11 09:03:05] chromaticcr : everytime new cont lists at 10th meniute after settle
[2016-03-11 09:03:22] rapidtrades : ah ok didn't know that
[2016-03-11 10:58:23] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: hey, could u make hidden orders display somehow on orderbook for user that place them?
[2016-03-11 11:00:09] ikhouvandebloemen : what url to see fact market?
[2016-03-11 11:00:10] ikhouvandebloemen : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBT24H
[2016-03-11 11:00:12] ikhouvandebloemen : like this but?
[2016-03-11 11:01:12] habibi : wait 1 hour and it will be next to eth tab probally
[2016-03-11 11:01:26] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/FCT7D
[2016-03-11 11:09:58] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: If there is another order at that price level then we can show your hidden order in your own order book
[2016-03-11 11:10:43] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: But if there is no order at that price level then you have to use Orderbook Grouping
[2016-03-11 11:10:59] habibi : yes, i would find it good if it would show as well even there would be no another order with little letter H on it or sth, just an idea anyway
[2016-03-11 11:16:20] BitMEX_Sam : You can see the specification for the Factom contract here : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/FCT7D
[2016-03-11 11:20:47] micmix : stupid me, didn't look at the time and bought ETH7D during settlement period :-)
[2016-03-11 11:25:00] habibi : 2647/46 ;p? small loss anyway :)
[2016-03-11 11:26:05] micmix : yeah, realized after buying 200
[2016-03-11 11:27:49] micmix : guess it's time to get some sleep :-)
[2016-03-11 11:35:15] rapidtrades : my hair looks great today
[2016-03-11 11:35:42] BitMEX_Sam : Sure does
[2016-03-11 11:36:36] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-03-11 11:55:45] j8 : time to close your stuff, yo
[2016-03-11 11:57:28] rapidtrades : j8: no u
[2016-03-11 11:57:45] j8 : trying
[2016-03-11 11:58:15] rapidtrades : we're in a but of a stalemate here huh
[2016-03-11 12:01:32] BitMEX_Sam : FCT7D (Factom) is live.
[2016-03-11 12:01:41] haxmb : nice
[2016-03-11 12:04:43] splash : Great
[2016-03-11 12:07:38] NukeLaloosh : are we in the new ETH7D now?
[2016-03-11 12:09:52] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: Yes, it has been re-listed
[2016-03-11 12:41:15] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: Awesome
[2016-03-11 12:41:58] jung1 : fct will be huge
[2016-03-11 12:42:26] jung1 : told ya
[2016-03-11 12:43:03] BitMEX_Sam : :)
[2016-03-11 12:45:14] APPLmusic : FCT
[2016-03-11 12:45:18] APPLmusic : ftW?\
[2016-03-11 12:45:32] jung1 : APPLmusic: factom
[2016-03-11 12:47:24] jung1 : APPLmusic: 4mln will be ever created. japan
[2016-03-11 12:47:47] jung1 : japan gov already interested in
[2016-03-11 12:48:38] sleger : alright so thi sis becoming the polo alt excha
[2016-03-11 12:48:55] sleger : plus broken trollbox apparently
[2016-03-11 12:50:56] chromaticcr : lol wtf
[2016-03-11 12:51:17] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: Aware of the issue, pushing a fix mo
[2016-03-11 12:51:46] j8 : lol
[2016-03-11 12:51:55] BitMEX_Sam : Yikes.
[2016-03-11 12:54:01] rapidtrades : test
[2016-03-11 12:54:08] BitMEX_Sam : Issue is with longer msgs
[2016-03-11 12:54:20] BitMEX_Sam : Fix is rolling right now
[2016-03-11 12:57:12] BitMEX_Sam : I apologize for the trollbox disruption - if you are having issues, they are now cleared up on a refresh
[2016-03-11 12:59:53] elmorte : Welcome back @BitMEX_Sam :)
[2016-03-11 13:00:13] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks elmorte
[2016-03-11 13:01:13] tscha : I also have a problem with the trollbox. Sometimes (like now) I can't minimize it, and sometimes when it's minimized, I can't re-open it
[2016-03-11 13:01:14] elmorte : Felt bad bugging Wally with all the small tech things
[2016-03-11 13:01:21] tscha : the little down arrow just doesn't do anything
[2016-03-11 13:01:28] elmorte : Tscha, same and only on some PCs
[2016-03-11 13:01:38] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Any way to make it happen repeatedly?
[2016-03-11 13:01:41] elmorte : Something to do with cookies I think
[2016-03-11 13:01:47] tscha : tried refreshing, restarting browser etc....only happens on chrome, not with firefox
[2016-03-11 13:01:50] elmorte : As the position is stored locally
[2016-03-11 13:01:57] elmorte : Yup, chrome here too
[2016-03-11 13:02:19] elmorte : Sometimes only double click works...sometimes a single is enough
[2016-03-11 13:02:35] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. I'll keep an eye on it. I usually use Chrome as well
[2016-03-11 13:03:16] tscha : can't control it unfortunately @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-03-11 13:03:49] rapidtrades : hello im here okay
[2016-03-11 13:03:52] chromaticcr : The small arrow doesnt really work for me, I double click to toggle trollbox anyway
[2016-03-11 13:03:56] tscha : just was able to minimize it with the ~10th click, re-open took like 1 minute.. completely random
[2016-03-11 13:04:04] rapidtrades : helloooooooooooooooooo how looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong does it have to beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to trigger
[2016-03-11 13:04:15] rapidtrades : i think its fixed
[2016-03-11 13:04:18] BitMEX_Sam : It's fixed
[2016-03-11 13:11:55] jung1 : FCT destroy trollbox couse its serious instrument
[2016-03-11 13:12:25] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: add xrp gateway here for banks and finacial institutions
[2016-03-11 13:13:59] jung1 : slock.it will open energy market based on eth
[2016-03-11 13:14:06] jung1 : cant wait for next ENRON
[2016-03-11 13:21:20] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: did you notice the eth long yesterday? Just bulldozed thru the market. Were those UI or API orders?
[2016-03-11 13:21:31] elmorte : About 23 hrs ago
[2016-03-11 13:22:24] elmorte : If you can't comment, blink twice for API
[2016-03-11 13:23:04] diggy : hey, are you still processing withdrawals. I'm waiting for mine
[2016-03-11 13:29:11] diggy : got it, nvm ;)
[2016-03-11 13:29:30] jung1 : so deposit it and buy fct
[2016-03-11 13:29:47] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: I can't really say, except to echo Wally's sentiment that it appeared deliberate
[2016-03-11 13:29:56] BitMEX_Sam : The UI will warn you if you put an order that deep into the book
[2016-03-11 13:30:30] elmorte : Yeah, it saved my ass a few days ago, and I was shorting 10% below the market price
[2016-03-11 13:30:37] elmorte : Gotcha
[2016-03-11 13:30:45] jung1 : yeah
[2016-03-11 13:30:51] jung1 : this is why I like bitmex
[2016-03-11 13:30:59] elmorte : jung1: so easy to miss a decimal on Eth
[2016-03-11 13:47:24] bitsoverload : hi newbie here any tip guys
[2016-03-11 13:54:20] jung1 : bitsoverload: buy high sell low
[2016-03-11 13:54:21] jung1 : stay classy
[2016-03-11 13:54:31] kobra42 : how long to deposit FCT?
[2016-03-11 13:55:02] BitMEX_Sam : kobra42: We don't do FCT deposits, deposits are Bitcoin only
[2016-03-11 13:55:09] kobra42 : rgr
[2016-03-11 13:55:36] kobra42 : gl with ftc today ladies and gents
[2016-03-11 13:57:48] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-03-11 14:00:26] chromaticcr : BitMEX_Sam: Will XBT24H_48H Rolling contract be around soon?
[2016-03-11 14:03:08] HugeRoo : Just listened to the Bitcoin Knowledge podcast with Rootstock's Diago Guitterez. Well worth a listen if you are long BTC.
[2016-03-11 14:03:29] BitMEX_Sam : chromaticcr: Yep, just putting it through testing
[2016-03-11 14:14:16] jung1 : HugeRoo: what was there?
[2016-03-11 14:15:48] HugeRoo : ??? jung1?
[2016-03-11 14:16:45] jung1 : in that podcast
[2016-03-11 14:16:46] jung1 : what kind of info
[2016-03-11 14:41:46] kendang : slow day
[2016-03-11 14:44:17] BitMEX_Sam : We'll see how ti goes
[2016-03-11 14:44:28] BitMEX_Sam : Seems like a lot of markets are primed to move
[2016-03-11 14:58:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.02660
[2016-03-11 15:11:16] haxmb : who is asking this low on ETH7D
[2016-03-11 15:11:35] haxmb : free money fellas
[2016-03-11 15:12:33] splash : hi
[2016-03-11 15:19:59] rapidtrades : so we removed the 3rd biggest altcoin and now bringing in trash like eth and fct
[2016-03-11 15:21:28] BitMEX_Wally : No-one was trading `XLT7D`
[2016-03-11 15:21:48] BitMEX_Wally : But ETH volume is nearly matching XBT
[2016-03-11 15:21:48] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: that's because it wasn't moving
[2016-03-11 15:21:55] BitMEX_Sam : ETH is the #1 trading alt at the moment
[2016-03-11 15:22:03] BitMEX_Wally : And FCT is #2
[2016-03-11 15:24:47] chromaticcr : @BitMEX_Wally : Perhaps we should also add a credit default swap contract to Poloniex coz it is #1 crapcoins exchange so perhaps we can have people hedge here.. Especially with their margin market which cascading margin call never happens ;)
[2016-03-11 15:29:58] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr: how will payout be if poloniex default?
[2016-03-11 15:30:09] arbitrage001 : cuz i might be interested
[2016-03-11 15:30:39] chromaticcr : Just an idea came outta my mind
[2016-03-11 15:31:00] arbitrage001 : poloniex offers lending service
[2016-03-11 15:31:21] arbitrage001 : just a matter of time before cascading margin call happen
[2016-03-11 15:31:32] arbitrage001 : definitive event
[2016-03-11 15:31:55] arbitrage001 : and lenders go broke
[2016-03-11 15:32:10] chromaticcr : when you can lend your money at 0.3% per day for like almost a month, this is quite.... interesting
[2016-03-11 15:32:19] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-03-11 15:32:25] arbitrage001 : most people think it is free money
[2016-03-11 15:32:28] arbitrage001 : but it is not
[2016-03-11 15:32:32] chromaticcr : really wonder how much money is in their system
[2016-03-11 15:32:39] arbitrage001 : risk is ridiculasly high
[2016-03-11 15:32:54] arbitrage001 : saw a friend in my telegram group
[2016-03-11 15:33:00] arbitrage001 : with 600 bitcoins on poloniex
[2016-03-11 15:33:37] arbitrage001 : braggging his 600 btc and 10k eth
[2016-03-11 15:33:50] chromaticcr : good like with this eth
[2016-03-11 15:33:50] arbitrage001 : all on poloniex
[2016-03-11 15:34:18] chromaticcr : A few months ago I have asked about this thing in polo' troll box. No response
[2016-03-11 15:34:19] arbitrage001 : when shit hit the fan, doesnt matter how high eth goes
[2016-03-11 15:35:28] chromaticcr : I saw a bet on fairlay, if default of 5% or morehappens in polo, it pays ~9x
[2016-03-11 15:38:54] chromaticcr : arbitrage001: I will grab a freshdesk ticket to polo and see if we can get some data rgding to lended amt on the system and make them confirm by word on what happens when it defaults
[2016-03-11 15:40:18] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr: let us know the outcome
[2016-03-11 15:40:23] arbitrage001 : on default
[2016-03-11 15:41:51] chromaticcr : well... I guess they wont face (reply) it directly.. but anyways, BitMEX is somewhere that I trust, and has a great capability on issuing CDS with great professionals around
[2016-03-11 16:13:55] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 16:18:11] S410520 : how? lol
[2016-03-11 16:18:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 136 @ 0.01
[2016-03-11 16:24:15] BitMEX_Sam : Looks like a rounding error on the bot re: that price
[2016-03-11 16:24:28] BitMEX_Sam : Should be 0.00531
[2016-03-11 16:25:35] BitMEX_Sam : @micmix You should use `instrument.tickSize`
[2016-03-11 16:36:53] splash : have the friday eth contract settled already today?
[2016-03-11 16:37:27] habibi : splash: try guess :)
[2016-03-11 16:37:40] splash : yes it has
[2016-03-11 16:37:40] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-03-11 16:37:43] splash : cool
[2016-03-11 16:37:53] splash : i kind of thought it had, but i wanted confirmation
[2016-03-11 16:38:05] splash : great to see some factom trading taking place also
[2016-03-11 16:38:41] BitMEX_Sam : splash: In general check the expiry both in the contract details in the sidebar, or in the ticker at the top right
[2016-03-11 16:38:55] BitMEX_Sam : Right now it should say about 6d 19h, which tells you just expired 5h ago
[2016-03-11 16:42:21] splash : thanks
[2016-03-11 16:42:55] splash : ah yes i c it now. how could i have missed it. GUI very good, me that was bad
[2016-03-11 16:51:17] bycag : i sent bitcoin from poloniex here.. and give me error Status: COMPLETE: ERROR
[2016-03-11 16:52:14] elmorte : Doesn't sound good
[2016-03-11 16:52:27] Teddy76 : bycag: ask mod at polo trollbox
[2016-03-11 16:52:30] elmorte : I got COMPLETE: DOUCHEBAG once :/
[2016-03-11 16:52:46] Teddy76 : i had same issue few hours ago
[2016-03-11 16:52:58] elmorte : Glad I'm not the only one :)
[2016-03-11 17:11:45] splash : for real?
[2016-03-11 17:12:46] splash : doucebag?
[2016-03-11 17:13:48] elmorte : Could've been COMPLETE: DB and I was reading too much into it...
[2016-03-11 17:14:15] elmorte : It's friday night....details fuzzy
[2016-03-11 17:14:53] elmorte : HugeRoo: I'd like my 20 minutes back, thanks
[2016-03-11 17:38:17] rapidtrades : great $1.3 premium
[2016-03-11 17:38:23] rapidtrades : too small to sell too big to buy
[2016-03-11 17:38:30] rapidtrades : market's been a joke lately
[2016-03-11 17:38:42] rapidtrades : WHERE'S THE VOLATILITY
[2016-03-11 17:42:16] elmorte : Let it out man
[2016-03-11 17:43:01] elmorte : Didn't BTC jump $10 in the last 36hrs?
[2016-03-11 17:47:24] Teddy76 : wx
[2016-03-11 18:30:21] ProfSims : Hello
[2016-03-11 18:31:03] BitMEX_Sam : Hi ProfSims
[2016-03-11 18:40:53] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: My position is long, in the money and the mark price keeps going up. I have an open short to cover and I have an open long way below in case the price dips, which would almost double my position. Which of these is making my margin increase as the mark price rises?
[2016-03-11 18:42:17] BitMEX_Sam : If you're making money on a non-XBU contract, the profit is withheld until rebalancing, which may explain some of what you're seeing
[2016-03-11 18:42:26] BitMEX_Sam : The close order is 'free', as it would neutralize your position
[2016-03-11 18:42:36] BitMEX_Sam : But the open long is not and consumes margin as long as it is open.
[2016-03-11 18:42:56] BitMEX_Sam : Note that while these open orders technically consume margin, the liquidation engine will cancel them and re-assess before liquidating a position
[2016-03-11 18:52:35] elmorte : Sure about the last part? I got liq'd at the liq. price that was derived with open orders (that would've increased my position). If the orders were cancelled, I assume the liq. price would have dropped (since I was long) and I may have avoided the liq'n.... No need to dig it up, just asking
[2016-03-11 19:01:52] BitMEX_Sam : I'll double-check with Wally, he wrote that part of the code
[2016-03-11 19:15:38] rapidtrades : im so bored right now
[2016-03-11 19:16:09] rapidtrades : if i was a pleb i would trade just to kill the boredom
[2016-03-11 19:16:23] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: It's all good, just went back over the logs. I was liq'd at a price way below the indicated liq'n price so it all adds up
[2016-03-11 19:16:38] BitMEX_Sam : :)
[2016-03-11 19:16:45] elmorte : rapidtrades: it's Friday nite dude
[2016-03-11 19:17:33] elmorte : Glad my misery puts a smile on your face @BitMEX_Sam hehe
[2016-03-11 19:17:53] BitMEX_Sam : Just glad that it's working as advertised
[2016-03-11 19:19:11] elmorte : Same. Was a bit painful to look at properly at the time. Closure is good :)
[2016-03-11 19:23:25] elmorte : How much do I owe you for the shrink session? :)
[2016-03-11 19:40:01] justinlooking : any dpe so far this month?
[2016-03-11 19:44:57] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: About tree fiddy
[2016-03-11 19:45:16] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Last DPE was over two months ago
[2016-03-11 19:45:29] BitMEX_Sam : Rather, just under two months
[2016-03-11 19:46:14] justinlooking : ok, thanks. can i get that info from the api somehow?
[2016-03-11 19:47:00] BitMEX_Sam : Yep - you can see it here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-03-11 19:47:18] BitMEX_Sam : That pulls from https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/settlement?count=100&reverse=true
[2016-03-11 19:56:08] splash : BITMEX_Sam: about the PNL Calculator. An idea would be to make it possible to fill in the profit loss field and then the calc would render the exit price for you.
[2016-03-11 19:56:20] splash : That way you could easily calc where you want ur stoploss
[2016-03-11 19:57:54] splash : it could be like an "advance mode" or something that you have to open up
[2016-03-11 19:59:10] splash : wow look at that eth is moving up just as i thought it would, but im missing out on the action because i lost my position because i forgot that it was friday and contract settlement. ive got to be the best worst trader ever
[2016-03-11 20:01:17] elmorte : The eth market here seems to ignore/lag behind the index...so don't be too hard on yourself and there's still time to catch up
[2016-03-11 20:01:33] justinlooking : sam: thanks
[2016-03-11 20:05:50] splash : elmorte: thanks for the + energy
[2016-03-11 21:02:00] habibi : elmorte: more shorters so mm bot actually keeps orders this way
[2016-03-11 21:21:36] BTCDJS : splash: No. I am the worst trader ever :)
[2016-03-11 21:22:08] habibi : u still here :) so other u not loosing that fast or u refilling ur wallet :D
[2016-03-11 21:22:41] BTCDJS : habibi: you talking to me punk? :)
[2016-03-11 21:23:20] habibi : ;)
[2016-03-11 21:24:01] BTCDJS : I have an endless supply of money to waste
[2016-03-11 21:24:17] BTCDJS : until i learn to make some
[2016-03-11 21:24:41] BTCDJS : I just think of it as learning fees
[2016-03-11 21:27:39] splash : habibi: hello. how r u 2 day?
[2016-03-11 21:29:37] habibi : splash: hey, pretty boring, waiting for eth to make major move before homestead, whatever it goes, let volatility increase
[2016-03-11 21:29:54] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I signed up at oanda and one of their people called me today. When i sign up for a real account i get a free online course.
[2016-03-11 21:48:32] splash : habibi: smart move
[2016-03-11 21:49:04] habibi : expect some bigger dump but will see
[2016-03-11 22:16:57] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: recent trades stucks for me, need refresh to update data
[2016-03-11 22:29:00] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: ok, taking the course is not a bad idea since ur new to fx
[2016-03-11 22:31:02] rapidtrades : oanda's good cos u can trade single units like $1...most retailers only let u have lots of $100 or $1000 dollars...this makes it hard to test different strategies with real money
[2016-03-11 22:35:04] haxmb : Any admins here? :)
[2016-03-11 22:35:09] sleger : since when is 1$ real money ?
[2016-03-11 22:35:57] haxmb : I have a question about rate limits :)
[2016-03-11 22:36:58] rapidtrades : sleger: well well, if it isn't mr Maserati
[2016-03-11 22:37:46] rapidtrades : i think im getting sick, food tastes very different to me
[2016-03-11 22:37:58] rapidtrades : either that or everything's gotten bad at the same time
[2016-03-11 22:38:06] LR3NZ : sheeeeeeeeeeit...
[2016-03-11 22:38:24] LR3NZ : liquidated on factom and then it shoots up.. just another day
[2016-03-11 22:38:32] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: Yeah, any issue?
[2016-03-11 22:46:54] micmix : 30k FCT was added to the book on Polo
[2016-03-11 22:47:23] rapidtrades : micmix: thanks for REKT
[2016-03-11 22:47:56] micmix : rapidtrades: have to fix it for FCT, will do that later today
[2016-03-11 22:48:29] rapidtrades : meh, don't trade that shitcoin
[2016-03-11 22:49:23] micmix : FCT is 99% scam
[2016-03-11 22:49:51] micmix : and they are already exiting
[2016-03-11 22:53:59] habibi : bright future on bitmex then :D
[2016-03-11 22:55:03] micmix : spread on polo on FCT is 4% for 5 btc worth, books are super thin
[2016-03-11 22:55:39] habibi : yep funny to see lower spread here from time to time then on spot
[2016-03-11 22:57:17] rapidtrades : habibi: yah its hilarious
[2016-03-11 23:10:39] micmix : another 20k FCT for sale
[2016-03-11 23:15:18] rapidtrades : does any trade fx futures
[2016-03-11 23:22:03] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: heya Sam
[2016-03-11 23:22:23] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: just wondering, does the Rate Limit apply for order cancels too? :o
[2016-03-11 23:23:37] haxmb : because i would really hate to have my cancels not go through in a dumping or rising market
[2016-03-11 23:23:42] haxmb : because of the rate limit
[2016-03-11 23:30:05] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: Don't worry, we've thought of that
[2016-03-11 23:30:16] BitMEX_Sam : Cancels still count against your limit, but they are never stopped by it
[2016-03-11 23:30:31] BitMEX_Sam : So if you have 150 requests left, and you execute 10 cancels, you have 140 left
[2016-03-11 23:30:43] BitMEX_Sam : But if you have 5 left, and you execute 10 cancels, you have 0 requests left, yet all 10 cancels execute
[2016-03-11 23:31:45] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: ok cheers
[2016-03-11 23:31:58] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: you guys have the right format
[2016-03-11 23:32:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.02661 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 23:32:09] BitMEX_Sam : In general use bulk orders/amends/cancels when you can, it is cheaper on requests
[2016-03-11 23:32:26] haxmb : other exchanges Rate Limit cancels too, which has cost me a lot of $$ in the past
[2016-03-11 23:32:26] BitMEX_Sam : It triggers fewer individual risk checks on our end so we ratelimit them more generously.
[2016-03-11 23:32:48] BitMEX_Sam : Ah that's really awful. We added this exception back in beta after someone got caught out in the trading game
[2016-03-11 23:32:59] BitMEX_Sam : Cancels are incredibly cheap so there's no risk leaving them open.
[2016-03-11 23:33:03] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: great work, cheers
[2016-03-11 23:33:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.02644 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 23:33:10] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: good luck
[2016-03-11 23:33:16] haxmb : (Y)
[2016-03-11 23:33:19] haxmb : :O
[2016-03-11 23:33:50] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: oh and do you guys have MM privileges?
[2016-03-11 23:34:11] BitMEX_Sam : What do you mean?
[2016-03-11 23:34:16] haxmb : friend of mine is looking to maybe provide a lot of liquidity for ETH7D and FCT7D
[2016-03-11 23:34:20] BitMEX_Sam : Ah -
[2016-03-11 23:34:32] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, we offer maker rebates to all users, they're especially beneficial to MMs
[2016-03-11 23:34:48] BitMEX_Sam : We also increase ratelimits for anyone MMing a market at any decent size or spread
[2016-03-11 23:34:55] haxmb : ok, how? :)
[2016-03-11 23:34:57] BitMEX_Sam : Just email us, or have your friend email us - support@bitmex.com
[2016-03-11 23:35:02] haxmb : oh cool
[2016-03-11 23:35:39] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: cheers, will do
[2016-03-11 23:35:48] BitMEX_Sam : :shipit:
[2016-03-12 00:16:47] justinlooking : am tempted to register isbitcoin420.com
[2016-03-12 00:27:11] tscha : lol
[2016-03-12 00:48:59] rapidtrades : im so f*cking bored, thinking about learning some coding
[2016-03-12 00:59:37] tscha : in excel?
[2016-03-12 01:06:31] rapidtrades : maybe, lot of traders are doing basic tests with excel
[2016-03-12 01:07:31] tscha : good luck then
[2016-03-12 01:19:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.01
[2016-03-12 02:20:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1783 @ 0.02907
[2016-03-12 02:32:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 419.85
[2016-03-12 02:33:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1300 @ 419.77
[2016-03-12 02:34:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1072 @ 419.72
[2016-03-12 03:02:43] peasant-wizard : Curious to see ETH7D not much action?
[2016-03-12 03:03:08] peasant-wizard : Considering what's happening on Polo right now
[2016-03-12 03:05:23] peasant-wizard : nvm theres the volume :)
[2016-03-12 03:10:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 86096 @ 418.96 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-03-12 03:10:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 419.14 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-12 03:11:24] pajak666 : ETH will be added to bitfinex
[2016-03-12 03:14:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 22087 @ 415.14 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-03-12 03:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 422 @ 0.03182
[2016-03-12 03:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 25 @ 0.03214
[2016-03-12 03:58:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.03283
[2016-03-12 03:58:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 8223 @ 0.03285
[2016-03-12 04:24:56] j8 : eth market cap $1 billion
[2016-03-12 04:25:06] j8 : that's 2.4 million btc
[2016-03-12 04:26:47] micmix : not bad for a coin that's not supposed to be a store of value. no one even knows how many coins will be issued
[2016-03-12 04:29:08] j8 : yep, it's running on a lot of hype
[2016-03-12 04:31:16] j8 : i made an impulse buy as soon as i saw the e-mail from bitfinex. worked out well
[2016-03-12 04:33:25] micmix : yep, same here, already closed
[2016-03-12 04:35:32] j8 : same. looks like someone knew 3 hours ago
[2016-03-12 04:36:08] micmix : I was buying yesterday but it was before the settlement, stupid me
[2016-03-12 04:39:02] micmix : bought again after settlement but the price was 0.02755 instead of 0.02646
[2016-03-12 04:40:50] j8 : eth is a complete gamble for me. generally want to be short but the timing is tricky
[2016-03-12 04:42:56] micmix : yeah, I had to close my short on Polo with 5 coins loss, still waiting to re-short
[2016-03-12 04:52:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9800 @ 413.58
[2016-03-12 04:54:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 412.66
[2016-03-12 04:54:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9151 @ 412.51
[2016-03-12 04:54:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9569 @ 412.48
[2016-03-12 04:55:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6412 @ 411.68
[2016-03-12 04:55:01] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-03-12 05:04:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 11002 @ 413.00
[2016-03-12 05:05:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 191 @ 412.48
[2016-03-12 05:22:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 5000 @ 411.49
[2016-03-12 05:23:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6001 @ 410.06
[2016-03-12 05:24:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 67 @ 415.03
[2016-03-12 05:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 31 @ 408.88
[2016-03-12 05:41:01] chromaticcr : MOAR REKT PLS
[2016-03-12 05:48:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 30 @ 412.05
[2016-03-12 06:10:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 9 @ 0.03201
[2016-03-12 06:10:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1028 @ 0.03202
[2016-03-12 06:11:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 27 @ 0.03208
[2016-03-12 06:41:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 10000 @ 414.17
[2016-03-12 07:12:07] S410520 : what is Withheld Profit?
[2016-03-12 07:14:19] BitMEX_Wally : S410520: https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq#why-is-my-profit-withheld
[2016-03-12 07:15:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 4012 @ 0.03222
[2016-03-12 07:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.03238 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-12 07:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 669 @ 0.03232
[2016-03-12 07:37:21] S410520 : BitMEX_Wally: alright then
[2016-03-12 07:43:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.03264
[2016-03-12 07:49:20] rapidtrades : lol a new high for eth
[2016-03-12 07:49:51] habibi : yea shocked as well, glad didnt sleep with short. finex is adding so pump is coz of it basically
[2016-03-12 07:50:47] rapidtrades : finex ix adding eth huh
[2016-03-12 07:50:55] rapidtrades : what nuckleheads
[2016-03-12 07:53:27] rapidtrades : and of course btc is down
[2016-03-12 07:58:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.03196
[2016-03-12 08:54:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 175 @ 413.55
[2016-03-12 09:32:29] viptrader : buy ETH here
[2016-03-12 09:34:25] habibi : u will have more influence on polo :)
[2016-03-12 09:34:57] viptrader : buy buy buy
[2016-03-12 09:35:43] micmix : viptrader: you forgot to tell us that we have to buy FCT too
[2016-03-12 09:35:59] viptrader : FCT is shit
[2016-03-12 09:36:02] viptrader : just ETH
[2016-03-12 09:36:07] viptrader : at support level here
[2016-03-12 09:36:46] micmix : ah ok, thanks for the advice. I'll buy after I see your buy for couple hundred ETH :-)
[2016-03-12 09:39:18] micmix : BTW, I fixed the REKT bot, will show FCT correctly. Also it uses websocket now, so it's faster and won't miss any liquidations
[2016-03-12 09:40:08] viptrader : buy buy buy buy
[2016-03-12 09:40:12] habibi : thx micmix
[2016-03-12 09:41:04] chromaticcr : micmix: thx for the REKT service, love it!
[2016-03-12 09:41:31] micmix : chromaticcr: you're welcome!
[2016-03-12 09:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 15 @ 0.03073
[2016-03-12 09:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 28 @ 0.03056
[2016-03-12 09:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 8 @ 0.03064
[2016-03-12 09:43:15] habibi : nice call viptrader
[2016-03-12 09:43:54] donkey : lol
[2016-03-12 09:44:14] chromaticcr : 0.03 is the new floor
[2016-03-12 09:44:27] chromaticcr : get rekt now or never!
[2016-03-12 09:45:02] micmix : we need ETH REKTosaurus :-)
[2016-03-12 09:45:34] micmix : no, take it back, I don't want DPE on ETH
[2016-03-12 09:50:02] haxmb : yeah fuck DPE :O