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[2016-03-10 11:36:16] Teddy76 : Bitmex XBT index is based on this index https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/
[2016-03-10 11:36:20] elmorte : I thought you were pulling ETH from Tradebloxk as well
[2016-03-10 11:36:44] rapidtrades : at 12:25 both okc and finex were same price or slightly higher yet the index dropped 40 cents now..its obv smone is hammering the less liquid exchanges
[2016-03-10 11:36:49] BitMEX_Wally : Unfortunately they do not do altcoins
[2016-03-10 11:37:02] BitMEX_Wally : We are using Poloniex for our ETH and FCT indices
[2016-03-10 11:37:03] elmorte : Noted
[2016-03-10 11:37:08] BitMEX_Arthur : We have been listening to your feedback on Tradeblock XBX
[2016-03-10 11:37:14] BitMEX_Arthur : we will be announcing a new index very soon
[2016-03-10 11:37:18] elmorte : Haha, so Arthur wasn't kidding about FCT
[2016-03-10 11:37:25] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: did u were wondering about changing xbt index to ur own ?
[2016-03-10 11:37:40] BitMEX_Arthur : stay tuned @habibi
[2016-03-10 11:37:47] BitMEX_Arthur : hopefully next week sometime we will announce
[2016-03-10 11:37:56] Teddy76 : you'll add FCT?
[2016-03-10 11:38:03] BitMEX_Wally : FCT is coming tomorrow
[2016-03-10 11:38:06] habibi : great, hope some volatility will comes as well till then
[2016-03-10 11:38:08] Teddy76 : nice
[2016-03-10 11:38:10] BitMEX_Wally : It's live in testnet for you to try out: https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/FCT7D
[2016-03-10 11:38:39] BitMEX_Wally : In general we prefer a 3rd party index rather than calculating it ourselves.
[2016-03-10 11:39:16] elmorte : Plausible deniability :)
[2016-03-10 11:39:46] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Actual deniability is better
[2016-03-10 11:39:55] elmorte : Hehe
[2016-03-10 11:42:36] elmorte : How are the rates on shapeshift compared to market rates? Anyone used it?
[2016-03-10 11:52:48] habibi : i checked monero, actually they have slightly better rates than polo spot right now
[2016-03-10 11:53:03] elmorte : Same system as shapeshift?
[2016-03-10 11:54:51] habibi : monero as a altcoin on shapeshift
[2016-03-10 11:54:54] elmorte : Oh, monero is a coin
[2016-03-10 11:54:57] elmorte : My bad
[2016-03-10 12:01:22] rapidtrades : quotes rozen?
[2016-03-10 12:02:18] rapidtrades : did bitmex died
[2016-03-10 12:02:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 45 @ 0.02803
[2016-03-10 12:04:55] elmorte : Sounds like @splash 's problem yesterday
[2016-03-10 12:05:23] rapidtrades : no trades yet on 24h?
[2016-03-10 12:05:41] rapidtrades : quotes running now, i think bots were static or smth
[2016-03-10 12:05:49] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah most market makers stop quoting just before settlement
[2016-03-10 12:05:59] rapidtrades : this was after
[2016-03-10 12:06:01] BitMEX_Wally : Then they slowly start quoting again after it resists
[2016-03-10 12:06:04] BitMEX_Wally : re-lists
[2016-03-10 12:06:36] rapidtrades : or we're trading again...looks like another slow day
[2016-03-10 12:07:00] elmorte : There's no news to trade on
[2016-03-10 12:07:26] rapidtrades : maybe some idiot will fomo on ecb
[2016-03-10 12:09:38] elmorte : XBT safe haven?
[2016-03-10 12:11:16] elmorte : Should do what Ethtraders do....create news
[2016-03-10 12:11:34] habibi : its not all about creating news
[2016-03-10 12:11:51] rapidtrades : right...we should spam also
[2016-03-10 12:12:02] habibi : same information can make tons of people fomo when there is sentiment for that, and other day they can treat same info as nothing
[2016-03-10 12:12:25] elmorte : Next thing you're gonna say is ppl are irrational
[2016-03-10 12:13:01] habibi : u are the one saying btc trading is going only on news which is simply false :p
[2016-03-10 12:13:34] j8 : could make a move today with the new okc quarterly launching
[2016-03-10 12:13:39] elmorte : Maybe it sounded like that... but you can't deny news move markets
[2016-03-10 12:13:46] rapidtrades : j8: are u sure
[2016-03-10 12:14:04] j8 : rapidtrades: i'm sure it's launching, dunno what will happen
[2016-03-10 12:14:09] rapidtrades : huh ur right
[2016-03-10 12:14:37] rapidtrades : we have 18/3 and 25/3 listed...next will be quarterly
[2016-03-10 12:14:39] habibi : elmorte: not much imo, rumors more, and its all about emotions, we had great news in downtrend that didnt even move us up a little
[2016-03-10 12:17:04] elmorte : There's definitely a lack of emotion in BTC then
[2016-03-10 12:17:11] elmorte : Relatively at least
[2016-03-10 12:18:55] elmorte : Even rapid's somewhat tame :)
[2016-03-10 12:20:29] donchard : pls what is maker and taker fess
[2016-03-10 12:30:18] habibi : donchard: maker - u put orders on the book, taker - ur orders takes from the book
[2016-03-10 12:30:57] donchard : kk tn
[2016-03-10 12:31:46] donchard : habibi: can you share some stegy with me
[2016-03-10 12:31:57] habibi : only best ones from me
[2016-03-10 12:32:03] habibi : buy low, sell higher
[2016-03-10 12:32:43] donchard : how do i go about it
[2016-03-10 12:34:09] habibi : i will move u to our another expert: rapidtrades could you give him 5 minutes session?
[2016-03-10 12:35:02] Teddy76 : lol
[2016-03-10 12:35:09] elmorte : I bet sleger would be a better teacher
[2016-03-10 12:35:12] donchard : oka
[2016-03-10 12:35:14] elmorte : *hides*
[2016-03-10 12:35:27] donchard : is he around now
[2016-03-10 12:36:04] donchard : rapidtrades: hi
[2016-03-10 12:37:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 600 @ 413.75
[2016-03-10 12:37:25] HowDoge : BitMEX_Wally: why am I still getting logged out ? this is now day 2 of this :/
[2016-03-10 12:47:51] rapidtrades : f*ck the Euro
[2016-03-10 12:49:07] rapidtrades : all those idiots buying yday prolly feel mighty stupid
[2016-03-10 12:57:12] jung1 : http://www.istotex.io/
[2016-03-10 12:57:20] jung1 : new futures exchange
[2016-03-10 13:04:31] Teddy76 : jung1: did you invested?
[2016-03-10 13:05:10] NukeLaloosh : Teddy76: no one has. there is 0 at that address @Teddy76
[2016-03-10 13:06:02] Teddy76 : which address?
[2016-03-10 13:06:16] habibi : its personalized addy i bet, but still how u can invest in anything after looking at 5 minute made site
[2016-03-10 13:06:32] NukeLaloosh : the istotex.io btc address
[2016-03-10 13:06:40] habibi : until its not a scam, it is :p
[2016-03-10 13:06:41] NukeLaloosh : exactly
[2016-03-10 13:07:23] Teddy76 : jung1: where did you find that? reddit?
[2016-03-10 13:07:51] jung1 : Teddy76: no. yes on reddit
[2016-03-10 13:08:44] Teddy76 : smell scam until more information is published, it's just a 1 hour work until now :D
[2016-03-10 13:09:57] NukeLaloosh : ...but you can own 1% of it for a mere $400!!
[2016-03-10 13:11:08] Teddy76 : NukeLaloosh: of a simple html page? :D
[2016-03-10 13:11:16] Teddy76 : it's really expensive
[2016-03-10 13:18:38] jung1 : idea of buying exchange shares is good imo
[2016-03-10 13:18:47] jung1 : like it was on mcxnow
[2016-03-10 13:18:58] jung1 : dividends was paid every6h
[2016-03-10 13:19:08] jung1 : and you could trade them on market
[2016-03-10 13:22:02] jung1 : wtf on eth
[2016-03-10 13:22:05] jung1 : 'here
[2016-03-10 13:22:18] elmorte : Huh>???
[2016-03-10 13:22:23] elmorte : Wtf indeed
[2016-03-10 13:22:25] jung1 : someone bought up to 3689
[2016-03-10 13:22:47] jung1 : expesive mistake
[2016-03-10 13:23:48] elmorte : Printscreen for keeps :)
[2016-03-10 13:23:50] j8 : gotta watch those market orders. good thing they didn't wreck all the shorts up to there.
[2016-03-10 13:25:21] elmorte : 4 second period, can that be a market order?
[2016-03-10 13:25:28] habibi : who is that idiooot! :D
[2016-03-10 13:25:54] elmorte : Might not be an idiot if eth closes at 0.04 tom :)
[2016-03-10 13:26:04] habibi : still idiot coz of market buy
[2016-03-10 13:27:09] elmorte : Yeah, I'm not really arguing that :)
[2016-03-10 13:27:20] elmorte : Wish I had more shorts though
[2016-03-10 13:27:39] habibi : new guy came to eth
[2016-03-10 13:27:44] habibi : let him do that few times more
[2016-03-10 13:28:18] elmorte : rapid is a really good teacher
[2016-03-10 13:28:32] Teddy76 : i really need to put a MM bot on it
[2016-03-10 13:32:05] elmorte : 4809 contracts..
[2016-03-10 13:36:00] BitMEX_Wally : Those ETH7D trades were not Market orders
[2016-03-10 13:37:15] BitMEX_Wally : They put in a limit price and lifted the offer a few times, and then raised their limit price and lifted it again
[2016-03-10 13:37:37] elmorte : therefore the 4 sec range?
[2016-03-10 13:38:14] habibi : nice remake of calculator btw
[2016-03-10 13:40:11] elmorte : 143.55 BTC worth of contracts...how much do you need on your account not to get liq'd?
[2016-03-10 13:40:46] BitMEX_Wally : ETH7D has a maintenance margin of 2%
[2016-03-10 13:41:19] yerb : at what leverage was the order executed?
[2016-03-10 13:41:30] elmorte : 0.029029 average entry price
[2016-03-10 13:41:43] BitMEX_Wally : I cannot disclose private account details
[2016-03-10 13:41:56] BitMEX_Wally : The max leverage is 25x (i.e. 4% initial margin)
[2016-03-10 13:42:44] habibi : about 3btc loss at current settle price only
[2016-03-10 13:42:56] yerb : cuz if it was 25x that would be about 5 btc
[2016-03-10 13:42:59] elmorte : yeah, he's not that far out of the money
[2016-03-10 13:43:18] BitMEX_Wally : Maybe he knows something we don't
[2016-03-10 13:43:32] yerb : maybe he is talking to aliens :)
[2016-03-10 13:43:35] elmorte : My numbers might be a bit off, I started the friday a few hrs early
[2016-03-10 13:44:11] MrVisioN : The block size FUD are the same people as the ETH bubble makers.
[2016-03-10 13:44:16] elmorte : 4945 contracts, didn't paste properly
[2016-03-10 13:44:31] habibi : or maybe he is just kinda crazy which used to be typical answer for same kind of actions in btc, no extra pumps/dumps happened and he was giving free money away
[2016-03-10 13:44:36] MrVisioN : This reminds me the LTC scam
[2016-03-10 13:44:40] elmorte : MrVisioN: thaat would make sense
[2016-03-10 13:44:57] MrVisioN : with a lot of spam transactions
[2016-03-10 13:45:24] MrVisioN : and don't forget when ripple was going to be bitcoin 2.0
[2016-03-10 13:45:36] MrVisioN : At the end ETH will crash
[2016-03-10 13:46:10] MrVisioN : even when in the longterm it might be useful, but it doesn't deserve actual maket cap. Period. :)
[2016-03-10 13:46:33] yerb : he must have cleaned out a big chunk of the ask side
[2016-03-10 13:46:47] jung1 : MrVisioN: I will be not mad if it will fall'
[2016-03-10 13:46:56] elmorte : yerb: all of it
[2016-03-10 13:47:03] jung1 : I feel quite comfortable on bear market
[2016-03-10 13:47:11] MrVisioN : I do too
[2016-03-10 13:47:47] elmorte : BTC? I kinda want it to succeed
[2016-03-10 13:48:14] yerb : and he also liquidated the orders
[2016-03-10 13:49:05] elmorte : Do hidden orders show up in trades?
[2016-03-10 13:49:08] yerb : oh, he didnt, no liquidation announces
[2016-03-10 13:49:22] elmorte : Yeah, no liq'n yet
[2016-03-10 13:49:44] haxmb : how does the bitmex engine decide liquidations
[2016-03-10 13:50:04] haxmb : not purely on orderbook/price/etc of current ETH7D book right
[2016-03-10 13:50:18] elmorte : Under Positions, you get a liq'n price
[2016-03-10 13:50:32] haxmb : yeah iuk now
[2016-03-10 13:50:33] haxmb : but
[2016-03-10 13:50:44] haxmb : if someone would place a buywall at 3600 for 10 000 contracts
[2016-03-10 13:50:48] haxmb : or something mad like that
[2016-03-10 13:50:53] haxmb : would that margin call all the shorters?
[2016-03-10 13:51:11] haxmb : because thats not a good way to decide liquidations then
[2016-03-10 13:51:14] yerb : haxmb: yeah it should
[2016-03-10 13:51:15] haxmb : BitMEX_Wally: ?
[2016-03-10 13:51:20] haxmb : :O
[2016-03-10 13:51:29] yerb : i wonder why were there no margin calls
[2016-03-10 13:51:34] elmorte : It's based on the Polo price
[2016-03-10 13:51:41] elmorte : Not the local price
[2016-03-10 13:51:46] haxmb : elmorte: exactly my point
[2016-03-10 13:51:58] haxmb : elmorte: i was hoping someone would know :)
[2016-03-10 13:52:08] yerb : so liquidations are based on the index price
[2016-03-10 13:52:21] haxmb : yerb: yeah, but the live one i think
[2016-03-10 13:52:25] haxmb : not the 2H :P
[2016-03-10 13:52:32] elmorte : yerb: yeah, mark price = polo price
[2016-03-10 13:53:25] MrVisioN : The uy who bought at 3689 is going to sell soon xD
[2016-03-10 13:54:04] MrVisioN : IMO
[2016-03-10 13:55:15] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Trades from hidden orders are reported as usual
[2016-03-10 13:56:05] BitMEX_Wally : For our DPE contracts (i.e. everything except XBU7D) we mark all positions to the mark price, which is based on the underlying index
[2016-03-10 13:56:12] yerb : set your bids, he might wick down hard :)
[2016-03-10 13:56:24] elmorte : Cheers Wally
[2016-03-10 13:56:54] MrVisioN : yerb: yeah xD
[2016-03-10 13:57:42] elmorte : I don't think so. Probably better to wait out the settlement
[2016-03-10 13:58:10] MrVisioN : you might want to stop losing money
[2016-03-10 13:58:13] elmorte : It could break 3000 the way it's going
[2016-03-10 13:58:20] MrVisioN : pressure is in his side
[2016-03-10 13:58:45] elmorte : he's on 29029 entry price...not that far
[2016-03-10 13:58:54] elmorte : Could still turn a profit
[2016-03-10 13:59:07] elmorte : Just needs a bit more spam :)
[2016-03-10 13:59:14] MrVisioN : http://i.imgur.com/qchkIur.png
[2016-03-10 13:59:30] MrVisioN : :)
[2016-03-10 13:59:43] elmorte : For someone called Mr Vision, that's a very miopic view
[2016-03-10 13:59:58] elmorte : Check the whole 4 second worth of trades
[2016-03-10 14:00:12] elmorte : myopic*
[2016-03-10 14:00:33] haxmb : MrVisioN: what if he has 20x the margin req
[2016-03-10 14:01:19] MrVisioN : i'm just saying that if the price continues down, that guy buys and sells in panic IMO
[2016-03-10 14:01:28] haxmb : "continues down"
[2016-03-10 14:01:33] elmorte : You don't panic after that
[2016-03-10 14:01:37] haxmb : not sure you're on the right end of the trade bro
[2016-03-10 14:01:45] elmorte : You smoke a cigar...
[2016-03-10 14:02:01] elmorte : Make love to your wife...
[2016-03-10 14:02:03] MrVisioN : ok lets see
[2016-03-10 14:02:06] haxmb : and pump polo to 3100 :)
[2016-03-10 14:02:10] elmorte : Single malt on the rocks...
[2016-03-10 14:02:20] MrVisioN : haxmb: that could be
[2016-03-10 14:02:27] elmorte : Then you come back and reassess the damage :)
[2016-03-10 14:05:17] elmorte : Or you could tweet it with #YOLO
[2016-03-10 14:14:59] stevelim : this might be the last Eth push before collapse.
[2016-03-10 14:20:07] elmorte : collapse before the homestead?
[2016-03-10 14:20:38] elmorte : Seems more of a fomo rush that will continue till then
[2016-03-10 14:29:10] stevelim : I am shorting around here.
[2016-03-10 14:30:00] stevelim : and longing BTC
[2016-03-10 14:32:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 600 @ 416.02
[2016-03-10 14:34:06] rapidtrades : i just got murdered in the euro...over 3% down
[2016-03-10 14:34:33] haxmb : rapidtrades: why are you fighting the MM on ECB announcements
[2016-03-10 14:34:46] haxmb : rapidtrades: thats like burning money.. literally
[2016-03-10 14:34:59] rapidtrades : haxmb: they were longer term trades,pleb
[2016-03-10 14:35:07] haxmb : rapidtrades: lol, pleb
[2016-03-10 14:35:08] rapidtrades : entered days ago
[2016-03-10 14:35:14] rapidtrades : PLEB
[2016-03-10 14:35:23] haxmb : rapidtrades: then why didnt you get the f*ck out before ECB announcements
[2016-03-10 14:35:34] haxmb : i can taste the salt from here
[2016-03-10 14:35:45] rapidtrades : cos they're long-term trades, feg
[2016-03-10 14:36:15] haxmb : nice long term trade, not keeping ECB rate changes in mind
[2016-03-10 14:36:19] haxmb : keep at it
[2016-03-10 14:36:26] haxmb : one day you will get 'em
[2016-03-10 14:36:51] habibi : fear of cutting loss make loss bigger often
[2016-03-10 14:37:31] rapidtrades : ....they were small, about 1% each
[2016-03-10 14:38:55] haxmb : rapidtrades: :)
[2016-03-10 14:40:34] elmorte : habibi: sound like Yoda
[2016-03-10 14:40:52] haxmb : elmorte: thought the same thing =D
[2016-03-10 14:41:23] habibi : good
[2016-03-10 14:43:04] elmorte : rapidtrades: where are you trading euro?
[2016-03-10 14:44:06] elmorte : Don't wanna ask why...
[2016-03-10 14:45:05] haxmb : elmorte: lol
[2016-03-10 14:49:42] jung1 : https://twitter.com/kenCode_de/status/707940353148653568
[2016-03-10 14:51:14] elmorte : jung1: where you been all day? counting your money?
[2016-03-10 14:51:36] jung1 : hangin around
[2016-03-10 14:52:06] elmorte : 3 inches....off the ground?
[2016-03-10 14:52:07] jung1 : have a brake from trading. Got some positions on maid and fct and gonna wait a bit
[2016-03-10 14:52:22] elmorte : Thought FCT was collapsing
[2016-03-10 14:52:47] elmorte : Break is good...I should really get back to my day job
[2016-03-10 14:53:14] jung1 : gotta keep it for a while
[2016-03-10 14:53:18] jung1 : check 2w chart
[2016-03-10 14:53:21] jung1 : still on the rise
[2016-03-10 14:53:34] jung1 : protip: ico.lisk.io
[2016-03-10 14:53:42] jung1 : kind of ethereum for javascript
[2016-03-10 14:53:58] jung1 : looks like nice pump
[2016-03-10 14:54:54] elmorte : Yeah, I still have the link open since the last time you posted it
[2016-03-10 14:55:08] elmorte : I think the countdown clock reset once or twice
[2016-03-10 14:55:34] jung1 : like 11 days left
[2016-03-10 14:55:58] elmorte : The BTC bonus one
[2016-03-10 14:56:03] habibi : u shilling about every single ico ipo or even about simple html site shares :D u love to loose money :D
[2016-03-10 14:56:35] jung1 : altcoins: loosing money never was so fun
[2016-03-10 14:58:06] elmorte : what language were you two speaking the other day?
[2016-03-10 14:59:46] tscha : finex down again?
[2016-03-10 15:00:05] Teddy76 : yes, stamp also on my side :/
[2016-03-10 15:00:15] elmorte : Seems like it
[2016-03-10 15:00:24] Teddy76 : came back
[2016-03-10 15:00:31] Teddy76 : 15 secondes ago
[2016-03-10 15:00:37] elmorte : back
[2016-03-10 15:01:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 157 @ 0.02666
[2016-03-10 15:09:49] tscha : finex is still down for me
[2016-03-10 15:10:39] tscha : works now
[2016-03-10 15:16:05] rapidtrades : did cny-usd gap widen today?
[2016-03-10 15:29:37] stevelim : What a fat-finger order that was. someone got long at a very wrong price.
[2016-03-10 15:30:05] elmorte : Not a fat finger according to the admin
[2016-03-10 15:30:18] elmorte : Fully intentional apparently
[2016-03-10 15:30:37] stevelim : ETHUSD it was.
[2016-03-10 15:30:47] stevelim : ETHXBT I mean
[2016-03-10 15:30:53] elmorte : Yup, same one
[2016-03-10 15:40:35] bitcoinsam : what's the diff between leverage at cross vs. setting it
[2016-03-10 15:41:32] BitMEX_Wally : bitcoinsam: Cross margin uses your whole account balance
[2016-03-10 15:41:48] BitMEX_Wally : So it is effectively the lowest amount of leverage possible
[2016-03-10 15:42:17] BitMEX_Wally : You can adjust the leverage slider and watch the liquidation price on your position change
[2016-03-10 15:43:07] bitcoinsam : got it thx!
[2016-03-10 17:30:59] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 320 @ 0.02769
[2016-03-10 17:40:41] MrVisioN : this thing is trolling me xD
[2016-03-10 17:58:20] zanza : http://i.imgur.com/pooRn7D.png
[2016-03-10 18:32:29] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.02830
[2016-03-10 18:32:29] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.02835
[2016-03-10 20:12:57] rapidtrades : weird
[2016-03-10 20:13:08] rapidtrades : i just got logged out when i typed smth in chat
[2016-03-10 20:19:23] rapidtrades : smone yday had the same problem i think
[2016-03-10 20:43:26] splash : eth here on bitmex looks weird.
[2016-03-10 20:43:29] splash : spike
[2016-03-10 20:43:35] splash : looks like stop loss hunting
[2016-03-10 20:43:41] splash : yes?
[2016-03-10 20:44:18] splash : or someone with big fingers
[2016-03-10 20:50:00] habibi : someone fat fingered limit order
[2016-03-10 20:50:57] splash : that got to have hurt some short players too
[2016-03-10 20:51:08] habibi : hm nice ask on 24h
[2016-03-10 20:52:03] splash : habibi, whats ur take on btc?
[2016-03-10 20:52:24] splash : long or short with a 2-3 months horizon?
[2016-03-10 20:53:51] habibi : waiting if we break up in next 2 weeks or downmoon
[2016-03-10 20:53:59] habibi : hopium for up, but no bets
[2016-03-10 20:54:22] splash : im extremely bullish
[2016-03-10 20:54:33] splash : i think eth is going to go up too
[2016-03-10 20:54:45] rapidtrades : splash: pick one
[2016-03-10 20:54:56] habibi : yea was about to write kinda same thing as rapidtrades
[2016-03-10 20:56:05] splash : rapidtrades: good question. id rather pick btc, because _if_ eth goes down, i think it could crash very hard. not so with btc i think, so not as risky. since its less risky, i can bet more and compensate that way
[2016-03-10 20:56:34] splash : i think eth will go up one more time on terms of btc and perhaps even go to... lets c
[2016-03-10 20:57:04] splash : eth 0.06
[2016-03-10 20:57:23] splash : i picked the top on 0.03, a double from here i think is very likely
[2016-03-10 20:57:33] splash : and it will happen really, really fast
[2016-03-10 20:57:42] habibi : why?
[2016-03-10 20:59:10] splash : because people think it will go to at least 0.05 because of the magic number that 0.05 is. then it will overshoot because it always does before it crashes hard. and it should crash because we're in a bubble. also the market is targeting that when i apply TA
[2016-03-10 21:01:16] splash : but... 0.03 to 0.06... thats only x2. thats like.... nothing. yet price is so extended already so that if it crash it might happen to fast to react.... so... risky x2... nah not worth it. btc on the other hand, super stable, super consolidated here. could go up or down, but crash hard... nope i dont think so
[2016-03-10 21:01:39] splash : therefor more safe to lever up and go all long
[2016-03-10 21:02:09] habibi : yep but from 0.3$ to 12 its 40 times but to 24$ its 80 times
[2016-03-10 21:02:20] habibi : so basically its all about magic number that is 0.05
[2016-03-10 21:02:28] habibi : interesing :)
[2016-03-10 21:02:30] splash : yea
[2016-03-10 21:02:45] splash : very intressting
[2016-03-10 21:04:00] habibi : gonna read horoscope for eth, lets say what it will tell then, i would say it can have even higher verifiability
[2016-03-10 21:04:08] splash : lol
[2016-03-10 21:04:39] splash : i was able to pick the bottom of the btc bear market, the consolidation after and the end of the consolidation too. since all of those predictions worked out, i think im looking at it the right way... and the same "pattern" says we're going way up from here
[2016-03-10 21:04:56] splash : but im in the $10 000 btc camp, so im also kind of fanatic.
[2016-03-10 21:05:04] splash : (biased)
[2016-03-10 21:05:17] habibi : by bottom u means 166$?
[2016-03-10 21:05:21] splash : yea
[2016-03-10 21:05:48] splash : picked it one day in advance and were of by about $20 but i did say i could slide a bit more and 166 was in range
[2016-03-10 21:05:59] splash : i also picked the top of the stock market a year in advance
[2016-03-10 21:05:59] habibi : k, u need to be a very successful trader then, nice to have u here :)
[2016-03-10 21:06:35] splash : well... no. im very good at making the predictions if i may say so, but im far to emotional and fear gets the best of me.
[2016-03-10 21:06:45] splash : basically i suc at discipline
[2016-03-10 21:07:00] splash : so no im not good at trading. :-P
[2016-03-10 21:07:44] habibi : yep, all i remember u called bottom at eth, and we made new bottom after ur call without jump to 0.0265, and then we went higher than 0.0265 without going down
[2016-03-10 21:08:30] splash : wow. u read and remembered :D
[2016-03-10 21:08:54] habibi : yea, coz u kinda don't remember, so i need to help u in that :)
[2016-03-10 21:10:30] splash : i do that kind of calls all of the time and get them right. yet... when i try to trade, i always fail. for instance i bought fct at 0.008, not because i thought it would go up, but i was overcome by feelings. i though "what the hell" and just did it though i knew it was kind of stupid
[2016-03-10 21:11:33] splash : do u also have those problems=
[2016-03-10 21:11:34] splash : ?
[2016-03-10 21:12:46] habibi : trying to keep emotions away, but of course yes, if emotions are in charge, hard to make smart moves, rather lucky in cooperation with typical fomo/bubble sentiment
[2016-03-10 21:15:02] splash : good thing to be lucky
[2016-03-10 21:15:03] splash : :D
[2016-03-10 21:17:37] splash : i calc 10% downside risk in btc. if it goes down that much it has Not broken the bullish trend and then would be the time to leverage up to the hilt and go mega long the longer duration futs which should be trading at discount
[2016-03-10 21:20:05] splash : odds of this happening is 75%
[2016-03-10 21:24:28] rapidtrades : splash: u think btc trend is up
[2016-03-10 21:24:53] splash : yes
[2016-03-10 21:25:00] splash : like a mad man
[2016-03-10 21:25:04] splash : no doubt
[2016-03-10 21:25:13] rapidtrades : splash: why
[2016-03-10 21:26:53] splash : im a software engineer and ive got a pretty good grasp of how bitcoin works. technically speaking. i have more then a vague understanding of the fundamental value of btc and have chatted with some of the core devs. i think they are doing what is best for btc in the long run. basically everything is bullish
[2016-03-10 21:27:22] splash : the only fear i smell is the bad sentiment, which is to be expected. had people been uber bulls already, i would not have been as bullish
[2016-03-10 21:28:05] splash : we need a lot of bears, because price needs to climb a wall of worry. panic buying comes when btc climbs above $1000 and rapidly goes to $4000
[2016-03-10 21:28:08] rapidtrades : #remembergox
[2016-03-10 21:28:24] splash : yes
[2016-03-10 21:28:33] splash : always
[2016-03-10 21:28:59] rapidtrades : u remeber but haven't learn shit
[2016-03-10 21:29:06] splash : lol
[2016-03-10 21:29:52] splash : well. i had no btc there because i thought gox were likely to go bust. i never had to learn a lesson, i sensed it before hand.
[2016-03-10 21:30:32] BTCDJS : what happens when i write cunt
[2016-03-10 21:30:42] BTCDJS : nothing. cool
[2016-03-10 21:30:48] BTCDJS : cunt cunt cunt
[2016-03-10 21:30:49] rapidtrades : there's always a lesson and u missed it @splash
[2016-03-10 21:31:13] BTCDJS : okcoin
[2016-03-10 21:31:17] BTCDJS : fuck
[2016-03-10 21:31:18] splash : rapidtrades, ur probably right
[2016-03-10 21:31:43] BTCDJS : well its not broken. I guess cunt is acceptable
[2016-03-10 21:32:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.02611
[2016-03-10 21:32:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02653
[2016-03-10 21:34:39] splash : REKT: ur a breakout bot
[2016-03-10 21:40:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.02655
[2016-03-10 21:42:06] splash : eth gonna bounce up here to 0.027 on kraken
[2016-03-10 21:42:40] splash : target about ~0.0275
[2016-03-10 21:44:05] BTCDJS : splash: no bounce kid. shows over.
[2016-03-10 21:45:34] rapidtrades : splash: oh i know im right
[2016-03-10 21:46:50] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: i think your still in the past. scroll down your chat maybe?
[2016-03-10 21:47:20] rapidtrades : he knows what im talking about
[2016-03-10 21:47:48] BTCDJS : splash is a feminine name. he could be a she
[2016-03-10 21:49:23] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: i'll take my chances on that one
[2016-03-10 21:49:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.02696
[2016-03-10 21:50:03] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: hey rapid?
[2016-03-10 21:50:23] BTCDJS : why is futures harder to trade?
[2016-03-10 21:51:01] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: because they're more volatile, they bounce around more
[2016-03-10 21:52:33] BTCDJS : wow. so if you want to get good start with futures eh?
[2016-03-10 21:53:14] BTCDJS : I'm trading a few forex pairs now.
[2016-03-10 21:53:18] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: no stick with spot
[2016-03-10 21:53:58] rapidtrades : the only benefit to futures are leverage and lower fees
[2016-03-10 21:55:16] BTCDJS : but i need an exchange that accepts £ straight away like. And i can't make money on the way down with spot
[2016-03-10 21:55:28] splash : not that it matters but yes im a woman
[2016-03-10 21:55:42] BTCDJS : splash: high five
[2016-03-10 21:55:48] splash : :D
[2016-03-10 21:56:42] BTCDJS : im glad to know there are some female traders here also
[2016-03-10 21:57:13] rapidtrades : meh she's prolly the only one
[2016-03-10 21:57:34] rapidtrades : also how is splash a feminine name lol
[2016-03-10 21:58:23] BTCDJS : what about tscha @rapidtrades
[2016-03-10 21:58:55] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: he's just a feg
[2016-03-10 21:59:10] BTCDJS : actually i thought splash was a bloke and was just trying to wind him up
[2016-03-10 21:59:37] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: he's prolly a bloke anyway :)
[2016-03-10 22:00:37] splash : splash was just a name i took. has nothing to do with my superior gender
[2016-03-10 22:00:43] BTCDJS : no she's a girl! Don't take this away from me
[2016-03-10 22:01:02] rapidtrades : idk she talks like a man
[2016-03-10 22:01:23] rapidtrades : and i don't see any smilies so...
[2016-03-10 22:01:35] BTCDJS : dude no man would refer to females as superior gender
[2016-03-10 22:02:31] rapidtrades : idk about that, the level of stupid in this chat can get pretty high
[2016-03-10 22:03:04] BTCDJS : you should try polo
[2016-03-10 22:03:18] BTCDJS : you'll be glad to come back here
[2016-03-10 22:03:29] rapidtrades : they're just pumping eth all the long over there
[2016-03-10 22:03:30] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: We do pretty well in comparison to some trollboxes
[2016-03-10 22:03:55] splash : yea this place is nice
[2016-03-10 22:04:05] rapidtrades : thanks to our Jewish overlords @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-03-10 22:04:15] rapidtrades : praise Jehovah
[2016-03-10 22:06:26] BTCDJS : we should label it the nice box
[2016-03-10 22:07:00] BTCDJS : actually no. i wouldn't be able to say, cunt if we did
[2016-03-10 22:09:23] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: did u trade any euro pairs today
[2016-03-10 22:09:47] thehawthorne : that was full madness
[2016-03-10 22:09:59] rapidtrades : it took 13 days for the euro to fall 400 pips...and few hours to gain it all back
[2016-03-10 22:10:14] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: yeah very badly. I traded eurusd then it dropped and then it shot up. so i missed the upside like a cunt
[2016-03-10 22:10:40] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: did u lose man
[2016-03-10 22:10:44] rapidtrades : money*
[2016-03-10 22:12:08] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: yes i was at work. made the trade. thought it was a sure thing. which it was. just at the wrong time. and when i finished my task at work and logged back on i was liquidated.
[2016-03-10 22:12:33] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: stops yo...
[2016-03-10 22:13:01] rapidtrades : forex is a liquid market, always use stops
[2016-03-10 22:13:53] rapidtrades : i got slipped 9 pips on one eur/jpy and 4 pips on another trade but at least i got out
[2016-03-10 22:14:32] BTCDJS : actually after that i decided to play nzdusd tried to create a stop but i must not get how it works because it closed the position before i wanted it to. I'm going to have to sit and play around till i get it.
[2016-03-10 22:14:47] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: it's a demo right
[2016-03-10 22:15:02] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: no 1Broker
[2016-03-10 22:15:07] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2016-03-10 22:15:41] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: what what?
[2016-03-10 22:15:59] rapidtrades : open an oanda demo then reseach good brokers
[2016-03-10 22:16:15] BTCDJS : 1broker.com
[2016-03-10 22:16:29] rapidtrades : that's shit
[2016-03-10 22:16:36] rapidtrades : utter garbae
[2016-03-10 22:16:43] BTCDJS : it lets me play with bitcoin
[2016-03-10 22:17:11] rapidtrades : u shouldn't be playing with any real money, u can't even place a stop ffs
[2016-03-10 22:17:58] zanza : 1broker is the best forex for bitcoin site i think
[2016-03-10 22:18:37] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: lol i know I'm stupid right?
[2016-03-10 22:18:53] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: yes, yes you are
[2016-03-10 22:18:59] BTCDJS : zanza: yeah i actually like it
[2016-03-10 22:19:10] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: im reckless mate.
[2016-03-10 22:20:03] BTCDJS : they're only small amounts of money though
[2016-03-10 22:20:07] zanza : simplefx swap rates are extremely high
[2016-03-10 22:21:16] rapidtrades : zanza: oanda used to have the best swaps but back in the day spreads were among the best too...now i see 1-2 on euro plus slippage
[2016-03-10 22:21:21] rapidtrades : that's unacceptable
[2016-03-10 22:21:59] rapidtrades : but it's good for a demo...it has other stuff on it too so he can keep himself busy
[2016-03-10 22:22:00] zanza : ahh, yeah for fiat trading
[2016-03-10 22:24:51] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: signing up now.
[2016-03-10 22:26:50] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: download metatrader, its the standard platform for retail forex
[2016-03-10 22:28:34] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: metatrader can't because its windows and I'm a mac
[2016-03-10 22:29:37] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: is the news positive or negative for USDCHF?
[2016-03-10 22:30:06] BTCDJS : I've been long for a while now. bought on the low.
[2016-03-10 22:30:19] BTCDJS : by a while i mean a few hours
[2016-03-10 22:31:24] rapidtrades : if u google metatrader for a mac u can find some decent brokers that offer it...oanda u should offer it too, did u check ur email
[2016-03-10 22:32:18] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: yeah no email
[2016-03-10 22:32:20] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: don't trade that pair, or any chf pairs
[2016-03-10 22:32:29] BTCDJS : ok
[2016-03-10 22:33:35] rapidtrades : as to is the new positive or negative, i see one large red candle today
[2016-03-10 22:34:22] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: i said usdchf. i meant eurchf
[2016-03-10 22:34:30] BTCDJS : but I've closed now
[2016-03-10 22:35:06] BTCDJS : i was just looking for pairs that dumped very hard and bought at the bottom
[2016-03-10 22:35:42] rapidtrades : that was very lucky
[2016-03-10 22:35:55] BTCDJS : USDJPY EURUSD and EURCHF
[2016-03-10 22:36:20] rapidtrades : did u buy them all or..
[2016-03-10 22:37:51] BTCDJS : those are the ones i played they're all closed now though. Im shorting OIL to 35 and then I'm going to go long oil from 34.75 or something
[2016-03-10 22:38:13] BTCDJS : and I'm long gold
[2016-03-10 22:38:32] BTCDJS : and BTCUSD long
[2016-03-10 22:38:41] rapidtrades : all with real money huh
[2016-03-10 22:38:49] BTCDJS : yep small amounts
[2016-03-10 22:39:25] BTCDJS : 0.03 - 0.05 - 0.1
[2016-03-10 22:39:31] BTCDJS : BTC
[2016-03-10 22:39:59] rapidtrades : that doesn't mean anything to me...is that lot size or what
[2016-03-10 22:40:09] rapidtrades : 0.1 so 10k or
[2016-03-10 22:41:01] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: btw btc-e also has a metatrader demo, so u don't have to waste real money here too
[2016-03-10 22:41:22] thehawthorne : http://i.imgur.com/PwyHcMz.png
[2016-03-10 22:41:33] BTCDJS : thats how much i put in. it varies from 5x for BTC to 100X or 200X on forex pairs and 20X for commodities
[2016-03-10 22:42:12] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: 0.03 is a lot size right
[2016-03-10 22:42:22] rapidtrades : ur position size?
[2016-03-10 22:43:13] habibi : thehawthorne: so price is pretty close to ur buyzone right?
[2016-03-10 22:43:26] rapidtrades : Why are u wasting money, you don't know the platform, u don't know ur size, u don't have a method for trading
[2016-03-10 22:43:55] rapidtrades : at least get some basics down...real money at this point is useless
[2016-03-10 22:44:25] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: cos I'm learning. Ill only take it seriously if i lose real money
[2016-03-10 22:45:22] thehawthorne : habibi: selling now. not feeling well about eth. guess it will drop at/after weekend and im out trading friday - sunday evening
[2016-03-10 22:45:36] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: and I'm not really losing a lot. I'm losing here and winning there
[2016-03-11 01:50:33] mdrn : no more rekt bot?
[2016-03-11 01:56:11] micmix : mdrn: REKT bot works, no liquidations in the past few hours
[2016-03-11 02:58:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.02591
[2016-03-11 02:58:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 600 @ 0.02585
[2016-03-11 04:14:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 2 @ 418.23 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-11 04:17:44] bycag : add factom here ?
[2016-03-11 04:19:30] bycag : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850070.msg14159737#msg14159737
[2016-03-11 04:27:58] BitMEX_Wally : bycag: Sure
[2016-03-11 04:28:19] BitMEX_Wally : Give us 8 hours and we'll launch a Factom contract for you
[2016-03-11 04:28:32] bycag : very nice!
[2016-03-11 04:32:02] BitMEX_Wally : It will list at 12:00 UTC (in 7.5 hours time): https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/FCT7D
[2016-03-11 04:32:40] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: would be nice to have it a week ago :-)
[2016-03-11 04:32:47] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: You should have lobbied us
[2016-03-11 04:34:18] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: yep, totally my fault. can I lobby for miadsafe now? big volatility ahead IMHO
[2016-03-11 04:34:30] micmix : *maidsafe
[2016-03-11 04:36:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 10 @ 419.08
[2016-03-11 04:37:06] micmix : IMHO all major alts available on Polo margin will be pumped and dumped multiple times
[2016-03-11 04:42:54] micmix : it's like 2014 all over again :-)
[2016-03-11 04:54:28] BitMEX_Wally : Can you market make the contract?
[2016-03-11 04:55:54] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: unfortunately I can't :-(
[2016-03-11 05:00:06] BitMEX_Wally : Someone from another exchange was asking us how we manage launch new products so quickly
[2016-03-11 05:00:13] BitMEX_Wally : They have over 50 engineers
[2016-03-11 05:00:22] BitMEX_Wally : We have 2
[2016-03-11 05:02:28] micmix : 50 engineers and they can't come up with a system that allows to add contracts quickly? that's funny. but you guys are top notch, best exchange technology-wise for sure
[2016-03-11 05:03:51] micmix : maybe you can sell your trading engine to those guys
[2016-03-11 05:04:44] micmix : or better yet, offer trading engine as a service like alphapoint guys
[2016-03-11 05:05:46] BitMEX_Wally : We've been in discussion with a few exchanges about licensing our technology, or just running the trading engine for them
[2016-03-11 05:06:57] micmix : that's very cool, many trading engines on other exchanges are really bad
[2016-03-11 05:22:08] ikhouvandebloemen : hi
[2016-03-11 05:22:41] ikhouvandebloemen : so you are opening a Factom market soon?
[2016-03-11 05:24:49] ikhouvandebloemen : found it above!