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[2016-03-07 17:34:32] sleger : elmorte: pretty easy to find... https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOnMargin
[2016-03-07 17:37:28] elmorte : Thanks
[2016-03-07 17:38:44] elmorte : Does that make sense though? If you are long, and have an open short order to cover, you run the higher risk of liquidation then if you don't have an open short order?
[2016-03-07 17:55:18] sleger : if that were the case it would not make sense
[2016-03-07 17:59:07] sleger : but it's not
[2016-03-07 17:59:44] elmorte : maybe it isn't...maybe it's the case when the short order is bigger than the current position
[2016-03-07 18:00:01] sleger : of course if its bigger
[2016-03-07 18:00:20] sleger : but you said "short order to cover"
[2016-03-07 18:00:25] sleger : not to reverse
[2016-03-07 18:00:39] elmorte : Yes, I'm trying to figure it out
[2016-03-07 18:00:47] sleger : so its not " maybe it isn't" i am telling you it is not
[2016-03-07 18:01:17] sleger : im short h16 I placed a buy 50000 at 400 and my available did not move, I placed a sell 50000 at 500 and it decreased
[2016-03-07 18:03:25] elmorte : "of course if its bigger" Why? What's the logic?
[2016-03-07 18:07:21] elmorte : If you're reversing from x to -x, why must the margin be that much higher?
[2016-03-07 18:10:17] sleger : no it wont
[2016-03-07 18:10:23] sleger : but if you reverse to -2x then yes
[2016-03-07 18:10:28] sleger : it's just logical
[2016-03-07 18:11:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1 @ 411.11 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-07 18:12:31] elmorte : But only AFTER it's filled though, right?
[2016-03-07 18:14:18] elmorte : I'm trying to figure out why my margin keeps increasing when I add orders...could be unrelated to orders, but I'd like to know for sure
[2016-03-07 18:14:39] elmorte : Can't seem to replicate it on testnet
[2016-03-07 18:18:06] sleger : elmorte: no open orders matter
[2016-03-07 18:18:14] sleger : give one example that you dont understand
[2016-03-07 18:18:40] elmorte : That's what I initially thought...that's why it didn't make sense
[2016-03-07 18:18:55] sleger : it totally makes sense afaik
[2016-03-07 18:22:42] elmorte : So open orders don't increase your margin?
[2016-03-07 18:23:40] sleger : it depends, yes they can
[2016-03-07 18:24:54] rapidtrades : so long or short today fellas
[2016-03-07 18:26:09] micmix : elmorte: open orders reserve margin if executing the order will increase your position
[2016-03-07 18:29:18] jung1 : https://ethereum.org/ homestead website
[2016-03-07 18:29:21] jung1 : looks nice
[2016-03-07 18:30:11] rapidtrades : long or short bitcoin fellas
[2016-03-07 18:30:38] jung1 : short
[2016-03-07 18:31:50] elmorte : micmix: thanks! So increased margin = closer liq. price. The system should cancel your orders though if you're nearing liq. which in turn should give you more breathing room, is that correct?
[2016-03-07 18:32:04] rapidtrades : elmorte: NO
[2016-03-07 18:32:39] elmorte : Which part?
[2016-03-07 18:34:37] elmorte : If the system does not cancel your order meaning you get liq'd faster...well then that's messed up
[2016-03-07 18:36:13] rapidtrades : elmorte: there is no margin cost to orders placed in the opposite direction, it says right there on the interface
[2016-03-07 18:36:20] rapidtrades : cost 0
[2016-03-07 18:36:55] rapidtrades : only if u exceed the amount margin gets taken out
[2016-03-07 18:37:41] rapidtrades : if u ask me, reversing margin for pending orders is an outdated system but lot of things in this space are outdated
[2016-03-07 18:38:00] rapidtrades : plus we have very original solutions like clawback and what not
[2016-03-07 18:38:13] rapidtrades : reserving margin*
[2016-03-07 18:40:55] elmorte : It is somewhat counter-intuitive which is why I'm struggling with the concept
[2016-03-07 18:53:06] rapidtrades : btc-e running away
[2016-03-07 19:04:19] rapidtrades : gonna be highly pissed if we break 450 on this try
[2016-03-07 19:05:52] Teddy76 : rapidtrades: do you trade on it?
[2016-03-07 19:07:39] rapidtrades : do i trade on what
[2016-03-07 19:10:44] rapidtrades : when does that new contraction launch? the 24/48 thingy
[2016-03-07 19:14:19] Teddy76 : btc-e
[2016-03-07 19:14:33] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-03-07 19:23:39] jung1 : eth under 0.02 this week
[2016-03-07 19:28:07] Teddy76 : no support at 0.023
[2016-03-07 19:28:32] Teddy76 : oh see, didn't seen it :)
[2016-03-07 19:31:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 226 @ 0.02311
[2016-03-07 19:32:39] jung1 : 23 here we go!
[2016-03-07 19:33:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 104 @ 0.02295
[2016-03-07 19:34:15] Teddy76 : omg Oo
[2016-03-07 19:35:33] jung1 : whoop whoop
[2016-03-07 20:31:45] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.02356
[2016-03-07 20:38:22] splash : the ETH went down. not un-expected I guess
[2016-03-07 20:38:31] splash : factoids... strange beast.
[2016-03-07 20:38:59] jung1 : splash: will be only 4mln of this
[2016-03-07 20:39:12] jung1 : good investment imo'
[2016-03-07 20:39:58] habibi : splash: didnt u were the one who said " safest bet ever" ? if no, then sorry :)
[2016-03-07 20:41:12] jung1 : hope we will drop to 0.015 at least
[2016-03-07 21:06:04] splash : habibi: no I said eth would pop above 0.03 to scr3w over short sellers then crash (retrace) then up again
[2016-03-07 21:06:20] splash : then major crash
[2016-03-07 21:06:33] splash : but next wave will be insane
[2016-03-07 21:06:52] splash : faaar above what people tnink is possible
[2016-03-07 21:06:58] habibi : splash: then good call so far
[2016-03-07 21:07:10] splash : yes. basiccalyy perfect
[2016-03-07 21:07:15] splash : but imade no money
[2016-03-07 21:07:24] splash : because my trading suck
[2016-03-07 21:07:59] habibi : even waves on 1 minut are great for scalping on eth, pretty easy trading if u careful
[2016-03-07 21:09:38] splash : i cant do 1 minutes
[2016-03-07 21:09:45] splash : because i suc
[2016-03-07 21:09:57] splash : i have issues with where to put stoploss
[2016-03-07 21:10:16] splash : generally I tend to take losses to late and profit to early
[2016-03-07 21:10:24] splash : i know im no good at it
[2016-03-07 21:10:42] splash : actually. my performance is the best when you get market collapse
[2016-03-07 21:11:12] splash : for some strange reason, I trade the best when price is moving extremely fast, like insanely fast
[2016-03-07 21:11:35] splash : ive got no problems picking bottoms and tops, im good at that too
[2016-03-07 21:11:48] splash : but range bound.... that whats get me killed
[2016-03-07 21:12:03] splash : and more often then not market is range bound
[2016-03-07 21:12:08] splash : so i suc
[2016-03-07 21:14:33] splash : for instance. right now eth made a bottom
[2016-03-07 21:14:37] splash : now it will go up
[2016-03-07 21:18:21] splash : upside target is ~0.0265 on polo
[2016-03-07 21:20:02] splash : could take half a day
[2016-03-07 21:20:39] sleger : splash: 15 messages in a row, maybe you can stop talking to yourself or go do it somewhere else ?
[2016-03-07 21:24:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.02382
[2016-03-07 21:25:12] splash : sleger: u counted them?
[2016-03-07 21:25:33] sleger : splash: might be difficult for you but counting to 15 is quite easy for most people
[2016-03-07 21:26:48] splash : sleger: why did u count them?
[2016-03-07 21:27:10] sleger : because i had to scroll over 15 messages to read something interesting
[2016-03-07 21:27:54] splash : sleger: but there was nothing else written after my last message
[2016-03-07 21:28:11] sleger : scrolling up
[2016-03-07 21:28:52] splash : the 1 minute scalping
[2016-03-07 21:28:58] splash : yes that was intressting
[2016-03-07 21:29:23] sleger : let me check
[2016-03-07 21:29:28] splash : are you going to trade the 1 minute waves now sleger?
[2016-03-07 21:29:34] sleger : the only message interesting I found was this one :
[2016-03-07 21:29:37] sleger : "splash: because i suc"
[2016-03-07 21:29:41] splash : lol
[2016-03-07 21:30:30] splash : nothing like some friendly quarel in a chat forum. i love you guy!
[2016-03-07 21:30:41] splash : was kind of empty before you wanted to talk to me
[2016-03-07 21:31:48] sleger : I wanted to make you stop. Looks like I failed
[2016-03-07 21:38:36] splash : im sitting here thinking about how to best set me stoploss
[2016-03-07 22:39:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 1500 @ 414.11
[2016-03-07 22:39:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.02284
[2016-03-07 23:11:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 390 @ 0.02270
[2016-03-07 23:35:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 225 @ 0.02253
[2016-03-08 02:02:01] yerb : My market orders are getting rejectedbwhy
[2016-03-08 02:02:23] yerb : I just wanna fomo in :)
[2016-03-08 02:02:38] yerb : Like a pro :)
[2016-03-08 02:29:34] BitMEX_Wally : yerb: Try a smaller quantity
[2016-03-08 02:30:10] BitMEX_Wally : The frontend does risk checks for Limit orders but not Market orders, which might then get rejected by the trading engine
[2016-03-08 02:31:03] BitMEX_Wally : We will add Market order risk checks to the frontend too soon
[2016-03-08 02:50:23] mtourig3 : Hello
[2016-03-08 02:50:48] mtourig3 : hey wally
[2016-03-08 02:57:24] BitMEX_Arthur : Hi
[2016-03-08 02:57:36] BitMEX_Arthur : mtourig3: how can I help
[2016-03-08 03:16:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.02245
[2016-03-08 03:16:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2900 @ 0.02229
[2016-03-08 03:17:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02215
[2016-03-08 03:17:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 226 @ 0.02217
[2016-03-08 03:18:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02179
[2016-03-08 03:18:37] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-03-08 03:18:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.02185
[2016-03-08 03:19:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.02170
[2016-03-08 03:19:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02172
[2016-03-08 03:22:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.02221
[2016-03-08 04:35:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 226 @ 0.02148
[2016-03-08 04:37:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 4 @ 0.02126 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-08 06:15:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02154
[2016-03-08 08:45:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.02277
[2016-03-08 11:45:43] splash : devs: when browser window is put behind other windows on the OS, bitmex stops loading data
[2016-03-08 11:46:34] splash : devs: while i like the idea of bitmex svaing computational resources, it would be nice if it didnt do this or at least have an option/setting where I can configure it so that it keeps loading data
[2016-03-08 11:49:40] Teddy76 : splash: what browser?
[2016-03-08 11:49:45] elmorte : Mac OS?
[2016-03-08 11:50:03] splash : Teddy76: chrome on ubuntu
[2016-03-08 11:50:30] Teddy76 : is not a chrome particularity instead?
[2016-03-08 11:50:35] splash : TEddy76: no wait
[2016-03-08 11:50:40] splash : i was wrong
[2016-03-08 11:50:43] splash : i does seem to work
[2016-03-08 11:50:57] elmorte : Doesn't do that on Chrome Win10
[2016-03-08 11:50:58] splash : nothing happened for a really long time
[2016-03-08 11:51:01] elmorte : Haha
[2016-03-08 11:51:07] splash : i feel bad
[2016-03-08 11:51:09] splash : ;)
[2016-03-08 11:51:33] splash : i repeated the process several times and chance had it that it wouldnt work it seems
[2016-03-08 11:51:48] splash : funny
[2016-03-08 11:51:55] splash : anyway, it was my bad. now it works
[2016-03-08 12:07:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.02337
[2016-03-08 12:14:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.02361
[2016-03-08 12:37:28] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 3000 @ 0.02437
[2016-03-08 12:43:03] rapidtrades : i haven't seen premium over $1 on the daily in ges
[2016-03-08 12:43:06] rapidtrades : ages*
[2016-03-08 12:43:10] rapidtrades : am I blind
[2016-03-08 12:43:35] rapidtrades : looks like the fomo has been broken
[2016-03-08 12:44:19] kb1985 : gotta love those pumps :D
[2016-03-08 12:44:24] kb1985 : and dumops lol
[2016-03-08 12:45:51] kb1985 : just find the general trend and foloow it
[2016-03-08 12:46:25] rapidtrades : kb1985: who are u talking to pleb
[2016-03-08 12:46:36] kb1985 : general public :P
[2016-03-08 12:46:50] rapidtrades : u just popped in the middle of my monolog
[2016-03-08 12:46:58] kb1985 : :P
[2016-03-08 12:47:07] rapidtrades : no references, no acknowledgment
[2016-03-08 12:47:37] kb1985 : the charts were the context :P
[2016-03-08 13:18:09] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2 @ 409.45 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-08 13:20:34] rapidtrades : is it true that u can get 0.5% for ur btc on polo
[2016-03-08 13:20:47] rapidtrades : is that f*cking true
[2016-03-08 13:24:16] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: it is true
[2016-03-08 13:24:29] arbitrage001 : it was up to 1-2% a weekk ago
[2016-03-08 13:25:01] arbitrage001 : so why trade and risk capital when you can lend, right?
[2016-03-08 13:26:13] rapidtrades : right
[2016-03-08 13:27:09] rapidtrades : so polo has to survive for the next 6 months to make those rates worth it
[2016-03-08 13:27:28] rapidtrades : how long has the site been raound
[2016-03-08 13:27:52] arbitrage001 : long enough
[2016-03-08 13:28:08] arbitrage001 : thought you were into alt coin a few years back then?
[2016-03-08 13:28:57] rapidtrades : barely touched any coins outside of the top 10 or so
[2016-03-08 13:29:50] rapidtrades : traded on cryptsy back in the day
[2016-03-08 13:30:10] rapidtrades : riptsy
[2016-03-08 13:30:21] arbitrage001 : crypssy have bad security
[2016-03-08 13:30:47] arbitrage001 : you can withdraw more than what you have from that exchange
[2016-03-08 13:30:57] arbitrage001 : and fall into negative balance
[2016-03-08 13:31:02] rapidtrades : its dead now
[2016-03-08 13:31:08] arbitrage001 : expected
[2016-03-08 13:31:27] arbitrage001 : found this bug on my 1st day on tradingg there
[2016-03-08 13:31:40] arbitrage001 : 1st week i mean
[2016-03-08 13:31:45] rapidtrades : nevr had that happen
[2016-03-08 13:31:59] arbitrage001 : you dont read much news then
[2016-03-08 13:32:13] arbitrage001 : lots of users aware of this
[2016-03-08 13:32:15] rapidtrades : not altcoin news no
[2016-03-08 13:32:45] Teddy76 : arbitrage001: had this bug a lots of time too
[2016-03-08 13:33:22] arbitrage001 : wish i was a crook
[2016-03-08 13:33:23] Teddy76 : really bad for an exchange
[2016-03-08 13:33:34] arbitrage001 : can probably steal 100's of btc
[2016-03-08 13:34:34] Teddy76 : they did audit for prevent that instead of make a better exchange :D
[2016-03-08 13:35:00] arbitrage001 : cant audit once a person withdraw
[2016-03-08 13:35:07] arbitrage001 : i mean no use auditing
[2016-03-08 13:35:18] arbitrage001 : you can create multiple accounts
[2016-03-08 13:35:23] arbitrage001 : put in 10 btc
[2016-03-08 13:35:31] arbitrage001 : then withdraw 20-40 btc
[2016-03-08 13:35:37] arbitrage001 : and never use the account again
[2016-03-08 13:35:40] arbitrage001 : rise and repeat
[2016-03-08 13:35:55] arbitrage001 : rinse
[2016-03-08 13:36:31] Teddy76 : you did it with success?
[2016-03-08 13:36:43] arbitrage001 : of course
[2016-03-08 13:36:52] arbitrage001 : not intentionally
[2016-03-08 13:37:04] arbitrage001 : and i paid back negative balance after
[2016-03-08 13:37:13] arbitrage001 : like i said
[2016-03-08 13:37:18] arbitrage001 : wish i was a crook
[2016-03-08 13:37:51] Teddy76 : ok
[2016-03-08 13:38:01] arbitrage001 : lots of reputable exchange have same bug
[2016-03-08 13:38:09] arbitrage001 : so it is a design issue
[2016-03-08 13:38:16] arbitrage001 : of 3 tier architecture system
[2016-03-08 13:39:21] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2016-03-08 13:39:48] Teddy76 : which 3 tier? bitcoind wallet?
[2016-03-08 13:40:03] Teddy76 : cryptsy had this problem on ALL of his market
[2016-03-08 13:40:04] arbitrage001 : front end, middle end and back end
[2016-03-08 13:40:18] Teddy76 : it's a conception failure imo
[2016-03-08 13:40:33] arbitrage001 : the communication between front end and back end
[2016-03-08 13:40:33] rapidtrades : so just like Jesus?
[2016-03-08 13:40:53] Teddy76 : i had several time negative balance and cryptsy support ran audit on my account to restore correct balance
[2016-03-08 13:40:54] arbitrage001 : need to have a global queue system
[2016-03-08 13:40:58] rapidtrades : a conception failure?
[2016-03-08 13:41:26] arbitrage001 : when bitmex said all withdrawals are manual
[2016-03-08 13:41:27] Teddy76 : yes on her trading engine imo
[2016-03-08 13:41:39] arbitrage001 : they are trying to prevent this bugg
[2016-03-08 13:41:51] Teddy76 : which count trade twice
[2016-03-08 13:42:47] Teddy76 : arbitrage001: why not, hot wallet is not full secure
[2016-03-08 13:43:49] arbitrage001 : withdrawal is not use hot wallet security uissue
[2016-03-08 13:43:58] arbitrage001 : not just hot wallet
[2016-03-08 13:44:14] arbitrage001 : the accounting system needs to update properly
[2016-03-08 13:45:35] Teddy76 : huh?
[2016-03-08 13:45:49] arbitrage001 : never mind
[2016-03-08 13:45:56] arbitrage001 : pointless discussion
[2016-03-08 13:46:04] arbitrage001 : let's share how to make money instead
[2016-03-08 13:46:30] Teddy76 : lol nice try
[2016-03-08 13:47:05] Teddy76 : you don't?
[2016-03-08 13:48:01] Teddy76 : maybe not your full time job?
[2016-03-08 13:51:41] arbitrage001 : https://dashtalk.org/threads/wts-exchange-platform.1089/
[2016-03-08 13:51:50] arbitrage001 : used to sell this
[2016-03-08 13:51:57] arbitrage001 : 6 months late to the market
[2016-03-08 13:55:53] Teddy76 : your code?
[2016-03-08 13:56:59] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02447
[2016-03-08 14:03:18] arbitrage001 : architech
[2016-03-08 14:03:38] arbitrage001 : architect
[2016-03-08 15:02:58] rapidtrades : wtf is wrong with finex
[2016-03-08 15:03:28] rapidtrades : THIS SHIT EXCHANGE MAN
[2016-03-08 15:04:18] rapidtrades : i can't place any trades...are u kiding me
[2016-03-08 15:04:20] rapidtrades : u shore
[2016-03-08 15:04:23] rapidtrades : whore*
[2016-03-08 15:17:36] rapidtrades : sry about that, there was massive lag
[2016-03-08 15:28:26] Teddy76 : normal day @Bitmex when rapidtrades cry at shit exchange with caps
[2016-03-08 15:31:08] rapidtrades : yeah pretty normal :)
[2016-03-08 15:45:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.02358
[2016-03-08 18:42:18] ohmannomma : this is a racing exchange. i preferred the old arrangment of blocks tho.. and
[2016-03-08 18:42:27] ohmannomma : how can i isolate the margin on a positioin?
[2016-03-08 18:47:31] Teddy76 : the slide on the left of your screen normally
[2016-03-08 18:47:39] Teddy76 : "Leverage"
[2016-03-08 19:12:48] Teddy76 : strange finex crash
[2016-03-08 19:13:27] Teddy76 : but it's chinese who decide where we go
[2016-03-08 19:17:55] habibi : hey all, funny someone dumped 1k coins and almost 1k on buybook recovered minutes after between 410-406
[2016-03-08 19:18:28] Teddy76 : yes, i saw 870+ btc sold at 406 @BFX
[2016-03-08 19:18:58] Teddy76 : nice for buyer
[2016-03-08 20:25:01] splash : any mods here?
[2016-03-08 20:25:14] splash : i think u should create futs for factom tokens
[2016-03-08 20:28:07] splash : as far as i know, it's the only token out there that has a business model which isn't tied to a particular blockchain and where the business model isn't tied to the success of a particular blockchain.
[2016-03-08 20:28:48] splash : and that interface with the non-crypto world
[2016-03-08 20:28:54] splash : very unique
[2016-03-08 21:43:57] rapidtrades : good evening fellas
[2016-03-08 21:46:45] rapidtrades : god dam this market is frozen
[2016-03-08 22:03:42] splash : hi
[2016-03-08 22:03:43] splash : yup
[2016-03-08 22:06:55] maxalt : https://cryptobetfair.com/lounge.html *cough*
[2016-03-08 22:20:16] rapidtrades : maxalt: got a cold b1tch?
[2016-03-08 22:20:22] rapidtrades : don't bring that shit in here
[2016-03-08 22:23:15] maxalt : b b but my feels?
[2016-03-08 22:25:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 226 @ 0.02361
[2016-03-09 01:03:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 409.45
[2016-03-09 01:04:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 409.26
[2016-03-09 01:05:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 408.72
[2016-03-09 01:05:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 700 @ 408.69
[2016-03-09 01:08:59] rapidtrades : blackrock says china will institute capital controls instead devaluation
[2016-03-09 04:47:28] kingscrown : cheap mining of all algos: https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/707427359754952704
[2016-03-09 05:20:57] NukeLaloosh : ETH7D lagging Polo spot by around 2%, anyone know why?
[2016-03-09 05:34:31] odarn : hi guys im new here!
[2016-03-09 05:41:42] chromaticcr : welcome! pop questions here if you are having difficulties ;)
[2016-03-09 07:35:43] cocobear : hi, im also new, bump into bimex few days ago
[2016-03-09 07:38:47] cocobear : how well capitalized is bitmex exchange??
[2016-03-09 07:39:27] cocobear : since bitmex underwrite all the four contracts and they need to hedge the underlying
[2016-03-09 07:39:48] cocobear : such as China A50 contract
[2016-03-09 07:40:25] micmix : cocobear: they don't need to hedge anything, you are trading against counterparties and there are no delivery
[2016-03-09 07:41:48] BitMEX_Wally : This is correct. Although we do underwrite (i.e. guarantee settlement) for XBU contracts as they are for hedging
[2016-03-09 07:42:30] micmix : cocobear: technically you are trading forwards, not futures
[2016-03-09 07:43:08] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: A future is just a standardised, exchange traded, forward contract
[2016-03-09 07:44:41] micmix : IMHO bitcoin futures are closer to unregulated forwards traded on the exchange but it's just technicality
[2016-03-09 07:46:16] micmix : BitMEX_Wally knows better, it's his exchange :-)
[2016-03-09 07:46:17] BitMEX_Wally : The exchange is the central counterparty and our futures are cash settled
[2016-03-09 07:48:11] BitMEX_Wally : I think this forward = unregulated and future = regulated thing is just in the US
[2016-03-09 07:49:56] BitMEX_Wally : cocobear: You can trade 1 contract of `A50G16` with less than 0.04 XBT of margin, so give it a try
[2016-03-09 07:50:22] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: could be I'm mostly familiar with the US market
[2016-03-09 08:02:20] cocobear : testing
[2016-03-09 08:02:35] cocobear : tks for the explanations!
[2016-03-09 08:04:40] cocobear : BitMEX_Wally: your bitcoin-dominated exchange is very cool idea, not regulated by any SEC
[2016-03-09 08:28:18] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: How do you add volume values to the Y-axis on the charts?
[2016-03-09 08:32:54] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: You want axis labels?
[2016-03-09 08:33:14] elmorte : For volume, yes
[2016-03-09 08:33:18] elmorte : if possible
[2016-03-09 08:34:06] elmorte : Right now, the only way to see it is when you mouseover in full screen
[2016-03-09 08:36:50] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: I'll have to ask BitMEX_Sam when he's back in the office
[2016-03-09 08:37:09] elmorte : Ok cheers. Do you know what the volume figure refers to right now...it's in K, so is that "thousands of contracts"?
[2016-03-09 08:38:58] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-03-09 08:39:09] elmorte : Thx
[2016-03-09 10:51:33] rapidtrades : so the whore that is the market, decided to f me up again
[2016-03-09 10:52:05] rapidtrades : so i was doing some calcs and I decided to to lower my trading size cos ive experienced some slippage lately
[2016-03-09 10:59:23] Teddy76 : morning rapidtrades
[2016-03-09 10:59:35] Teddy76 : happy to see you still move markets :D
[2016-03-09 10:59:43] Teddy76 : love*
[2016-03-09 11:06:22] NukeLaloosh : rapidtrades: you an academy grad?
[2016-03-09 11:12:52] rapidtrades : no
[2016-03-09 11:21:16] zanza : u mean navel academy ?
[2016-03-09 11:21:20] zanza : naval
[2016-03-09 11:24:58] NukeLaloosh : that's one of the two that has 'plebs'
[2016-03-09 11:27:49] rapidtrades : okc spiking a bit
[2016-03-09 11:48:01] rapidtrades : okc/finex same prices as 20 mins yet index down 30 cents
[2016-03-09 11:48:08] rapidtrades : no manipulation here
[2016-03-09 11:58:11] rapidtrades : he's been selling on stamp
[2016-03-09 11:59:54] rapidtrades : no trades in 1h, good job
[2016-03-09 12:29:11] Teddy76 : it's because of AltFest ;)
[2016-03-09 14:32:02] rapidtrades : Euro idiots really defending 1.0950...
[2016-03-09 14:32:06] rapidtrades : let it go f*ckers
[2016-03-09 15:08:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 2553 @ 412.95
[2016-03-09 15:09:10] awann : Fee withdraw 0.0005 xbt?
[2016-03-09 15:10:02] mwalshe99 : anyone from support here?
[2016-03-09 15:10:07] mwalshe99 : my withdrawal is messed up
[2016-03-09 15:10:31] mwalshe99 : not getting confirmed by the network
[2016-03-09 15:10:41] mwalshe99 : listed as a non standard input
[2016-03-09 15:11:00] mwalshe99 : Wally?
[2016-03-09 15:11:42] arbitrage001 : same here
[2016-03-09 15:11:50] arbitrage001 : getting a long time for confirmation
[2016-03-09 15:12:12] awann : Helo,,,, withdraw bitmex fee 0.0005????
[2016-03-09 15:12:18] arbitrage001 : could be blockchain problem
[2016-03-09 15:12:22] mwalshe99 : im flying out of the country to the 3rd world in 6 hours
[2016-03-09 15:12:24] mwalshe99 : this is unacceptable
[2016-03-09 15:12:53] mwalshe99 : its not, its a problem with the trasnsaction
[2016-03-09 15:12:57] arbitrage001 : i have my pant down and the webcam girl waiting for payment for strip show
[2016-03-09 15:13:09] arbitrage001 : this is unacceptable also
[2016-03-09 15:13:44] arbitrage001 : awann: you can adjust the withdrawal fee
[2016-03-09 15:14:07] arbitrage001 : awann: if set too low, you risk transaction get cancelled by the network
[2016-03-09 15:21:07] awann : What fee 0.0005 btc? Yes or no,
[2016-03-09 15:21:24] tscha : withdrawal fee = 0.0005 btc, yes
[2016-03-09 15:21:31] j8 : keep in mind they're multisig transactions, so they're bigger than normal. i wouldn't go lower than 0.0005
[2016-03-09 15:21:45] awann : Okehhh thqnks
[2016-03-09 15:21:54] arbitrage001 : man
[2016-03-09 15:22:00] arbitrage001 : i set it to 0.0003
[2016-03-09 15:22:07] arbitrage001 : so how long i need to wait
[2016-03-09 15:22:33] mwalshe99 : im 0.0005 been waiting for over 2 hours
[2016-03-09 15:22:34] j8 : arbitrage001: dunno, looks like there was a burst of transactions the last hour or so also
[2016-03-09 15:23:07] j8 : it mostly depends on the number of inputs, which you can see in a block explorer
[2016-03-09 15:26:11] tscha : arbitrage001: I once waited 2 days with 0.0003 :)
[2016-03-09 15:32:41] mwalshe99 : what
[2016-03-09 15:32:41] mwalshe99 : the
[2016-03-09 15:32:42] mwalshe99 : fuck
[2016-03-09 15:32:45] mwalshe99 : i cant wait 2 days
[2016-03-09 15:32:59] mwalshe99 : i cant stress how bang out of order this is
[2016-03-09 15:36:53] arbitrage001 : same boat here
[2016-03-09 15:37:48] j8 : 2 days is pretty unusual.
[2016-03-09 15:40:20] BitMEX_Wally : There are currently 3 withdrawals that have not been confirmed by the networkyet
[2016-03-09 15:41:42] BitMEX_Wally : We use multi-signature P2SH transactions which are larger
[2016-03-09 15:42:54] BitMEX_Wally : They usually get confirmed within a few hours, but when the blocks are full on the network and there is a backlog, you need a high fee to get confirmed quickly
[2016-03-09 15:45:15] sleger : How long is Arthur banned from the chat ?
[2016-03-09 15:45:55] sleger : *chat for ?
[2016-03-09 15:48:31] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: I was not aware that he was banned?
[2016-03-09 15:50:01] sleger : yes just like rapid was
[2016-03-09 15:50:34] BitMEX_Wally : mwalshe99: I have re-broadcast your tx to a few more nodes, it was accepted as valid
[2016-03-09 16:04:09] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: what about mine?
[2016-03-09 16:04:36] arbitrage001 : still 0 confirmation
[2016-03-09 16:04:49] arbitrage001 : i just need 1 confirmation to be able to use it
[2016-03-09 16:09:54] BitMEX_Wally : arbitrage001: Yes I re-broadcast it too
[2016-03-09 16:10:11] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: ok ty
[2016-03-09 16:10:19] BitMEX_Wally : Unfortunately Bitcoin is a victim of its own success and blocks are full
[2016-03-09 16:12:29] BitMEX_Wally : There are currently 6 megabytes of transactions in the mempool ahead of yours
[2016-03-09 16:12:44] sleger : and you were cheap by lowering tx fee
[2016-03-09 16:14:12] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: The problem is that the user cannot predict the state of the mempool, or the size of the transaction
[2016-03-09 16:14:53] BitMEX_Wally : So we are working on a solution where the user pays a fixed fee to us, and then we put the correct fee on the tx
[2016-03-09 16:24:39] sleger : good idea
[2016-03-09 16:40:36] arbitrage001 : good idea
[2016-03-09 16:40:41] arbitrage001 : didnt know
[2016-03-09 16:40:44] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 8 @ 0.02624
[2016-03-09 16:41:01] arbitrage001 : wwas trying to save 0.0002 fee
[2016-03-09 16:41:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 250 @ 413.35
[2016-03-09 16:41:44] arbitrage001 : collecting pennies to buy my parents a nice meal
[2016-03-09 16:59:13] habibi : Import priv key to trezor,send tx with uncomfirmed funds with high enought fee,u will get comfirmation on both txs pretty fast
[2016-03-09 16:59:32] habibi : On Electrum* not trezor
[2016-03-09 17:00:54] habibi : So called Child pays for parents tx
[2016-03-09 17:06:50] mwalshe99 : Wally do you know how long until my transaction gets confirmed?
[2016-03-09 17:07:00] mwalshe99 : i'm leaving the country in a few hours and slightly concerned its not going to come through in time
[2016-03-09 17:07:12] mwalshe99 : also do you have a work-a-round so this doesn't happen again in the future?
[2016-03-09 17:15:55] BitMEX_Wally : mwalshe99: Unfortunately it is very hard to predict when it will get confirmed, it depends on the congestion of the mempool
[2016-03-09 17:16:23] BitMEX_Wally : We are definitely working on fixing this so it won't happen again
[2016-03-09 17:20:11] rapidtrades : I remember 1 yrs ago these multisig addresses were all the rage, every exchange had to use them or it wasn't safe...now we have to pay 4x fees and clog up the network with larger transactions....guess reddit didn't think this through
[2016-03-09 17:28:37] HowDoge : I keep getting logged out today :/
[2016-03-09 17:30:09] rapidtrades : yeah that logging out is annoying
[2016-03-09 17:30:25] rapidtrades : if u close the window for more then 1 min, u have to re-login
[2016-03-09 17:30:36] rapidtrades : also on every disconnect
[2016-03-09 17:31:36] rapidtrades : and every 24 hrs
[2016-03-09 17:44:40] mwalshe99 : whats the longest anyone has had to wait for one of these withdrawals?
[2016-03-09 18:15:09] habibi : 2 blocks since tx broadcasted
[2016-03-09 18:39:06] HowDoge : rapidtrades: this has only started happening today ?
[2016-03-09 18:39:32] BitMEX_Wally : mwalshe99: Your transaction has 4 block confirmations now
[2016-03-09 18:40:13] BitMEX_Wally : arbitrage001: Your transaction has 2 block confirmations now
[2016-03-09 18:40:36] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry for the inconvenience
[2016-03-09 19:45:35] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: thank you, wally
[2016-03-09 20:31:28] BTCDJS : arbitrage001: 15:12 - arbitrage001: i have my pant down and the webcam girl waiting for payment for strip show LMAO ?
[2016-03-09 20:40:31] splash : if I buy XBT Daily 100x, will the roll over kill me?
[2016-03-09 20:44:23] BTCDJS : splash: buy on daily roll and it will run 24h and roll another 24h and then end. but i don't think it will kill you. its pretty easy going and it doesnt look homicidal ;)l
[2016-03-09 20:51:01] splash : ;)
[2016-03-09 20:51:11] splash : i was thinking about the fees :D
[2016-03-09 20:53:45] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02726
[2016-03-09 20:54:44] splash : what's up with the massive btc vol on kraken the last few days?
[2016-03-09 20:55:45] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 651 @ 0.02756
[2016-03-09 20:55:55] habibi : eth?
[2016-03-09 20:56:19] splash : habibi: btcusd
[2016-03-09 20:56:27] splash : oh
[2016-03-09 20:56:30] splash : now i understand
[2016-03-09 20:56:33] splash : yea could be
[2016-03-09 20:56:35] habibi : good! :)
[2016-03-09 20:56:52] splash : i feel like i missed the eth rally
[2016-03-09 20:57:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.02798 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-09 20:57:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.02813
[2016-03-09 20:57:15] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-03-09 20:57:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.02815
[2016-03-09 20:57:17] Szoke : ETH
[2016-03-09 20:57:42] Mangalica : ETH wrecking ball
[2016-03-09 21:07:39] rapidtrades : i f hate eth man
[2016-03-09 21:07:56] rapidtrades : we won't catch a break until that shitcoin dies
[2016-03-09 21:08:28] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you'll be sorry you didn't invest brah
[2016-03-09 21:08:36] Szoke : yeah moon and everything
[2016-03-09 21:09:23] habibi : cooler for hot dreamers https://medium.com/@bedeho/why-your-ethereum-project-will-most-likely-fail-d14b6d8f1c7c
[2016-03-09 21:09:41] Szoke : we're all gonna be rich ™
[2016-03-09 21:09:43] yerb : hopium is a powerful drug
[2016-03-09 21:11:37] rapidtrades : etherium is the obama of altcoins
[2016-03-09 21:16:07] rapidtrades : is still don't get the point of that 24/48 contract or whatever
[2016-03-09 21:16:12] rapidtrades : when is that coming out
[2016-03-09 21:17:53] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: if you bought 4BTC worth of ETH at crowdsale and held on to it till now. you would have £95000+
[2016-03-09 21:18:09] BTCDJS : my only regret is that i was too late
[2016-03-09 21:18:38] habibi : 61k in funds if u used symbol u wanted
[2016-03-09 21:19:06] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: u think that's bad? i knew about bitcoin about 6m-1 yr after it came out, could've CPU mined millions,,,,like literally
[2016-03-09 21:19:38] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: its a damn shame man. a damn shame
[2016-03-09 21:20:28] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: it's not a shame cos 1. i prolly wouldn't have held it till now 2. u can't go around life throwing time&money to any crazy idea on the off chance it might work
[2016-03-09 21:21:25] BTCDJS : erm a lot of people did just that and look a them now
[2016-03-09 21:22:00] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: a lot of the early adopters cashed out way too early...then a ton for suckered into the mtgox fiasco
[2016-03-09 21:22:15] rapidtrades : ppl that have money drop in their lap don't usually keep it
[2016-03-09 21:22:45] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: well i was referring to some folks i know who bought eth and HODL
[2016-03-09 21:23:20] BTCDJS : they bought more than 4BTC worth. 4BTC was what i was going to invest but was too late
[2016-03-09 21:23:56] BTCDJS : I get point no1 though. I held 1150 ETH and sold before the pump
[2016-03-09 21:24:30] BTCDJS : what a fucking douchebag move that was lol
[2016-03-09 21:24:34] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: ofc u did...and ppl that didn't sell too early prolly held 100 other coins that came down to 0
[2016-03-09 21:25:23] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: yeah i see where you're coming from. shoulda woulda coulda is pointless but still
[2016-03-09 21:25:34] Mangalica : did ETH news come out or something?
[2016-03-09 21:25:46] BTCDJS : Mangalica: recently?
[2016-03-09 21:25:57] BTCDJS : homestead was released
[2016-03-09 21:26:11] BTCDJS : ethereum.org
[2016-03-09 21:26:22] habibi : wasnt
[2016-03-09 21:26:22] rapidtrades : SPAM
[2016-03-09 21:26:48] habibi : i mean there was no hardfork still right?
[2016-03-09 21:27:06] rapidtrades : god i hope that hard fork goes horribly horribly wrong
[2016-03-09 21:27:15] BTCDJS : habibi: go to ethereum.org. i don't know about hard fork
[2016-03-09 21:27:19] rapidtrades : with some many idiots buying into eth, wouldn't surprise me
[2016-03-09 21:27:32] habibi : BTCDJS: so what u know :D?
[2016-03-09 21:28:24] BTCDJS : habibi: nothing. Im just a pleb
[2016-03-09 21:29:24] BTCDJS : I know eth is up 18% on polo since launch
[2016-03-09 21:30:40] habibi : people saying this site launched yesterday
[2016-03-09 21:31:14] BTCDJS : habibi: thats when i found people posting it on twitter
[2016-03-09 21:31:26] habibi : nvm then, who cares anyway :p
[2016-03-09 21:32:00] BTCDJS : habibi: not you. thats for sure
[2016-03-09 21:32:22] habibi : i dont care about new website coz this is homestead according to ur info :p
[2016-03-09 21:32:54] BTCDJS : but I'm long eth since 0.023 since yesterday on polo
[2016-03-09 21:33:08] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: on margin?
[2016-03-09 21:33:14] BTCDJS : no spot
[2016-03-09 21:33:59] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: yeah i know its spot, did u borrow btc
[2016-03-09 21:34:15] BTCDJS : No i deposited my own
[2016-03-09 21:34:25] rapidtrades : curious what's the going % rate
[2016-03-09 21:34:46] BTCDJS : Im also long VNL XRP STR
[2016-03-09 21:35:08] BTCDJS : I never borrow so i don't know mate
[2016-03-09 21:39:14] BTCDJS : sold ETH now
[2016-03-09 21:49:37] rapidtrades : so $1 premium? largest i've seen all week
[2016-03-09 21:49:49] rapidtrades : hopefully signals coming volatility
[2016-03-09 21:49:52] rapidtrades : or smth
[2016-03-09 22:27:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.02916
[2016-03-09 23:53:50] rapidtrades : MOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[2016-03-09 23:56:08] rapidtrades : anyone using excel spreadsheets for backtesting?
[2016-03-10 00:23:13] rapidtrades : whenever some idiot posts ''I want to quit forex'' post on fx forum, 300 ppl jump in to give him ideas just to prove him wrong
[2016-03-10 00:25:55] rapidtrades : great way to get answers imo
[2016-03-10 00:26:12] rapidtrades : hmmm maybe that's what that stefan guy was doing here?
[2016-03-10 02:38:27] NukeLaloosh : rapidtrades: the $1 premium of which you speak is versus what?