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[2016-03-05 21:59:31] splash : i wouldnt be too surprised
[2016-03-05 22:00:04] rapidtrades : what was that betting site
[2016-03-05 22:00:11] rapidtrades : that had the odds of exchanges going down
[2016-03-05 22:00:34] rapidtrades : run by that romanian guy
[2016-03-05 22:00:56] splash : yup
[2016-03-05 22:01:12] splash : darn it. i _have_ to go to bed, so i will miss the eth crash :-/
[2016-03-05 22:01:40] splash : about midnight now, so that will mark the end of the day
[2016-03-05 22:02:26] rapidtrades : https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/
[2016-03-05 22:03:19] splash : lol
[2016-03-05 22:03:37] splash : i think gavin is legit still. hearn have always been the same so nothing new there
[2016-03-05 22:04:03] splash : gavin is far to eager to call bitcoin an experiment though.
[2016-03-05 22:09:45] rapidtrades : all the bitcoin bets on that site are for up
[2016-03-05 22:11:30] rapidtrades : Payments of all bets currently suspended due to Chinese miner collusion
[2016-03-05 22:11:32] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-03-05 22:13:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.02935
[2016-03-05 22:14:14] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 276 @ 0.02911
[2016-03-05 22:15:14] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.02813
[2016-03-05 22:15:34] bassius : lel
[2016-03-05 22:15:38] habibi : jung1: easy money
[2016-03-05 22:15:40] habibi : buhahahahahahahahha
[2016-03-05 22:15:54] rapidtrades : that's nothing yet
[2016-03-05 22:16:51] habibi : i knew it it was a great indicator
[2016-03-05 22:18:01] GurungBoi : habibi: i knew it it was a great indicator what was
[2016-03-05 22:19:27] habibi : people saying eth long is free money and safest bet ever
[2016-03-05 22:23:57] GurungBoi : that's what everyone said btc went to 1k
[2016-03-05 22:23:57] GurungBoi : lool
[2016-03-05 22:28:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.02789
[2016-03-05 23:14:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 810 @ 0.02814
[2016-03-05 23:20:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 399.49
[2016-03-05 23:20:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5000 @ 399.43
[2016-03-05 23:20:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 249 @ 399.64
[2016-03-05 23:20:38] tscha : BOOM
[2016-03-05 23:20:55] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-03-05 23:20:55] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4 @ 396.20 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-05 23:21:13] rapidtrades : no boom, its just finex
[2016-03-05 23:21:48] tscha : yeah, only finex... so everybody lean back
[2016-03-05 23:23:59] GurungBoi : bitmex btc uses finex?
[2016-03-05 23:24:34] tscha : GurungBoi: No, Bitmex uses this index as underlying: https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/
[2016-03-05 23:28:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 48 @ 0.02782
[2016-03-05 23:31:57] GurungBoi : tyty
[2016-03-05 23:32:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 26 @ 0.02748
[2016-03-05 23:33:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 48 @ 0.02680
[2016-03-05 23:33:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1755 @ 0.02691
[2016-03-05 23:35:19] habibi : how it was? safest bet ever :D?
[2016-03-05 23:47:30] GurungBoi : =/ i wish i kept my short at 0.03
[2016-03-06 00:07:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 15 @ 0.02793
[2016-03-06 00:12:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1390 @ 0.02669
[2016-03-06 00:36:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4 @ 396.01 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-06 00:40:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.02798 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-06 01:11:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 7676 @ 393.50
[2016-03-06 01:12:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 9 @ 394.39
[2016-03-06 01:13:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 6000 @ 393.40
[2016-03-06 01:24:18] GurungBoi : quick question the liq price is based on
[2016-03-06 01:24:22] GurungBoi : bitmex or polo? o O
[2016-03-06 01:24:43] rapidtrades : for eth it should follow polo
[2016-03-06 01:24:50] GurungBoi : ahh
[2016-03-06 01:24:56] GurungBoi : thanks rapidtrades
[2016-03-06 01:25:21] rapidtrades : cos mark price=settlement price=polo price
[2016-03-06 01:25:35] rapidtrades : and liqs are done on mark
[2016-03-06 01:26:35] GurungBoi : interesting
[2016-03-06 01:26:35] GurungBoi : thanks!
[2016-03-06 01:36:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.02862
[2016-03-06 01:37:42] micmix : I can't understand how people can use 15x isolated margin on something like ETH that moves 30% per day
[2016-03-06 01:37:52] habibi : 25x
[2016-03-06 01:37:54] habibi : :)
[2016-03-06 01:38:11] micmix : oh yeah, it's 25x now, crazy :-)
[2016-03-06 01:38:30] habibi : micmix: u are mm that market?
[2016-03-06 01:39:05] micmix : no, too scary for me :-)
[2016-03-06 01:40:01] rapidtrades : it's a mini-miracle there has been no dpe yet
[2016-03-06 01:40:20] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceHistory :D
[2016-03-06 01:40:23] rapidtrades : guess everyone's long :)
[2016-03-06 01:40:27] habibi : i bet its coz of eth :D
[2016-03-06 01:40:32] habibi : from 7 btc to 11
[2016-03-06 01:40:58] rapidtrades : wait a min...are we sharing the fund with that shitcoin
[2016-03-06 01:41:19] habibi : hah totally but i think its brings some money to fund as well
[2016-03-06 01:41:31] habibi : but eventually it can wipe out whole fund on one single big dump/pump
[2016-03-06 01:41:41] rapidtrades : yeah f*ck eth
[2016-03-06 01:41:44] sleger : rapidtrades: good point
[2016-03-06 01:41:54] sleger : damn I never thought I would say that
[2016-03-06 01:42:10] sleger : thanks god its not habibi who brought it up
[2016-03-06 01:42:14] rapidtrades : altho if that shitcoin crashes btc will likely go up, so we wont get dpe, prolly
[2016-03-06 01:42:28] habibi : sleger: still like u :)
[2016-03-06 01:44:13] sleger : rapidtrades: at least 0kcoin has separate funds for ltc and btc
[2016-03-06 01:45:20] rapidtrades : yeah...one time i got clawed 52% on ltc, so that didn't work out good for me :)
[2016-03-06 01:46:25] zanza : Bitstamp hit 382
[2016-03-06 01:46:35] rapidtrades : earlier or now
[2016-03-06 01:46:40] habibi : nice lag zanza
[2016-03-06 01:46:46] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-03-06 01:47:03] zanza : ... must have been a margin call ?
[2016-03-06 01:47:12] rapidtrades : zanza just woke up :)
[2016-03-06 01:47:28] habibi : suprise zanza
[2016-03-06 01:47:30] zanza : ...
[2016-03-06 01:47:39] habibi : birthday present!
[2016-03-06 01:47:42] zanza : you guys are harsh
[2016-03-06 01:48:10] sleger : rapidtrades: yes in the US it's still early right ?
[2016-03-06 01:48:11] habibi : zanza: above or under?
[2016-03-06 01:48:39] zanza : above or under what habibi?
[2016-03-06 01:48:48] habibi : zanza: above 20 contracts or under got liquidated?
[2016-03-06 01:49:20] rapidtrades : finex is still dragging us down man
[2016-03-06 01:49:22] zanza : the Bitstamp volume was about 5k when it hit 382 several hours ago
[2016-03-06 01:50:39] zanza : looks like someone had a stoploss at $400 and it got popped
[2016-03-06 01:55:16] rapidtrades : our march is now lower then okc
[2016-03-06 01:56:15] habibi : didnt even noticed, it tanked under 400 even
[2016-03-06 01:57:55] sleger : rapidtrades: the premium is higher though
[2016-03-06 01:58:06] rapidtrades : yeah
[2016-03-06 01:58:15] sleger : they just dont use the same index and btccny has big premium now
[2016-03-06 01:58:41] rapidtrades : yes....chinese still bullish
[2016-03-06 02:07:29] sleger : or lagging, or they dont believe in eth as much
[2016-03-06 02:08:19] rapidtrades : f*ckers they killed our rally I'll make sure to kill theirs
[2016-03-06 02:09:14] rapidtrades : ok that's an empty threat but it felt good to let it out
[2016-03-06 02:09:22] sleger : thats what i thought
[2016-03-06 02:09:39] sleger : what is he gonna do, put his d**k on his shoulder on go on a cruisade ?
[2016-03-06 02:14:07] rapidtrades : yeah i'll f*ck some sense into etherium hodlers
[2016-03-06 02:16:12] rapidtrades : how are u positioned fellas? tiny long here
[2016-03-06 02:17:19] zanza : I think we may see $200's again, there seems to be a lot of drama coming
[2016-03-06 02:17:38] zanza : Blocks getting full, Classic vs Core, transaction backlog, and now ETH seems promising
[2016-03-06 02:18:00] habibi : out of positions again, scalping eth when there is bigger violatily
[2016-03-06 02:18:50] habibi : zanza: funny how u say same thing in 3 ways
[2016-03-06 02:19:37] rapidtrades : he's giving us the same narratives
[2016-03-06 02:20:14] rapidtrades : i don't buy into them but pa looks neutral to bearish
[2016-03-06 02:20:44] sleger : still flat although trying to take some profits on some contracts vs others
[2016-03-06 02:22:29] rapidtrades : maybe a prolonged range now? we've had abnormal volatility since october
[2016-03-06 02:23:36] sleger : i m thinking about some bets for after
[2016-03-06 02:23:45] sleger : but now time to go to club
[2016-03-06 02:24:11] rapidtrades : golf club? lol
[2016-03-06 02:24:52] rapidtrades : yacht club?
[2016-03-06 02:25:16] sleger : night club ...
[2016-03-06 02:25:28] rapidtrades : i thought u were 58
[2016-03-06 02:25:31] sleger : in long vacation week end right now
[2016-03-06 02:25:32] rapidtrades : and asian
[2016-03-06 02:25:40] sleger : yeah wrong bets then
[2016-03-06 02:26:08] sleger : althought i've seen 58 asian guys in the same clubs sometimes...
[2016-03-06 02:26:21] habibi : are muslims suppose to not go to that kind of places?
[2016-03-06 02:26:36] rapidtrades : habibi: yeah maybe it's kosher
[2016-03-06 02:26:44] rapidtrades : isis-sponsored
[2016-03-06 02:27:13] habibi : anyway have good time then sleger, dont spent too much on that shitty drinks there
[2016-03-06 02:27:22] zanza : lol
[2016-03-06 02:27:42] rapidtrades : that remark prolly put this chat under surveillance, sorry fellas
[2016-03-06 02:27:44] sleger : it's probably a 3k kind of night though
[2016-03-06 02:28:23] sleger : gonna sell some more h16 before to cover it maybe :D
[2016-03-06 02:28:24] habibi : don't pay directly via bitcoins coz u will ruin the market:)
[2016-03-06 02:28:38] sleger : i dont think they take btc
[2016-03-06 02:28:57] rapidtrades : oh isis takes btc don#t worry
[2016-03-06 02:29:06] sleger : im in miami today
[2016-03-06 02:29:09] habibi : xapo or some others btc debit cards with high commisions
[2016-03-06 02:29:33] sleger : habibi: dont worry i only make sepa from my cny accounts ;)
[2016-03-06 02:29:47] habibi : u are the one who do! :)
[2016-03-06 02:30:21] sleger : i didnt know it was possible until you told me so
[2016-03-06 02:30:32] sleger : went to universal florida today, it's pretty fun
[2016-03-06 02:30:51] rapidtrades : Disneyland?
[2016-03-06 02:30:54] sleger : first time ever, got sun burned of course
[2016-03-06 02:31:01] sleger : no, universal is not disney
[2016-03-06 02:31:07] sleger : it's universal
[2016-03-06 02:31:24] sleger : rented a viper from miami, cause i had never tried that shit
[2016-03-06 02:31:28] rapidtrades : so like a shittty version of Disneyland, got it
[2016-03-06 02:31:30] sleger : and it really sucks....
[2016-03-06 02:31:46] sleger : no its apparently better, but never been to disney so cant tell for sure
[2016-03-06 02:31:55] sleger : and now going to LIV with friends
[2016-03-06 02:32:09] rapidtrades : this f guy....can't tell if he's BSing us or for real
[2016-03-06 02:32:45] zanza : slegeer on vacation in Florida?
[2016-03-06 02:32:47] sleger : renting that car probably cost me only 500usd or so , so i def wouldnt bullshit for so little
[2016-03-06 02:32:54] sleger : zanza: yep until tomorrow
[2016-03-06 02:33:07] zanza : Florida is nice weather this time of year
[2016-03-06 02:33:15] sleger : actually quite cold this week end
[2016-03-06 02:33:16] rapidtrades : $500 for a joyride is a lot of money
[2016-03-06 02:33:31] sleger : apparently bad luck though, it was only 23C at universal today
[2016-03-06 02:33:43] zanza : wow
[2016-03-06 02:33:47] rapidtrades : isn't that the perfect temperature
[2016-03-06 02:34:08] sleger : and when your gf really HAS TO do the ride at jurassic park that gets you super wet at 5pm when its getting colder, well.... not cool
[2016-03-06 02:34:19] zanza : /r/BTC is basically /r/Buttcoin now https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4926mw/aaaannndd_we_are_below_400/
[2016-03-06 02:34:21] sleger : the viper warms that up pretty quick
[2016-03-06 02:34:24] zanza : lol, thats brutal sleger
[2016-03-06 02:34:34] zanza : getting wet at evening
[2016-03-06 02:34:43] sleger : but it really sucks to drive
[2016-03-06 02:35:30] sleger : no fun, and the lady side has the exhaust and if you're not carful (which she wasnt) you can really burn yourself against it ...
[2016-03-06 02:35:45] zanza : is that a Turbo ?
[2016-03-06 02:35:54] rapidtrades : yeah they're never careful
[2016-03-06 02:36:04] zanza : holy fk, 600 hp ?
[2016-03-06 02:36:23] zanza : MPG: 12 city / 21 highway
[2016-03-06 02:36:41] sleger : i dont think its a turbo but i dont know for sure
[2016-03-06 02:36:43] rapidtrades : Yep, I saw it coming and sold half of my coins because I don't think it will get better short term. It's pathetic actually, I sold coins that I kept for 2+ years. Coins I bought when the price was around 600-800$, but I kept them all the time, because of Bitcoins fundamentals, even when price dropped close to 150$.
[2016-03-06 02:37:00] rapidtrades : ^^^ bagholder rationalizes getting out on a spike
[2016-03-06 02:37:21] sleger : it s just the same from 1.5krpm to the red zone
[2016-03-06 02:37:28] sleger : *almost* the same
[2016-03-06 02:38:09] sleger : yeah its close to 600hp but it doesnt feel as much because its heavy and i would never dare pushing it down a curve
[2016-03-06 02:38:28] sleger : i have a lotus exige for tonight and tomorrow
[2016-03-06 02:38:34] sleger : much less hp but much more fun
[2016-03-06 02:38:40] zanza : wow you must be a very good trader :)
[2016-03-06 02:38:46] sleger : and much cheaper to rent
[2016-03-06 02:40:09] sleger : and yes the viper had to be refilled every 2-3 hours
[2016-03-06 02:40:10] rapidtrades : are u getting married or what
[2016-03-06 02:40:15] sleger : but gas is so cheap there
[2016-03-06 02:40:31] sleger : nah not yet
[2016-03-06 02:40:53] rapidtrades : what are u doing there with gf&friends
[2016-03-06 02:41:12] sleger : she has friends there too, so tonight she's with them, and im with friends
[2016-03-06 02:41:28] rapidtrades : wait ur American?
[2016-03-06 02:41:33] sleger : but today we went together to universal
[2016-03-06 02:41:36] sleger : no im french
[2016-03-06 02:41:50] rapidtrades : sleger: mark?
[2016-03-06 02:41:56] sleger : me and friends flew from france
[2016-03-06 02:41:59] zanza : Florida night club = rap video
[2016-03-06 02:42:10] rapidtrades : what....i thought u lived in asia
[2016-03-06 02:42:11] sleger : liv is not ghetto
[2016-03-06 02:42:15] zanza : Bitmex may ban you if you use USA IP address
[2016-03-06 02:42:19] sleger : no i never said i did
[2016-03-06 02:42:35] habibi : zanza: vpn vpn, i bet he use all time
[2016-03-06 02:42:46] zanza : lol
[2016-03-06 02:42:47] sleger : zanza: traveling is allowed, and so are vpns, not sure why you;re saying that
[2016-03-06 02:43:10] sleger : habibi: i connected to company network almost all of the time
[2016-03-06 02:43:20] sleger : *I am
[2016-03-06 02:43:21] habibi : still kinda vpn :)
[2016-03-06 02:43:33] sleger : well it IS vpn
[2016-03-06 02:43:35] rapidtrades : what company...ur working for Goldman Sachs aren't u
[2016-03-06 02:44:04] sleger : let s just say no, but im also not going to answer any other question, because ultimately you might figure it out
[2016-03-06 02:44:17] sleger : if you exhaust all possibility
[2016-03-06 02:44:27] habibi : deutche bank!
[2016-03-06 02:44:29] sleger : i dont think GS allows traders vpn access anyways
[2016-03-06 02:44:34] sleger : i would be really surprised
[2016-03-06 02:44:39] rapidtrades : well u prolly work in finance since u said earlier u made ur money with salary
[2016-03-06 02:44:44] sleger : it's not a bank obviously
[2016-03-06 02:45:19] sleger : I could own a company and pay myself a salary.... it doesnt matter that s just a detail
[2016-03-06 02:45:35] sleger : rapidtrades: finance people make money more with bonus though
[2016-03-06 02:46:02] rapidtrades : yeah but ur french, the only job u could make 100ks is finance
[2016-03-06 02:46:25] rapidtrades : programmers make what 50k in europe
[2016-03-06 02:47:02] sleger : in average yes
[2016-03-06 02:47:22] sleger : but if you're making money there is no limit
[2016-03-06 02:47:37] sleger : there is not "100ks" limit
[2016-03-06 02:48:04] rapidtrades : talking about trading?
[2016-03-06 02:48:50] rapidtrades : r/btc is like the zerohedge of bitcoin
[2016-03-06 02:49:04] sleger : yes
[2016-03-06 02:49:36] sleger : i make nowhere close to 100k
[2016-03-06 02:50:36] rapidtrades : right, u got ur capital with salary and now ur trading it up?
[2016-03-06 02:52:19] sleger : no i meant nowhere close as in much more
[2016-03-06 02:52:33] habibi : we totally know what u meant sleger
[2016-03-06 02:52:34] habibi : :D
[2016-03-06 02:52:43] rapidtrades : yeah ^
[2016-03-06 02:53:09] sleger : rapidtrades: you said you were not british before right ?
[2016-03-06 02:53:18] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-03-06 02:53:27] sleger : and not living in london either ?
[2016-03-06 02:53:32] rapidtrades : no
[2016-03-06 02:54:08] sleger : ok ok just wondering, going there in few weeks to hire some folks so was wondering
[2016-03-06 02:54:54] rapidtrades : nah man...maybe i'll be in malta by then :)
[2016-03-06 02:55:03] rapidtrades : haven't decided yet
[2016-03-06 02:57:55] rapidtrades : china going full retard http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/mar/04/china-bans-gay-people-television-clampdown-xi-jinping-censorship
[2016-03-06 03:00:44] sleger : ok guys enjoy your night
[2016-03-06 03:04:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.02793
[2016-03-06 03:04:29] zanza : later sleger
[2016-03-06 03:08:32] salcon : всем привет
[2016-03-06 03:20:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.02774
[2016-03-06 04:41:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 140 @ 0.02806
[2016-03-06 05:00:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 397.01
[2016-03-06 05:01:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 395.91
[2016-03-06 05:02:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 2000 @ 395.14
[2016-03-06 05:10:44] jung1 : http://imgur.com/3lIcLd2
[2016-03-06 05:39:01] yerb : what happens when my contracts expire and im still in position, is it just new fee calculated or what?
[2016-03-06 05:39:59] BitMEX_Wally : yerb: If you hold a position until expiry then it is closed at the settlement price and you pay the settlement fee which is 0.05%
[2016-03-06 05:47:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 280 @ 397.66
[2016-03-06 05:47:37] yerb : so my position is closed, i can not hold my position for more days on daily?
[2016-03-06 05:48:15] jung1 : yerb: daily is 24h
[2016-03-06 05:48:24] jung1 : daily roll is 48h
[2016-03-06 05:48:35] jung1 : every friday is 7d
[2016-03-06 05:48:44] jung1 : and 2 and 6 months then
[2016-03-06 05:48:56] yerb : i see
[2016-03-06 05:48:57] jung1 : count since 13:00 utc
[2016-03-06 05:52:44] jung1 : factom is up over 75% today
[2016-03-06 05:53:19] chromaticcr : and from monday (UTC) you will be able to transfer your XBT24H contract to settle in the next day by buying XBT24H_XBT48H rolling calendar contract
[2016-03-06 05:53:48] jung1 : in 1:1 ratio?
[2016-03-06 05:53:56] jung1 : or how it will works?
[2016-03-06 05:54:10] chromaticcr : https://blog.bitmex.com/crypto-trader-digest-29-feb/
[2016-03-06 05:57:32] yerb : so upon expiry my position gets automatically closed? or i just pay the fee and my position stays open, i guess i dot't get it
[2016-03-06 05:58:11] chromaticcr : this is a futures contract platform, which means every contract must be settled to the counterparty in a predefined future time
[2016-03-06 05:58:42] yerb : so what happens with my position
[2016-03-06 05:58:47] chromaticcr : the rolling contract is just another derivative that find a counterparty to take the opposit side of your position
[2016-03-06 05:59:05] chromaticcr : you position is settled at the settlement price with your counterparty
[2016-03-06 05:59:28] yerb : so it gets closed or not?
[2016-03-06 05:59:37] chromaticcr : yes
[2016-03-06 05:59:50] yerb : ok
[2016-03-06 06:00:44] yerb : and what is the difference between closing it myself or by the exchange?
[2016-03-06 06:02:13] chromaticcr : you can choose your price when you close it yourself, and perhaps open another position somewhere (eg: XBT48H, the next day contract). If the exchange closes it for you at settlement. They have a settlement index to follow and they will close exactly at the index's price
[2016-03-06 06:03:14] chromaticcr : for example, XBT24H is settled at the 30 minutes time weighted value before the settlement (just a smart way to prevent manipulation of the index price)
[2016-03-06 06:05:33] yerb : where can i see the index price?
[2016-03-06 06:35:04] BitMEX_Sam : yerb: Indices can be seen in the help section, and is linked in the contract details
[2016-03-06 06:35:13] BitMEX_Sam : E.g. https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT30M
[2016-03-06 06:44:10] splash : im really good at TA but not that good at trading
[2016-03-06 06:44:26] splash : when i look at charts, in hindsight i always know what to do
[2016-03-06 06:44:35] chromaticcr : practice makes perfect ;)
[2016-03-06 06:44:40] splash : but when trading, i have lot of bad luck
[2016-03-06 06:44:48] splash : :D
[2016-03-06 06:45:45] chromaticcr : too much leverage perhaps?
[2016-03-06 06:48:13] jung1 : too greedy
[2016-03-06 06:57:11] jung1 : btw
[2016-03-06 06:57:12] jung1 : with that trend maid have chance to go 0.00xx eas
[2016-03-06 06:57:16] jung1 : easy
[2016-03-06 07:10:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 21 @ 0.02811
[2016-03-06 07:17:01] splash : REKT: are you a bot?
[2016-03-06 07:17:29] splash : REKT: I very much think you are
[2016-03-06 07:17:41] splash : u display typical bot behaviour
[2016-03-06 07:24:43] jung1 : splash: clever guy
[2016-03-06 07:26:07] splash : jung1: do u think rekt is clever?
[2016-03-06 07:29:33] chromaticcr : i guess clever is relative ;)
[2016-03-06 07:33:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.02856 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-06 07:44:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 4 @ 399.18 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-06 08:33:40] kb1985 : So anyone had success in withdrawing coins from BitMex? Doesn't seem to be workig for me.
[2016-03-06 08:34:35] kb1985 : Oh, OK, they do it one time per day only manually.
[2016-03-06 08:35:04] chromaticcr : cut-off 1 hour after settlement, sent within 2 hrs after stlm
[2016-03-06 08:35:48] chromaticcr : They use multisig, moneys gotta be signed by the BitMEX guys... tradeoff for security.. yeah...
[2016-03-06 08:36:37] BitMEX_Sam : kb1985: Yes, we process them by hand every day
[2016-03-06 08:36:40] BitMEX_Sam : Each withdrawal involves a manual review
[2016-03-06 08:37:15] BitMEX_Sam : Given that historically, the weakest link in crypto exchanges is in the hot wallet, we've chosen to eliminate that risk entirely
[2016-03-06 08:37:38] BitMEX_Sam : The majority of our traders appreciate the stability this affords, despite that it is inconvenient
[2016-03-06 08:38:19] kb1985 : That's fine with me. In how many hours we can expect new withdrawals?
[2016-03-06 08:39:07] BitMEX_Sam : kb1985: It happens every day at 13 UTC, which gives a 1 hour gap between settlement and withdrawals, so traders can withdraw profits if desired
[2016-03-06 08:39:14] BitMEX_Sam : So that means 4h20min from now
[2016-03-06 08:39:22] kb1985 : Thx!
[2016-03-06 08:48:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.02882
[2016-03-06 09:28:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 8 @ 401.49
[2016-03-06 09:30:58] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 600 @ 403.05
[2016-03-06 10:04:12] jung1 : maid looks like good deal imo
[2016-03-06 10:16:07] micmix : jung1: yep, it's only up 4x, surely will be up 10x like all alts
[2016-03-06 10:16:34] wilan1409 : any chinese?
[2016-03-06 10:16:44] micmix : 100% easy money no risk at all :-)
[2016-03-06 10:17:18] habibi : even more safer bet than eth :D
[2016-03-06 10:17:27] habibi : more safe* or safer?
[2016-03-06 10:17:32] habibi : safer i bet
[2016-03-06 10:17:50] micmix : well it's called maidsafe for a reason :-)
[2016-03-06 10:18:52] habibi : bubble trading lel
[2016-03-06 10:33:08] micmix : bitstamp is weird today, went all the way down to 382, now $3 higher than finex
[2016-03-06 10:53:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 68 @ 0.02829
[2016-03-06 10:59:08] chromaticcr : wilan1409: 你好
[2016-03-06 10:59:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.02807
[2016-03-06 10:59:55] habibi : kb1985: how is ur eth?
[2016-03-06 11:00:13] chromaticcr : #newFloor
[2016-03-06 11:00:54] habibi : "so we have floor at 0.03" :D
[2016-03-06 11:01:37] chromaticcr : habibi: I can assure you that standing on top of the rooftop is safe
[2016-03-06 11:01:51] chromaticcr : on the*
[2016-03-06 11:02:19] habibi : totally agree, safest thing ever
[2016-03-06 11:03:23] chromaticcr : There was even a 2% lending demand (which I filled yesterday)
[2016-03-06 11:03:43] chromaticcr : on polo
[2016-03-06 11:03:45] habibi : micmix: u lending a lot of on polo right?
[2016-03-06 11:04:21] micmix : habibi: I'm mostly shorting spikes on polo
[2016-03-06 11:04:39] habibi : micmix: didnt u get burn a little on that eth ?
[2016-03-06 11:04:49] chromaticcr : quite stable at 0.4% for like a while today
[2016-03-06 11:05:36] micmix : habibi: no but I had to transfer more coins to keep good entry price on my short
[2016-03-06 11:05:53] habibi : yea quite crazy move
[2016-03-06 11:06:00] chromaticcr : habibi: other crapcoin's lending rate is quite acceptable too
[2016-03-06 11:06:13] chromaticcr : shouldnt be too much a burden for mic
[2016-03-06 11:06:33] habibi : but eth ledning book doesnt look pretty overused right?
[2016-03-06 11:07:03] micmix : had to close a bit of my short at 10% loss on the first drop to 0.02
[2016-03-06 11:08:07] micmix : stupid polo doesn't allow to place any orders when you get below 40% margin, even to reduce your position
[2016-03-06 11:08:46] habibi : u cant close ur short when u go below 40%?
[2016-03-06 11:09:05] chromaticcr : I guess they dont wanna get defaults, playing the safe way... which isnt like finex where defaults had happend and finex filled the hole
[2016-03-06 11:09:22] habibi : but u can add more coins to cover position right? so u go above 40%
[2016-03-06 11:09:34] micmix : you can close all of it but can't place buy order to reduce the size of your short
[2016-03-06 11:09:47] habibi : lel, strange
[2016-03-06 11:09:49] chromaticcr : .... lol
[2016-03-06 11:10:14] micmix : you have to transfer more coins to go above 40%, it's really stupid. just leads to more liquidations that could be avoided
[2016-03-06 11:19:41] habibi : bitstamp 5$ premium over finex now
[2016-03-06 11:58:50] chromaticcr : last minute pump lol
[2016-03-06 12:00:56] lockhedge : ETH7D is now the most traded contract within the last 24h here
[2016-03-06 12:01:33] chromaticcr : coz we all are busy cleaning up the liquidations here i guess
[2016-03-06 12:02:03] lockhedge : micmix: are you market making ETH?
[2016-03-06 12:02:16] micmix : lockhedge: no
[2016-03-06 12:02:32] rapidtrades : DON'T LEAVE US
[2016-03-06 12:05:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 200 @ 405.36
[2016-03-06 12:14:26] rapidtrades : that was a quick liq
[2016-03-06 12:15:14] chromaticcr : would that be a position brought from XBT48H
[2016-03-06 12:15:39] rapidtrades : prolly...doesnt make sense otherwise
[2016-03-06 12:16:24] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceHistory keep growing
[2016-03-06 12:17:47] kb1985 : habibi: managed to run away on time ;)
[2016-03-06 12:21:39] zanza : I feel like the insurance should be paired with a liquidation history
[2016-03-06 12:22:03] zanza : would be interesting to view
[2016-03-06 12:22:18] zanza : liquidation history + fill history
[2016-03-06 12:33:57] rapidtrades : finex again dragging us down man
[2016-03-06 12:36:17] rapidtrades : do i have to pass aml before i can sell on stamp? anyone has account there?
[2016-03-06 12:36:58] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Sam: Are we prohibited/prevented from closing our positions at the liquidation price?
[2016-03-06 12:37:54] tradedesk : NukeLaloosh: you will get an error, but why close it at that price?
[2016-03-06 12:39:21] habibi : coz u will save the maintance
[2016-03-06 12:39:38] NukeLaloosh : because price action was going south and I could still save a few ticks
[2016-03-06 12:39:40] NukeLaloosh : exactly habibi
[2016-03-06 12:40:14] habibi : thats why u should always use cross and keep eye on position on highly leverage
[2016-03-06 12:44:52] NukeLaloosh : habibi: so instead you'd recommend cross using stops? I had thought isolated leverage— although subjecting me to higher liquidation risk—would prevent serious damage to my wallet should a major move occur
[2016-03-06 12:45:34] habibi : stops are not using here almost at all, its all about u trying to get out manually
[2016-03-06 12:49:17] habibi : stops are not usable here almost at all, i mean they won't save u in most cases
[2016-03-06 12:50:22] NukeLaloosh : i see. thanks habibi, tradedesk
[2016-03-06 12:51:59] habibi : rapidtrades: yea but volume of yday dump is pretty nice on finex
[2016-03-06 12:52:16] weebisom933 : hi is there support here ?
[2016-03-06 12:53:09] weebisom933 : I have confirmed a withdrawal yesterday, still says pending email approval and funds didn't show up in my wallet
[2016-03-06 12:53:37] habibi : weebisom933: https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq#when-are-bitcoin-withdrawals-processed
[2016-03-06 12:53:47] tradedesk : 7 more minutes @weebisom933
[2016-03-06 12:55:09] weebisom933 : ahhhh timezones. Been working with people from all around the world for 15 years, timezones still get me once in a while
[2016-03-06 12:55:13] weebisom933 : thanks !
[2016-03-06 13:29:58] rapidtrades : finex u filthy ho!
[2016-03-06 14:03:09] kb1985 : Mods, could you please look into my withdrawals? Still didn't recieve it and I wastold hte withdrawal tim will be on hour ago. :/
[2016-03-06 14:04:24] kb1985 : maybe it is just bitcoin being slow, going to wait a bit more ;)
[2016-03-06 14:06:44] BitMEX_Wally : kb1985: our apologies, they are processed manually by 2 partners. They have just been broadcast.
[2016-03-06 14:20:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.02761
[2016-03-06 14:30:00] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: 2 partners? mommy and daddy?
[2016-03-06 14:33:29] BitMEX_Wally : Mummy is normally asleep when we do withdrawals. Daddy and little Timmy do it together
[2016-03-06 14:33:48] BitMEX_Wally : Plus Mr Robot too, so it's a threesome
[2016-03-06 14:35:11] habibi : would be great if daddy would come back to kids
[2016-03-06 14:35:59] Rasign : btc x100 didn't work for me since yesterday, bitmex have trouble ?
[2016-03-06 14:36:25] BitMEX_Wally : Rasign: what issue did you have?
[2016-03-06 14:37:07] Rasign : oh no its good
[2016-03-06 14:37:15] Rasign : didn't watch
[2016-03-06 14:37:18] Rasign : total balance
[2016-03-06 14:38:50] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: could u add this withdrawalalbe balance next to total balance? it was really usefull when it was there :)
[2016-03-06 14:39:30] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: it's on the Order box as Available Funds
[2016-03-06 14:39:56] habibi : i know
[2016-03-06 14:40:18] BitMEX_Wally : So it would be redundant to have it on the screen twice
[2016-03-06 14:41:15] habibi : as u says, was rather talking about moving it.
[2016-03-06 14:41:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2000 @ 0.02751
[2016-03-06 14:41:42] sleger : and its hidden by the trollbox
[2016-03-06 14:46:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.02744
[2016-03-06 14:49:59] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: Is Arthur going to make a public apology for insulting all his customers ?
[2016-03-06 14:51:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 240 @ 0.02632
[2016-03-06 14:51:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2 @ 0.02619 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-06 14:52:09] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.02500
[2016-03-06 14:53:01] habibi : buhahahah eth
[2016-03-06 14:55:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 900 @ 0.02364
[2016-03-06 14:55:39] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-03-06 14:55:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 342 @ 0.02322
[2016-03-06 14:56:50] rapidtrades : improsion
[2016-03-06 14:57:07] rapidtrades : little too late for us but f it
[2016-03-06 15:05:09] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 116 @ 0.02535
[2016-03-06 15:18:22] habibi : "safest bet ever" i will always remember that quote
[2016-03-06 15:18:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.02539
[2016-03-06 15:24:29] chromaticcr : #GOTOHELL
[2016-03-06 15:24:29] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02449
[2016-03-06 15:24:46] chromaticcr : SPEND THE DPE MONEY
[2016-03-06 15:27:11] rapidtrades : these idiots will drain the insurance fund
[2016-03-06 15:27:49] sleger : after the public apology, need to separate insurance funds
[2016-03-06 15:28:18] chromaticcr : habibi: what a slippery roof-top
[2016-03-06 15:31:08] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: The insult was made in a private chat, and so was the apology. You'll have to wait for it to be leaked
[2016-03-06 15:31:25] sleger : ahah ok :)
[2016-03-06 15:31:46] sleger : and opinion on separate insurance funds ?
[2016-03-06 15:32:05] sleger : different instruments have different risks
[2016-03-06 15:32:13] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, and the fund is partially segregated
[2016-03-06 15:32:39] BitMEX_Wally : Meaning that if a liquidation in XBT24H has some margin left over, it can only be spent on clearing XBT24H DPE unless we manually move it
[2016-03-06 15:32:59] chromaticcr : in what case would you move it?
[2016-03-06 15:34:06] BitMEX_Wally : If there is a high DPE % and we feel there is enough surplus
[2016-03-06 15:34:33] BitMEX_Wally : For example, we might use XBT7D surplus to clear XBT24H DPE
[2016-03-06 15:36:20] BitMEX_Wally : We increased the leverage on ETH7D to 25x but the maintenance margin is still 2%
[2016-03-06 15:37:47] BitMEX_Wally : So the ETH7D liquidations have not been eating into the XBT insurance fund
[2016-03-06 15:47:48] tscha : Trollbox is kinda broken for me, can't minimize it anymore
[2016-03-06 15:48:00] tscha : Reloading / restarting browser doesn't help
[2016-03-06 15:48:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.02560
[2016-03-06 15:50:24] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: does it matter if i use a different address for withdrawal? in terms of fees
[2016-03-06 15:50:41] habibi : rapidtrades: nope
[2016-03-06 15:50:50] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: No, but I strongly recommend you do not use the minimum fee
[2016-03-06 15:51:09] BitMEX_Wally : We use multi-sig wallets so the transactions are larger than normal
[2016-03-06 15:51:17] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2016-03-06 15:51:52] BitMEX_Wally : Not that we think customers should have to guess the correct fee, we are working on a better solution
[2016-03-06 16:09:50] Mangalica : 0.0005 should work fine, right?
[2016-03-06 16:10:30] habibi : Mangalica: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
[2016-03-06 16:13:25] rapidtrades : if we're going up then why isn't finex the wh*re moving
[2016-03-06 16:16:02] rapidtrades : prolly waiting for $450 then it will fomo at the end
[2016-03-06 16:21:32] rapidtrades : anyone planning to position for chinese devaluation this year?
[2016-03-06 16:32:30] habibi : Mangalica: could u tell ur opinion about eth lending book?
[2016-03-06 16:54:10] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.02503 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-06 16:54:10] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-03-06 16:54:10] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 350 @ 0.02500
[2016-03-06 17:02:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 6 @ 0.02510
[2016-03-06 17:12:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.02505 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-06 17:43:30] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 45 @ 0.02535
[2016-03-06 17:52:15] splash : REKT is a bot
[2016-03-06 17:58:42] rapidtrades : splash: u smaht
[2016-03-06 18:03:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 150 @ 0.02586
[2016-03-06 18:04:30] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 58 @ 0.02614
[2016-03-06 18:04:30] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.02619
[2016-03-06 18:12:46] Mangalica : habibi, 140k available to short. I don't think shorts are overstretched, even if this might just bounce
[2016-03-06 18:13:44] chromaticcr : what fun seeing people lending at 2% daily on polo
[2016-03-06 18:18:11] Mangalica : yeah
[2016-03-06 18:18:27] Mangalica : hard to catch that though and it always gets returned pretty quickly
[2016-03-06 18:18:36] Mangalica : still, the average rate is ridiculous nowadays
[2016-03-06 18:20:00] Mangalica : i have plenty of loans out there with >1% a day so i cant complain
[2016-03-06 18:20:19] chromaticcr : I avg at about 0.4%
[2016-03-06 18:51:30] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 55 @ 0.02614
[2016-03-06 18:58:41] BTCDJS : question about orders on poloniex. anyone about?
[2016-03-06 18:59:30] BTCDJS : around
[2016-03-06 19:04:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 90 @ 0.02569
[2016-03-06 19:07:30] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2 @ 0.02554 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-06 19:07:30] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-03-06 19:23:49] guywithanicebike : hide yo kids hide yo wife
[2016-03-06 19:43:07] yerb : What means whitheld profit?
[2016-03-06 19:43:35] tradedesk : your profit locked in until settlement
[2016-03-06 19:45:47] yerb : Why the hell? I want to trade with my new money, wtf is this?
[2016-03-06 19:48:03] tradedesk : you new to futures?
[2016-03-06 19:48:44] yerb : no i was on Okc, just new to mex
[2016-03-06 19:49:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 140 @ 0.02648
[2016-03-06 19:49:34] yerb : On okc you take profit an use it in next position, why not here
[2016-03-06 19:54:48] yerb : I was lured here by 100x leverage, but seems its useless, and no liquidity, is this more like a joke exchange for kids?
[2016-03-06 19:58:23] rapidtrades : yerb: yeah we're all children here
[2016-03-06 20:01:58] yerb : nice
[2016-03-06 20:02:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 12 @ 0.02632
[2016-03-06 20:02:22] yerb : so OKC quarterly contract is totally different?
[2016-03-06 20:04:09] yerb : there is reasonable liquidity, and the funds are not withheld, you can trade your profits immediately
[2016-03-06 20:04:55] lockhedge : yerb: OKC contracts are more similar to XBU contracts https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBU (but no socialized losses on XBU) unfortunately there is not much volume on XBU anymore
[2016-03-06 20:07:38] lockhedge : yerb: withheld profits are necessary for highly leveraged contracts with DPW https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2016-03-06 20:07:47] lockhedge : DPE
[2016-03-06 20:08:18] yerb : ok so XBU is useless