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[2016-03-05 10:55:38] kb1985 : :D
[2016-03-05 10:57:40] jung1 : bitcurex sie bierze chyba za giełde eth/pln
[2016-03-05 10:58:53] rapidtrades : so no leverage at coinbase right?
[2016-03-05 11:01:51] jung1 : yep
[2016-03-05 11:02:11] jung1 : and they have that bitlicence as well
[2016-03-05 11:05:09] rapidtrades : and for their non-exchange service? do i have to wait for verification too?
[2016-03-05 11:06:13] jung1 : im not shure
[2016-03-05 11:06:38] jung1 : but I think until you dont withrawal some big amount of $ there is no need for that
[2016-03-05 11:07:21] rapidtrades : f it....fees are 1% and 3% for ''lighting buy'' lol
[2016-03-05 11:07:36] rapidtrades : it will eat the arb unless u already have $ in there
[2016-03-05 11:08:03] habibi : u checked exchange or this other service they have?
[2016-03-05 11:08:18] rapidtrades : the other one, can't use their exchange
[2016-03-05 11:08:43] rapidtrades : also u have to wait for bank transfer for exchange, so will miss the arb anyway
[2016-03-05 11:08:53] habibi : yea its shitty anyway
[2016-03-05 11:09:24] jung1 : best arb is on localbitcoin imo
[2016-03-05 11:09:33] rapidtrades : yeah pretty much
[2016-03-05 11:10:20] zanza : woulc be cool to see an Etherium quartlerly contract
[2016-03-05 11:10:40] rapidtrades : sure why not
[2016-03-05 11:10:54] rapidtrades : wanna short a shit full of premium
[2016-03-05 11:11:17] habibi : jung1: arb on localbitcoin?
[2016-03-05 11:11:30] jung1 : yeah
[2016-03-05 11:11:49] jung1 : avarage price on localbitcoin is like 7-10% higher than on exchange
[2016-03-05 11:12:03] jung1 : but more pierdolenia with this
[2016-03-05 11:12:07] rapidtrades : i worry that smone will dump fake notes on me lol
[2016-03-05 11:16:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 2400 @ 408.09
[2016-03-05 11:35:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.02736
[2016-03-05 11:37:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 75 @ 0.02714
[2016-03-05 11:37:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 870 @ 0.02709
[2016-03-05 11:37:23] chromaticcr : last time Bitcoin had a rally like ETH, XBT24H had a 10% premium (the 500 rally last year-end)
[2016-03-05 11:42:35] rapidtrades : so? the eth is not quanto is it
[2016-03-05 11:44:18] jung1 : ethi is primo
[2016-03-05 11:52:57] jung1 : ouch
[2016-03-05 11:57:28] chromaticcr : thanks!
[2016-03-05 11:57:39] sleger : welcome
[2016-03-05 12:06:47] rapidtrades : we have a seller on 24h
[2016-03-05 12:08:50] tscha : coinbase $388 lol
[2016-03-05 12:09:22] rapidtrades : if we can't buy it, stop mentioning it
[2016-03-05 12:10:30] tscha : why can't we buy it?
[2016-03-05 12:10:44] tscha : Oh, Americans not allowed on Coinbase... sorry rapidtrades
[2016-03-05 12:11:23] habibi : tscha: they cant?
[2016-03-05 12:11:32] chromaticcr : lol... then who is allowed?
[2016-03-05 12:11:34] tscha : na just joking, they can
[2016-03-05 12:15:25] rapidtrades : tscha: that's hilarious
[2016-03-05 12:40:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 425 @ 404.58
[2016-03-05 12:42:47] rapidtrades : cmon if ur not going up let's at least have some volatiliy
[2016-03-05 12:43:00] rapidtrades : this slow slide is making me rage
[2016-03-05 12:47:31] splash : no eotions
[2016-03-05 12:47:37] splash : emotions
[2016-03-05 12:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 403.48
[2016-03-05 13:04:39] laisee : sell now, its only going down until June
[2016-03-05 13:06:20] rapidtrades : what happens in june
[2016-03-05 13:08:18] sleger : Summer
[2016-03-05 13:08:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 1305 @ 481.04
[2016-03-05 13:08:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 1000 @ 481.09
[2016-03-05 13:09:50] chromaticcr : pop pop pop
[2016-03-05 13:10:11] sleger : rapidtrades:is there a price at which you stop your long
[2016-03-05 13:10:59] rapidtrades : of course...already out of like 60%
[2016-03-05 13:12:41] tscha : tell me when you are out 100%, because then the price will stop falling
[2016-03-05 13:12:50] rapidtrades : prolly lol
[2016-03-05 13:14:27] rapidtrades : sleger likely bought some of mine last night
[2016-03-05 13:15:33] rapidtrades : sleger: did u flip em or still holding?
[2016-03-05 13:16:11] sleger : I bought on finex a bit
[2016-03-05 13:16:25] rapidtrades : tnx :)
[2016-03-05 13:16:32] sleger : And i sold one hour ago some h16 and other stuff
[2016-03-05 13:16:49] sleger : Somehow the premium was back up to 10$...
[2016-03-05 13:17:09] rapidtrades : $10 is not big since its a quanto
[2016-03-05 13:17:33] rapidtrades : that's less then 50 cents per day
[2016-03-05 13:18:44] sleger : Yes but yesterday i bought back what I could (which isnt that much given liquidity) at 2$ premium
[2016-03-05 13:21:47] rapidtrades : ah ok
[2016-03-05 13:25:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 70 @ 0.02710
[2016-03-05 13:29:54] kb1985 : bitcoin almost below 400 USD, will be interestingf for ETHER
[2016-03-05 13:33:19] kb1985 : wohoo ETH pump on poloniex starting
[2016-03-05 13:34:42] kb1985 : https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/03/05/serenity-poc2/
[2016-03-05 13:35:35] Teddy76 : 13k on buy side
[2016-03-05 13:35:55] chromaticcr : buy the rumor sell the news!
[2016-03-05 13:36:02] Teddy76 : yesterday less than 10k
[2016-03-05 13:36:23] kb1985 : that's right! i bet we are going to have even more interesting rally tonight
[2016-03-05 13:37:24] kb1985 : this is amazing
[2016-03-05 13:38:22] arbitrage001 : have we pass the withdrawal time for today?
[2016-03-05 13:40:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 3048 @ 0.02830
[2016-03-05 13:40:58] Rasign : what the comission for x100 ?
[2016-03-05 13:41:11] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq everything is here
[2016-03-05 13:41:34] chromaticcr : fee is here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-03-05 13:42:48] kb1985 : poor ETH shorters :/
[2016-03-05 13:48:47] arbitrage001 : hard to believe ETH goes up 27+ times
[2016-03-05 13:50:00] arbitrage001 : but then, there are other coins went up more than 1000 times before crashing down
[2016-03-05 13:53:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 18 @ 402.96
[2016-03-05 14:05:22] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: what coins went up 1000 times
[2016-03-05 14:12:51] arbitrage001 : a lot actually
[2016-03-05 14:13:24] arbitrage001 : 2-3 years when there was a rush on alt coins
[2016-03-05 14:13:45] rapidtrades : name one
[2016-03-05 14:13:53] arbitrage001 : aurora, vert coin
[2016-03-05 14:13:56] rapidtrades : from the time it was on a exchange
[2016-03-05 14:14:08] rapidtrades : aurorra, i remember that shitcoin
[2016-03-05 14:14:19] rapidtrades : had a 300mil market cap at one point
[2016-03-05 14:14:20] arbitrage001 : wasn't shit when people bought it
[2016-03-05 14:14:26] rapidtrades : yeah it was
[2016-03-05 14:14:27] Teddy76 : arbitrage001: don't compare ETH with these shitcoins
[2016-03-05 14:14:35] rapidtrades : Teddy76: loooool
[2016-03-05 14:14:48] rapidtrades : eth=super spam shitcoin
[2016-03-05 14:15:03] Teddy76 : rapidtrades: you don't own any ETH?
[2016-03-05 14:15:09] rapidtrades : 0
[2016-03-05 14:15:17] Teddy76 : what you missed man
[2016-03-05 14:15:27] rapidtrades : i didn't miss anything
[2016-03-05 14:15:38] Teddy76 : i understand why you troll ETH
[2016-03-05 14:15:43] Teddy76 : sure?
[2016-03-05 14:15:45] rapidtrades : if i bought every shitcoin i would be broke now
[2016-03-05 14:16:11] arbitrage001 : buying alt coin is like buy lottery ticket
[2016-03-05 14:16:19] arbitrage001 : a few get rich, most will go broke
[2016-03-05 14:16:27] rapidtrades : got it
[2016-03-05 14:20:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 1367 @ 406.51
[2016-03-05 14:20:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 6000 @ 406.54
[2016-03-05 14:26:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 300 @ 0.02889
[2016-03-05 14:26:52] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-03-05 14:27:25] rapidtrades : burn in hell eth
[2016-03-05 14:30:54] tscha : rapidtrades: let me guess, you are short eth since end of january?
[2016-03-05 14:32:21] laisee : and long BTC
[2016-03-05 14:33:40] chromaticcr : why not add short A50 since last week too?
[2016-03-05 14:34:01] laisee : prefect storm
[2016-03-05 14:34:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 480 @ 0.02915
[2016-03-05 14:35:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4000 @ 398.82
[2016-03-05 14:35:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 5010 @ 400.52
[2016-03-05 14:35:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 160 @ 474.90
[2016-03-05 14:36:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 2000 @ 399.16
[2016-03-05 14:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 3000 @ 471.79
[2016-03-05 14:40:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 1000 @ 403.69
[2016-03-05 14:41:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 80 @ 0.02949
[2016-03-05 14:42:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 2000 @ 403.05
[2016-03-05 14:43:27] micmix : oh-oh
[2016-03-05 14:43:33] okaycn : haha
[2016-03-05 14:43:36] okaycn : 哈哈
[2016-03-05 14:43:41] tscha : just beautiful
[2016-03-05 14:43:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 3500 @ 0.02961
[2016-03-05 14:43:55] tscha : uuuh
[2016-03-05 14:44:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2800 @ 395.12
[2016-03-05 14:44:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 1501 @ 468.83
[2016-03-05 14:44:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 200 @ 468.69
[2016-03-05 14:44:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 28494 @ 467.67 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-03-05 14:45:02] justinlooking : ouch
[2016-03-05 14:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 12060 @ 394.64
[2016-03-05 14:45:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 3840 @ 397.86
[2016-03-05 14:46:01] chromaticcr : HERE WE COME DPE!
[2016-03-05 14:47:47] chromaticcr : oh nope actually...
[2016-03-05 15:02:13] micmix : tscha: if this selloff doesn't scare miners into adopting 2mb I don't know what will
[2016-03-05 15:02:43] tscha : Yeah. Price crash is the only thing that works unfortunately.
[2016-03-05 15:03:20] habibi : we have been here already, whats wrong with drops :p?
[2016-03-05 15:05:18] rapidtrades : the blocks are not full ppl, its just some idiots spamming the network...let them waste money on fees
[2016-03-05 15:05:46] tscha : micmix: IMHO the problem is that Chinese miners don't understand some fundamental concepts that Bitcoin builds upon (voting with hashpower, decentralization of development etc...)
[2016-03-05 15:06:01] rapidtrades : THE BLOCKS ARE NOT FULL
[2016-03-05 15:06:07] rapidtrades : THERE IS NO PROBLEM FFS
[2016-03-05 15:07:15] tscha : micmix: Looking at the Chinese forums, at some statements of important people there, gave me goosebumps... most of them didn't even read the whitepaper, they don't grasp many basic concepts.. they only have warehouses and cheap energy
[2016-03-05 15:07:36] tscha : and since many of them don't speak English, there is a huge language-barrier
[2016-03-05 15:08:13] rapidtrades : they understand more then u, easily swayed by propaganda
[2016-03-05 15:08:27] rapidtrades : just look at eth, that shitcoin rallied 100x on spam alone
[2016-03-05 15:08:36] rapidtrades : ur not he most critically thinking bunch
[2016-03-05 15:08:48] micmix : rapidtrades: the market seems to disagree with "blocks not full, there is no problem"
[2016-03-05 15:09:31] rapidtrades : micmix: please, market rallied to 500 few months ago on no news....this is just taking back the unjistified gains
[2016-03-05 15:09:33] tscha : micmix: luckily, some Chinese guy translated Brian's post and posted it into the biggest Chinese forum, this seems to be eye-opening for many over there fortunately.. hope they convert these opinions into hashpower-votes
[2016-03-05 15:10:03] habibi : why we should go up? there is eth, huge pump, great profits or losses. who cares about btc in that case? we grow from 230 to 500+ without willy probally which is good and done for btc imo as a pump scheme
[2016-03-05 15:10:36] micmix : tscha: I'm not sure about miners but I was expecting a bit more from pool operators at least
[2016-03-05 15:10:57] chromaticcr : if blocks are not full, then the pool operator's brain is full... of shit
[2016-03-05 15:11:17] habibi : why u dont care about tens of blocks with 0 txs? or 700 kb blocks?
[2016-03-05 15:11:29] tscha : micmix: KnC is mining classic, and slush has allowed people to vote since yesterday (~75%-80% vote for Classic)
[2016-03-05 15:11:50] rapidtrades : also u forget that we rallied to 450 on the roundtable conclusion...so this could just be buy rumor sell the fact
[2016-03-05 15:12:03] rapidtrades : or just noise
[2016-03-05 15:12:49] tscha : BTCC already has a signed contract with Blockstream, that's why Samson Mow is trolling so hard recently
[2016-03-05 15:17:41] rapidtrades : blocks are only full for a few hrs, every few days....and as soon as that happens, spammers go around posting on reddit
[2016-03-05 15:18:08] rapidtrades : prove otherwise, this data should be easy to find
[2016-03-05 15:18:10] habibi : tscha: with 2mb blocks spamming can even be cheaper depends on fee market
[2016-03-05 15:18:20] rapidtrades : yes exactly
[2016-03-05 15:18:28] rapidtrades : let the spammers waste their money
[2016-03-05 15:19:14] habibi : what i want to say is giving btc development to some random all time stoner guy and few others is wrong decision imo
[2016-03-05 15:19:15] tscha : habibi: not really, you can make blocks full by spamming ~100kb right now, with 2MB block you need ~1100kb which is 11x the amount... and the minimum fee of 0.0001 will remain
[2016-03-05 15:20:13] rapidtrades : tscha: even if i concede that point, the roundtable conclusion allows for 2mb doesn't it
[2016-03-05 15:20:20] habibi : tscha: but we are at 0.0005 right now? i mean spammer was using this one right?
[2016-03-05 15:20:29] rapidtrades : soft fork to 2 mb? wasn't that the decision?
[2016-03-05 15:20:44] tscha : habibi: no, he used much lower fee. 0.0005 btc is only for people who want to push their transactions through
[2016-03-05 15:21:08] habibi : so if he use low enough his spam wouldnt stop normal transactions
[2016-03-05 15:21:10] rapidtrades : tscha: so he's deliberately trying to clog up the network
[2016-03-05 15:21:47] habibi : basically we can say at 2mb he will run out of money.. or not. maybe at 4 mb? or not.. or maybe he makes way more money on shorting the drama that he makes
[2016-03-05 15:22:25] habibi : imo its coordinated, btc price action, spam drama, and eth pump
[2016-03-05 15:22:27] tscha : habibi: you can actually look it up somewhere, it was mostly just one address spamming around....but as far as I remember he chose a fee slightly above the standard-fee for most wallets
[2016-03-05 15:22:48] rapidtrades : tscha: so how would a 2mb fee stop him
[2016-03-05 15:22:54] rapidtrades : 2 mb limit*
[2016-03-05 15:23:06] BTCDJS : keep calm and buy bitcoin now
[2016-03-05 15:23:22] micmix : habibi: the problem with not enough capacity is that fees are unpredictable. you can't say for sure that 0.0005 is enough to get confirmed quickly
[2016-03-05 15:23:25] tscha : rapidtrades: it wouldn't stop him, but make it much much more expensive
[2016-03-05 15:24:05] rapidtrades : tscha: how? if fees go up for him they'll go up for us too
[2016-03-05 15:24:25] BTCDJS : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/sECYQK1t/
[2016-03-05 15:25:04] tscha : right now, he prolly needs ~100kb of spamming of about 50 satoshis per bytes = 7.2 btc a day to spam the network
[2016-03-05 15:25:06] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: bull market prolly over bud..i still have song longs but it's not looking good
[2016-03-05 15:25:34] tscha : increasing the blocksize, he needs 1100kb of spamming, so about 79BTC a day
[2016-03-05 15:26:10] rapidtrades : tscha: but he's not spamming all day long...he only does it for several hrs, once a week or so
[2016-03-05 15:26:16] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: nah mate. its just the fear and panic stage. we are going up now.
[2016-03-05 15:26:23] tscha : rapidtrades: nah, he spammed for like 3 days straight and then stopped
[2016-03-05 15:26:43] rapidtrades : tscha: ok well i missed that...anyone got their transactions delayed?
[2016-03-05 15:27:20] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: remember when u came here i told u most newbs come for the bull market then overstay their welcome after it ends :)
[2016-03-05 15:27:40] tscha : yes... took about 2 days for me to get a withdrawal confirmed here
[2016-03-05 15:28:24] rapidtrades : tscha: that's not a normal transaction tho
[2016-03-05 15:29:03] rapidtrades : in any care we already got a deal for 2mb
[2016-03-05 15:29:14] rapidtrades : so its a mute point isn't it
[2016-03-05 15:29:15] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: the chatter on twitter is still positive for bitcoin mate. I'm being influenced by traders who think its still good.
[2016-03-05 15:29:37] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: thats moot
[2016-03-05 15:29:44] tscha : true, but for it getting a fast confirmation I would have had to pay ~0.0025 btc.... almost $1.50
[2016-03-05 15:30:08] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: the chatter is always positive for bitcoin, most ppl in this space are permabulls
[2016-03-05 15:32:05] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: fair enough. at least ill get more bitcoin for my REP on launch
[2016-03-05 15:33:40] splash : hold ur horses
[2016-03-05 15:34:01] splash : eth breaking out
[2016-03-05 15:34:03] splash : lol
[2016-03-05 15:37:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 3418 @ 0.02981
[2016-03-05 15:37:23] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-03-05 15:38:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.02989 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-05 15:39:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.03016
[2016-03-05 15:40:12] habibi : and here comes dpe
[2016-03-05 15:40:55] tradedesk : dpe?
[2016-03-05 15:41:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.03050
[2016-03-05 15:41:16] habibi : on eth
[2016-03-05 15:41:23] tradedesk : what is dpe?
[2016-03-05 15:41:31] habibi : dynamic profit eq someting
[2016-03-05 15:45:09] splash : eth about to get crushed
[2016-03-05 15:47:53] kb1985 : this is bullish for ETH! https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/492uwv/eth_linear_regression_breakout/
[2016-03-05 15:48:11] habibi : its not polo trollbox
[2016-03-05 15:49:43] splash : i want voice interface
[2016-03-05 15:49:55] splash : "hey, bitmex. sell X for X, stop at..." etc
[2016-03-05 15:51:19] AudibleScience : ^
[2016-03-05 15:53:58] mwalshe99 : no liquidity on eth
[2016-03-05 15:55:29] HirschArny : eth ... to da mooon
[2016-03-05 15:58:01] Mangalica : MM called it a day on ETH
[2016-03-05 15:58:18] Mangalica : 10% spread
[2016-03-05 16:00:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 15 @ 394.35
[2016-03-05 16:01:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 15 @ 396.11
[2016-03-05 16:02:05] Teddy76 : splash: you can do it yourself
[2016-03-05 16:02:55] AudibleScience : Teddy76: what!? the voice control thinkg?
[2016-03-05 16:04:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 9000 @ 461.79
[2016-03-05 16:04:12] Teddy76 : yes, i think it's possible with some code and food library
[2016-03-05 16:04:16] Teddy76 : good*
[2016-03-05 16:04:19] Teddy76 : :/
[2016-03-05 16:04:36] Teddy76 : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/SpeechRecognition/
[2016-03-05 16:07:21] AudibleScience : Teddy76: nice!
[2016-03-05 16:07:37] AudibleScience : have you tested it?
[2016-03-05 16:07:53] Teddy76 : i have this kind of thing on my car (prius)
[2016-03-05 16:08:54] Teddy76 : and numbers are not well recognized
[2016-03-05 16:09:02] Teddy76 : :/
[2016-03-05 16:09:09] AudibleScience : oh I see.
[2016-03-05 16:09:38] Teddy76 : it also depends of your language
[2016-03-05 16:10:19] rapidtrades : almost flat now...although selling looks way over done
[2016-03-05 16:10:20] AudibleScience : Teddy76: what language are you talking to your car then?
[2016-03-05 16:10:33] Teddy76 : mine, french
[2016-03-05 16:10:49] Teddy76 : but i think i can talk in english
[2016-03-05 16:10:53] Teddy76 : i will test next time
[2016-03-05 16:13:02] AudibleScience : yeah the car may have an extended language db
[2016-03-05 16:13:06] rapidtrades : oh look eth at 0.03
[2016-03-05 16:13:39] AudibleScience : it's been there for a while @rapidtrades
[2016-03-05 16:13:47] rapidtrades : this is some orchestrated russian style mafia level crap
[2016-03-05 16:14:08] rapidtrades : clog network, dump btc, pump eth
[2016-03-05 16:15:12] AudibleScience : eth and the coin have historically always had an inverse relationship though no?
[2016-03-05 16:15:28] habibi : nope
[2016-03-05 16:15:48] AudibleScience : I've not been following it that long
[2016-03-05 16:16:01] habibi : was talking ealier, MM on eth change it by pumping on both ocassions. when btc goes down or up
[2016-03-05 16:16:41] mwalshe99 : was that 3000+ rekt on ether the bot?
[2016-03-05 16:16:59] habibi : nope
[2016-03-05 16:18:24] kb1985 : seriously, why prices here are so much lower than on poloniex?
[2016-03-05 16:18:32] habibi : higher?
[2016-03-05 16:19:26] kb1985 : oh sorry, was looking at wrong charts lol
[2016-03-05 16:19:34] rapidtrades : what a mess
[2016-03-05 16:19:58] AudibleScience : polo back down to below 0.03 again now
[2016-03-05 16:20:23] habibi : yes we see :)
[2016-03-05 16:21:54] kb1985 : but still 0.03 seems to be new floor
[2016-03-05 16:22:02] habibi : lel
[2016-03-05 16:22:10] kb1985 : some jumping around always occurs
[2016-03-05 16:41:21] splash : isnt it waaay to early to say the 0.03 is the new floor?
[2016-03-05 16:41:41] splash : the way I c it, rpice just touched it.
[2016-03-05 16:41:56] splash : price coming from below, not above
[2016-03-05 16:42:21] Teddy76 : testing time
[2016-03-05 16:43:15] splash : 0.03 is a ceiling, but let's see if its resistance. still not clear whether it is or not but there are tons and tons of indicators telling me that price will go to 0.03, break it and go higher and then crash spectaclary
[2016-03-05 16:43:24] GurungBoi : bitmex eth fut is based on
[2016-03-05 16:43:31] GurungBoi : what exchange or combination of many
[2016-03-05 16:43:37] habibi : polo eth/btc
[2016-03-05 16:43:39] Teddy76 : GurungBoi: just polo
[2016-03-05 16:43:46] GurungBoi : ;O
[2016-03-05 16:43:47] GurungBoi : thanks
[2016-03-05 16:45:25] rapidtrades : ok eth's falling...maybe we'll stabilize now
[2016-03-05 16:47:10] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: yes we will
[2016-03-05 16:48:44] rapidtrades : i'm almost flat now tho....so it won't benefit me much :)
[2016-03-05 16:49:33] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-03-05 16:49:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1500 @ 394.05
[2016-03-05 16:54:32] MrRGnome : Are there any admins kicking around?
[2016-03-05 16:55:37] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: no it doesn't seem like it
[2016-03-05 16:55:55] MrRGnome : I just wanted to complain that the new UI has introduced several usability issues, at least for me on android chrome. No submit button on chat window and enter is new line, logged out every time the screen is turned off. It's pretty severely annoying.
[2016-03-05 16:56:16] chromaticcr : they are on vacation? for a well deserved rest
[2016-03-05 16:56:24] BTCDJS : if you press "b" and tab in the troll box you will be able to see if any BITMEX_names appear
[2016-03-05 16:56:48] habibi : and has order menu on the edge
[2016-03-05 16:56:52] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: you can drop an email
[2016-03-05 16:57:15] chromaticcr : https://bitmex.freshdesk.com/support/home
[2016-03-05 16:57:56] habibi : holiday on Seychelles sounds good
[2016-03-05 16:58:30] justinlooking : BTCDJS: not that tab completion shit again
[2016-03-05 16:58:53] chromaticcr : time to take a visit to their seychelles banks and make sure they are not running away with their cold hard .. private keys?
[2016-03-05 16:59:15] BTCDJS : justinlooking: huh?
[2016-03-05 16:59:27] habibi : u forgot to add multi sig ! :)
[2016-03-05 17:00:43] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 1000 @ 397.94
[2016-03-05 17:00:58] AudibleScience : the coin is rebounding and eth is dumping
[2016-03-05 17:04:01] justinlooking : BTCDJS: yes in most IRC clients, tab completion indicates presence, but trollbox's tab completion is just the nicknames from the last 50 or so messages
[2016-03-05 17:04:22] BTCDJS : AudibleScience: i agree. but Eth is nearly at a 1bn market cap.
[2016-03-05 17:05:17] AudibleScience : BTCDJS: yeah nice
[2016-03-05 17:07:09] justinlooking : eth is dumping?
[2016-03-05 17:07:25] BTCDJS : justinlooking: not really just yet
[2016-03-05 17:08:32] kb1985 : just usual dip
[2016-03-05 17:09:34] mellowmate : anybody teach me how it works?
[2016-03-05 17:09:39] kb1985 : that was nice dip, specatcular :D reboudning now on poloniex, it was all kraken falut as always
[2016-03-05 17:10:01] kb1985 : mellowmate: how what works? the dips? after spike there is small correction liek now and then it goes even higher
[2016-03-05 17:10:26] kb1985 : for example it went on poloniex to 0.0281 now and then back to 0.0287
[2016-03-05 17:10:47] chromaticcr : or we have the next stage of pump, which is DUMPPP!
[2016-03-05 17:10:50] mellowmate : I mean How bitmex works?
[2016-03-05 17:10:59] kb1985 : chromaticcr: i'ts never like that
[2016-03-05 17:11:15] chromaticcr : mellowmate: https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq this might help
[2016-03-05 17:11:33] kb1985 : basically there is no reason why ETH would go down, bitcoin is falling, ETH ecosystem is getting bigger and bigger, only way it might go down would be so called black swan evenyt, something really bad like major excahgne closing etc
[2016-03-05 17:11:47] habibi : kb1985: unless someone will want to take profit?
[2016-03-05 17:11:50] kb1985 : you will see it is just a dip and ETH will continue grow even stronger it was like that since jaunary
[2016-03-05 17:12:09] kb1985 : habibi: yeah but one person or even 50 peopel taking profits wont affect the price for too long
[2016-03-05 17:12:27] habibi : its all about market maker
[2016-03-05 17:12:35] kb1985 : you have just seen some peopel taking profits, huge red candle, and then going up again.. new traders make mistake and scare when they wee that red candle buy it goes up faster than it fell down
[2016-03-05 17:12:36] habibi : he still totally controls that price
[2016-03-05 17:13:01] chromaticcr : unless you have a look where the rates of lending poloniex goes and you start to doubt how much of them were speculative bucks
[2016-03-05 17:13:09] kb1985 : only for a breif moment, the market is too strong and it corrects itself -- see, ETH is back to 0.03 almost on poloniex
[2016-03-05 17:13:29] kb1985 : when you have seen it hundreds of times since 2013 you just play it cool and dont min dit
[2016-03-05 17:13:31] habibi : delusional phase inc
[2016-03-05 17:13:58] kb1985 : yesterday was largest influx of new users for ETH reddit, it is growing faster and faster
[2016-03-05 17:14:17] kb1985 : so no delusion in it, pure growth
[2016-03-05 17:15:47] kb1985 : or place your buy orders low hoping to catch noobs sell offs ;)
[2016-03-05 17:15:51] splash : well
[2016-03-05 17:16:08] splash : that only makes the old record harder to break
[2016-03-05 17:16:19] splash : easy to double useres from 1 to 2
[2016-03-05 17:16:32] splash : more diifcult to go from 1000 to 2000
[2016-03-05 17:16:37] splash : same with price
[2016-03-05 17:16:45] splash : performance i relatice
[2016-03-05 17:17:03] kb1985 : it makes it easier to break! peopel who are planning to hold for many years are still holdhing, people who are willing to sell at any small dump just sold and need to rebuy for bigger prices, this is good for the price!
[2016-03-05 17:17:08] splash : i remember when people said that bitcoins at $1000 was the new floor and we were in a new phase
[2016-03-05 17:17:36] kb1985 : splash: and it would conitnue to go up if not for so called black swan event, closing of mt gox
[2016-03-05 17:17:53] kb1985 : imagine poloniex closing and running away with all the ETH - it woudl be similar here
[2016-03-05 17:18:08] kb1985 : but no black swan event happens (Something real bad and hard to predit) the onyl way is up here
[2016-03-05 17:18:13] splash : i started looking at bitcoin charts when they were below $20 and litcoins was not created yet
[2016-03-05 17:18:19] kb1985 : homestead on 14.03, new exchanges, slock it presale, augur launch, exciting times
[2016-03-05 17:18:23] splash : so ive got some experience of pump n dumps
[2016-03-05 17:18:53] splash : well.. so if everyone knows about that, its already priced into the market
[2016-03-05 17:18:57] habibi : kb1985: u are on these markets since almost begining as well right?
[2016-03-05 17:19:16] kb1985 : habibi: since 2013, so not really from the beginning
[2016-03-05 17:19:27] habibi : so how u can still take so much attention to news?
[2016-03-05 17:19:27] kb1985 : but long enought
[2016-03-05 17:19:35] splash : kb1985: please know that i think we will get a crash here AND a bounce and then price go up even more
[2016-03-05 17:19:43] habibi : its only an explanation for pump for crowd, do u agree?
[2016-03-05 17:19:45] splash : so im agreeing with u somewhat
[2016-03-05 17:20:00] kb1985 : habibi: i am doing it for fun now, not playing with big amounts of money, earned enough money on this and now just chilling out and reading for fun to breakfast
[2016-03-05 17:20:07] kb1985 : wrong thing to do is to be stressed of all those things
[2016-03-05 17:20:17] habibi : i didnt ask about how much money u put on it...
[2016-03-05 17:20:26] habibi : but yea thanks for info
[2016-03-05 17:20:42] kb1985 : habibi: i didnt' tell how much, but if you are playign with small amounts you are not that stressed
[2016-03-05 17:20:52] kb1985 : if you place lot of money of course oyu are stressed
[2016-03-05 17:21:31] kb1985 : but seriously, if I believe that ETH will be worth 80 USD in couple of weeks, why woudl I worry if it is 8 or 10 or 12 dollars now? it is just too stressful, just buy the desired amount hold it and use some small amounts to play for fun
[2016-03-05 17:22:22] kb1985 : at this point it is almost impossible to lose on ETH, just buy and hold
[2016-03-05 17:22:39] splash : :)
[2016-03-05 17:22:50] mwalshe99 : kb1985: bubble hype
[2016-03-05 17:22:54] habibi : totally :)
[2016-03-05 17:23:13] splash : i know how u feel though
[2016-03-05 17:23:19] kb1985 : mwalshe99: That's what people said when it jumped from 0.0018 to 0.0028 (note the nubmer of zeroes :P)
[2016-03-05 17:23:31] splash : had the same idea about bitcoins and it seems i was right
[2016-03-05 17:23:43] splash : who knows maybe yr right too
[2016-03-05 17:25:46] kb1985 : see? already going up on poloniex
[2016-03-05 17:25:59] habibi : kb1985: 2nd time u talking that
[2016-03-05 17:26:02] habibi : in 5 minutes
[2016-03-05 17:27:00] habibi : but still buying dips in that uptrend should be profitable, cant deny that
[2016-03-05 17:27:14] kb1985 : habibi: yeah, because that's true :)
[2016-03-05 17:27:26] kb1985 : i am not playing dips too risky to miss another jump up
[2016-03-05 17:28:07] splash : kb1985: i think price is going to break above 0.03
[2016-03-05 17:28:35] kb1985 : splash: well, thats obvious, no resaon for that to not happen :P
[2016-03-05 17:28:55] kb1985 : just look at nubmer of buy VS seel orders on polo which is main indicator
[2016-03-05 17:28:59] splash : that will make newbie traders buy more, newbie shorters get margin called and the real pros will start to short after that
[2016-03-05 17:29:38] splash : trading the trader
[2016-03-05 17:30:12] splash : think like this: "how do u scr3w the other guys?" and u learn how to trade
[2016-03-05 17:31:59] splash : im also wrong often so dont take my advice
[2016-03-05 17:51:50] splash : kb1985: what's ur take on rootstock and truth coin?
[2016-03-05 17:52:49] splash : the way I see them working is possible just like eth and augur, but with much lower fees because they dont have to compete for either space or computing power, because of the side-chains implementation.
[2016-03-05 17:52:55] splash : am i wrong? why?
[2016-03-05 17:53:03] kb1985 : splash: not familiar with truth coin in details so wont' comment on that, roostock will definitely strengthen bitcoin but is no threat for ETH. I think it is smart to hold 50% assets in ETH, 25% in BTC and 25% in things like slockit or augur tokens
[2016-03-05 17:53:24] kb1985 : true, but roostock will be slower than ETH daps
[2016-03-05 17:53:42] kb1985 : definitely good for BTC, we dont want BTC killed, but ETH will be main software coin
[2016-03-05 17:54:58] splash : slower? but rootstock can run on a sidechain and be as fast as eth because of it
[2016-03-05 17:55:19] splash : yea eth is a great thing. really pushing boundries. i like that a lot
[2016-03-05 17:55:31] kb1985 : yeah, but it needs sidechain for that
[2016-03-05 17:55:34] splash : true
[2016-03-05 17:55:39] splash : still only a pipe dream
[2016-03-05 17:55:51] kb1985 : anyway, BTC + roostock will be like windows 95 updated to 98, and ETH is liek windows XP ;)
[2016-03-05 17:56:03] splash : lol
[2016-03-05 17:56:05] splash : thats funnt
[2016-03-05 17:56:06] kb1985 : :D
[2016-03-05 17:56:16] splash : eth about to pop
[2016-03-05 17:57:19] splash : eth needs to crack 0.03 to mess with short guys and btc has support much further down at like 390. so I can see btc going down there and eth going up, then it will reverse
[2016-03-05 17:58:24] splash : first short cover rally on eth, to drive up price to much to fast, then air pocket below it and then bye ybe
[2016-03-05 18:03:07] habibi : ups
[2016-03-05 18:04:04] splash : what does ups mean?
[2016-03-05 18:31:55] BTCDJS : splash: opposite of downs maybe? not sure. i don't speak english too deliciously
[2016-03-05 18:32:06] splash : :)
[2016-03-05 18:32:42] splash : ascending triangle, on eth, basing below 0.03 on kraken. higher lows basically. yea... this doesnt look like a crash at all
[2016-03-05 18:50:11] GurungBoi : so how do i close my current position at btimex @__@
[2016-03-05 18:50:35] splash : go the other way
[2016-03-05 18:50:41] splash : are u long or short now?
[2016-03-05 18:50:43] BTCDJS : GurungBoi: put in an order of the same amount on the opposite side
[2016-03-05 18:50:44] GurungBoi : long
[2016-03-05 18:50:51] splash : short for same amount
[2016-03-05 18:50:59] GurungBoi : has to be the same margin i assume?
[2016-03-05 18:51:00] splash : (not price, amount of contracts)
[2016-03-05 18:51:42] BTCDJS : GurungBoi: no if you want to close your long but also change into a short then put extra
[2016-03-05 18:51:45] splash : well dont close yet
[2016-03-05 18:51:57] splash : are u long eth?
[2016-03-05 18:52:00] splash : dont sell it yet
[2016-03-05 18:52:03] GurungBoi : yeah
[2016-03-05 18:52:07] GurungBoi : just tasting the interace really
[2016-03-05 18:52:08] GurungBoi : lol
[2016-03-05 18:52:09] splash : just dont
[2016-03-05 18:52:13] GurungBoi : testing*
[2016-03-05 18:52:20] splash : but... when price rallies up from here, then sell
[2016-03-05 18:52:32] splash : it shows _no_ signs of weakness
[2016-03-05 18:53:04] splash : actually looks like its going to attempt to go higher very very soon
[2016-03-05 18:53:17] splash : like within 1 hour, possibly 5 minutes
[2016-03-05 18:54:14] splash : i wouldnt know about the margin though. i thinkk not. just sell the contracts
[2016-03-05 18:54:29] splash : its NOT the same as okconin
[2016-03-05 18:55:27] GurungBoi : lool
[2016-03-05 18:55:39] GurungBoi : like i said just testing thei nterace
[2016-03-05 18:59:43] AudibleScience : anyone here arbing between kraken and polo?
[2016-03-05 19:02:52] AudibleScience : there is still +50k eth @ 0.02970 on kraken
[2016-03-05 19:09:35] splash : no arb
[2016-03-05 19:09:41] splash : dont even know how to do it
[2016-03-05 19:09:55] splash : same with market making. how on earth do they do it
[2016-03-05 19:21:04] habibi : splash: fe sell higher buy lower at same time, diffrence is ur profit
[2016-03-05 19:25:21] tscha : Chinese starting to realize whats going on I guess
[2016-03-05 19:26:19] habibi : tscha: could u expand?
[2016-03-05 19:26:41] kb1985 : chinese realising there is trainagle forming begining of an uptrend, thats what he meant i guess
[2016-03-05 19:27:13] tscha : Huge post of Jihan Wu (Antpool) in Chinese forums, taking side with Classic, pointing out Blockstream involvement in protocol development, warns of Core-centralization, says that Antpool is currently working on letting their users vote
[2016-03-05 19:27:32] tscha : Took them a few months, but better late then never
[2016-03-05 19:28:22] tscha : Not sure though if price will suffer because they start to realize how bad the situation is, or recover since the western community sees hope in a change now
[2016-03-05 19:29:14] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 100 @ 399.96
[2016-03-05 19:34:41] kb1985 : best thing about ETH is that it is no stress coin, no matter the dips it always go higher after all
[2016-03-05 19:34:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 34 @ 0.02984
[2016-03-05 19:37:18] habibi : kb1985: yep, i heard unlimited money ins going there :) best thing about that coin is they have problems with buying 100k wall which is 1/600 of presale coins :)
[2016-03-05 19:38:59] habibi : tscha: anyway nice, how u follow china communities? translator?
[2016-03-05 19:39:16] tscha : has been posted on reddit somewhere
[2016-03-05 19:39:35] habibi : yea but seems like u still follow china forums at their native?
[2016-03-05 19:40:31] tscha : I don't speak Chinese. But at /r/btc there are Chinese guys that continously translate the top threads from 8btc.com (most important Chinese forum) with all replies etc.
[2016-03-05 19:40:49] tscha : sometimes interesting, sometimes shocking
[2016-03-05 19:41:26] habibi : thanks for info, didnt know i can get sth usefull from /btc/ despite crying how core is bad and how classic is great :p
[2016-03-05 19:47:16] georgehosterguy : I just doubled my bitcoin with eth long ... do I get out or stay in?
[2016-03-05 19:48:08] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq read first
[2016-03-05 19:49:18] AudibleScience : georgehosterguy: how many contracts? I'd stay in if it were a good position
[2016-03-05 19:49:40] GurungBoi : if btc moons
[2016-03-05 19:49:45] GurungBoi : eth will surely go down sady
[2016-03-05 19:50:04] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 1500 @ 402.57
[2016-03-05 19:50:13] habibi : problem with eth is no liquidity without mm
[2016-03-05 19:52:16] AudibleScience : I think when that wall on kraken is done eth is going to pop again a bit higher
[2016-03-05 19:52:54] GurungBoi : the kraken walls
[2016-03-05 19:52:59] GurungBoi : have alwaysbeen a good indicator thou
[2016-03-05 19:53:07] GurungBoi : the last one was at 0.0825or something
[2016-03-05 19:53:22] GurungBoi : it hit and got half eaten and went to what it is today.
[2016-03-05 19:55:38] AudibleScience : GurungBoi: 0.08 when man?
[2016-03-05 19:55:53] GurungBoi : awhile ago
[2016-03-05 19:55:56] GurungBoi : when btc rallied
[2016-03-05 19:56:20] jung1 : basicly no orders on eth
[2016-03-05 19:56:20] habibi : 0.008 is what he means
[2016-03-05 19:56:40] GurungBoi : oops
[2016-03-05 19:56:41] GurungBoi : yeah
[2016-03-05 19:56:53] GurungBoi : 0.00815
[2016-03-05 19:59:40] georgehosterguy : AudibleScience: 430 contracts. I didn't bet the farm on it
[2016-03-05 20:03:54] AudibleScience : georgehosterguy: tidy, where are you long from?
[2016-03-05 20:04:13] splash : 430... thats an incredible amount
[2016-03-05 20:04:25] splash : you have to be like big players
[2016-03-05 20:04:51] AudibleScience : splash: that's less that a coin mate!
[2016-03-05 20:05:41] splash : less then a coin?!
[2016-03-05 20:05:48] splash : how do u mean?
[2016-03-05 20:06:11] georgehosterguy : AudibleScience: 254
[2016-03-05 20:06:24] splash : 254 contracts 1 btc margin?
[2016-03-05 20:06:46] habibi : 25x margin now
[2016-03-05 20:06:55] georgehosterguy : splash: no 2btc margin .... I don't like to lose it all on bit lurches
[2016-03-05 20:07:08] justinlooking : stops are for buses
[2016-03-05 20:07:22] splash : yea i guess
[2016-03-05 20:07:28] splash : not that extreme amount
[2016-03-05 20:08:01] georgehosterguy : splash: no not at all ... I turned 2500 into 5k then lost it all here once ....
[2016-03-05 20:08:04] splash : oohhh i remember the times when I was testing out my trading bot and lost 20 bitcoins on it.
[2016-03-05 20:08:12] splash : i didnt care
[2016-03-05 20:08:18] georgehosterguy : splash: and I'm tiny in the grand scheme of things
[2016-03-05 20:08:42] georgehosterguy : splash: lol yep. I know I'm tiny ....
[2016-03-05 20:08:43] splash : a btc didnt cost anything back then, so who cares.... now I think it wasnt so smart, especially since the bot never worked
[2016-03-05 20:09:24] splash : my friends kind of sorry though, he was subscribed to the cyphyperphunks lists whatever but missed the bitcoin thing
[2016-03-05 20:09:52] splash : mostly people running their hardware hot he rember. he never tried it himeslf. lol
[2016-03-05 20:32:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 399.00
[2016-03-05 20:55:54] splash : i need to go to sleep. crash or spike, whatever
[2016-03-05 20:56:07] splash : no emotions
[2016-03-05 20:58:52] jung1 : just buy eth
[2016-03-05 20:58:56] jung1 : end sleep well
[2016-03-05 21:00:20] splash : lol
[2016-03-05 21:00:33] splash : yea. probably the safest bet ever
[2016-03-05 21:00:40] splash : no where near a spetacular crash
[2016-03-05 21:01:36] jung1 : in two days we will hit 1bln market cap