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[2016-02-26 16:15:24] sleger : arbitrage001: so for you most of the world gdp is in asia now ? lol
[2016-02-26 16:15:33] rapidtrades : Tulip_stefan: not a fan of sarcasm huh
[2016-02-26 16:15:51] Tulip_stefan : no.
[2016-02-26 16:15:57] arbitrage001 : china alone become largest importer and exporter a few years ago
[2016-02-26 16:16:00] sleger : it's like when i called tscha out with his own quotes, just admit it rapid ;)
[2016-02-26 16:16:55] sleger : arbitrage001: ok so the action is where you can buy 1$ tshirt and 50$ fake vuitton bags, cool
[2016-02-26 16:17:52] arbitrage001 : sleger: used to sell low quality goods, that is no longer the case
[2016-02-26 16:18:35] arbitrage001 : sleger: dont forget many of the bitcoin ASIC manfactures are from china
[2016-02-26 16:20:06] sleger : yes and bitcoin is so important in global economy
[2016-02-26 16:20:54] arbitrage001 : the foundation needed to support ASIC industry is
[2016-02-26 16:21:12] sleger : ASIC is relevant in global economy ?
[2016-02-26 16:21:42] Tulip_stefan : Asics are pretty popular in embedded stuff.
[2016-02-26 16:21:49] arbitrage001 : for high tech industry
[2016-02-26 16:22:00] arbitrage001 : everyone phone you used
[2016-02-26 16:22:09] arbitrage001 : every phone
[2016-02-26 16:22:21] arbitrage001 : appliance in your home
[2016-02-26 16:23:42] arbitrage001 : military techology
[2016-02-26 16:24:08] Tulip_stefan : my country is actually the biggest exporter of lithography machines to build asics/chips/fpga's.
[2016-02-26 16:24:31] arbitrage001 : sweden?
[2016-02-26 16:24:37] Tulip_stefan : netherlands.
[2016-02-26 16:26:17] Tulip_stefan : hmm i can't find a source right now. I thought like 40% of the machines where designed created here.
[2016-02-26 16:26:48] arbitrage001 : very specialized trade
[2016-02-26 16:28:21] Tulip_stefan : for several years three firms have dominated the wafer patterning process known as photolithography: a Dutch firm, ASML Holding (40 percent market share during the first half of 2004), and two Japanese firms, Canon Inc. and Nikon Corp. (30 percent market share each)
[2016-02-26 16:28:25] Tulip_stefan : pretty old numbers.
[2016-02-26 16:29:36] arbitrage001 : 2004 is considered a long time ago
[2016-02-26 16:29:45] arbitrage001 : for technology
[2016-02-26 16:43:30] Tulip_stefan : It appears that bter finally died?
[2016-02-26 16:44:42] Tulip_stefan : service unavailable since 12/02 18:37:42. Haven't seen that error before i think.
[2016-02-26 16:46:41] Tulip_stefan : nah that's not true. It seems their website just returns a 503 for a few hours and then it goes back to working for a few days...
[2016-02-26 17:11:29] zanza : sleger: rofl
[2016-02-26 17:15:52] sleger : zanza: for which one ? I make so many jokes its hard to follow, even for me
[2016-02-26 17:46:29] zanza : way up, about the New York sweatshop
[2016-02-26 17:46:34] zanza : for penny stocks
[2016-02-26 17:55:39] sleger : ah yes our new scummer guy
[2016-02-26 18:01:39] PsychoMantis : Hi is bitmex the largest btc futures trading platform
[2016-02-26 18:02:38] sleger : it's quite easy to find volumes of platforms
[2016-02-26 18:04:12] PsychoMantis : sleger: I'm new to futures and wanna give it a go
[2016-02-26 18:04:52] sleger : so do it
[2016-02-26 18:05:09] sleger : you have my blessing
[2016-02-26 18:05:23] PsychoMantis : Thanks
[2016-02-26 18:05:43] habibi : hey PsychoMantis, good to have ur money here. just do typical market order for 50k contracts whether u think market will go up or down so long/short. but please announce it first here before putting order
[2016-02-26 18:06:17] habibi : its how big players makes money here:)
[2016-02-26 18:06:48] sleger : and you've met the official troll
[2016-02-26 18:10:33] tscha : PsychoMantis: click help on top bar and read the references/guides first
[2016-02-26 18:43:31] viptrader : any manager here?
[2016-02-26 18:45:11] viptrader : something happened to my funs, can u check??
[2016-02-26 18:45:23] viptrader : also order was rejected
[2016-02-26 18:53:39] zanza : what do you mean viptrader?
[2016-02-26 18:57:18] rapidtrades : viptrader: I have your funs
[2016-02-26 18:59:07] rapidtrades : plz send monies to my bitcoin address and I will give back said funs
[2016-02-26 19:06:12] sleger : lol
[2016-02-26 19:28:23] gielbier : funs++
[2016-02-26 19:45:13] BitMEX_Greg : Hi viptrader, can you please submit a support request and we will get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks
[2016-02-26 19:48:34] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: who are u
[2016-02-26 19:52:57] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: do you have his funs?
[2016-02-26 19:59:07] jesperf : i would like to have some funs
[2016-02-26 20:03:02] Rizky : hi Greg
[2016-02-26 20:03:06] Rizky : can we get an introduction please
[2016-02-26 20:03:59] rapidtrades : yeah Greg, do you like funs?
[2016-02-26 20:04:25] rapidtrades : Is that why you took viptrader's funs?
[2016-02-26 20:04:41] Rizky : how do I get VIP trader status?
[2016-02-26 20:05:29] rapidtrades : Rizky: having a giant ego is one way
[2016-02-26 20:06:08] Rizky : I thought maybe there's some minimum threshold of funs you need to hold
[2016-02-26 20:06:10] habibi : Rizky: u need to trade only market orders with atleast 10% of average open interest was ur position in last 30 days.
[2016-02-26 20:06:39] rapidtrades : Rizky: I think it's three funs actually...maybe Greg can confirm
[2016-02-26 20:08:28] Rizky : BitMEX_Greg: can you confirm?
[2016-02-26 20:08:59] BitMEX_Greg : Heya, I'm helping out on some of the new products being launched by BitMex.
[2016-02-26 20:10:28] habibi : thanks for confirmation Greg! :)
[2016-02-26 20:10:53] rapidtrades : funs coming confirmed!
[2016-02-26 20:14:02] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: so could u disclosure a bit about whats coming into bitmex?
[2016-02-26 20:48:47] BitMEX_Greg : Well we have just successfully launched the China A50 futures contract, and also the XBT48H contract for users who wish to roll their positions easily. Once users are more comfortable with the rolling, we will be looking at listing the actual 24H_48H roll contract which will be much more cost effective to roll positions.
[2016-02-26 20:49:45] sleger : are you going to display the size of the insurance fund ? @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-02-26 20:50:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 180 @ 423.27
[2016-02-26 20:50:49] BitMEX_Greg : That's not a question I can answer, but I believe it is a topic that is going to be discussed between Arthur, Sam and Wally
[2016-02-26 20:53:14] sleger : not sure why there even need to be a discussion given that its money that belongs to customers
[2016-02-26 21:01:48] mwalshe99 : guys the interface hangs everytime i try and trade
[2016-02-26 21:02:49] mwalshe99 : gregg?
[2016-02-26 21:03:08] BitMEX_Greg : Hi mwalshe99, what browser are you using?
[2016-02-26 21:03:12] mwalshe99 : chrome
[2016-02-26 21:03:30] mwalshe99 : 48.0
[2016-02-26 21:03:32] BitMEX_Greg : Please ensure it is updated, we are not having any issues on our end
[2016-02-26 21:04:04] BitMEX_Greg : What hanging problems are you specifically having
[2016-02-26 21:04:32] mwalshe99 : the ui just becomes unresponsive
[2016-02-26 21:04:36] mwalshe99 : its fixed now
[2016-02-26 21:04:48] mwalshe99 : isnt the first time its happened
[2016-02-26 21:05:03] mwalshe99 : any reason you think why?
[2016-02-26 21:07:56] BitMEX_Greg : Not
[2016-02-26 21:08:11] BitMEX_Greg : Not too sure* Try monitoring your RAM and CPU usage when you are experiencing the hangups
[2016-02-26 21:08:25] BitMEX_Greg : Chrome can sometimes take up a fair bit of RAM
[2016-02-26 21:13:15] mwalshe99 : ram and cpu usage is minimal
[2016-02-26 21:14:28] mwalshe99 : ever had any cases of orders not being submitted and not being able to tab between positions, closed potisions, active orders ect
[2016-02-26 21:14:42] mwalshe99 : refresh fixes the ui but still cant submiy
[2016-02-26 21:14:45] mwalshe99 : submit*
[2016-02-26 21:14:46] sleger : chrome as well and zero issue
[2016-02-26 21:15:00] mwalshe99 : dont think its chrome :/
[2016-02-26 21:15:03] Tulip_stefan : no issues here with firefox
[2016-02-26 21:15:15] mwalshe99 : my wifi isn't great, could be that?
[2016-02-26 21:15:39] BitMEX_Greg : Not to my knowledge, please keep monitoring and if the problem persists perhaps submit a support request and we can try to look into the backend of your account to see whats happened
[2016-02-26 21:17:13] mwalshe99 : next time it happens ill find out whats wrong
[2016-02-26 21:17:19] sleger : mwalshe99: try another computer
[2016-02-26 21:17:35] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: i have a sore tummy. any ideas what it could be?
[2016-02-26 21:17:53] BitMEX_Greg : What did you have for lunch?
[2016-02-26 21:17:55] sleger : BTCDJS: you swallowed your mouse ?
[2016-02-26 21:17:58] mwalshe99 : BTCDJS: hep b
[2016-02-26 21:18:15] BTCDJS : indian food
[2016-02-26 21:19:04] BitMEX_Greg : get your mobile out and trade on the toilet
[2016-02-26 21:19:17] BTCDJS : ok
[2016-02-26 21:19:39] mwalshe99 : thats some submissive shit
[2016-02-26 21:20:58] mwalshe99 : its hanging while the order is being sent
[2016-02-26 21:21:09] BTCDJS : mwalshe99: he knows what he's doing. Thats what he is here for. to help us with our problems
[2016-02-26 21:21:11] mwalshe99 : sounds like a ui issue
[2016-02-26 21:21:22] mwalshe99 : BTCDJS: i know :)
[2016-02-26 21:21:26] mwalshe99 : just trying to help solve a problem
[2016-02-26 21:21:46] BitMEX_Greg : Doesn't seem like other traders are currently experiencing any problems. Can you try another computer / another internet connection point
[2016-02-26 21:22:01] rapidtrades : i had problems cancelling an order earlier
[2016-02-26 21:22:06] habibi : just try use vivaldi, should use less ram and its much faster browser imo
[2016-02-26 21:22:12] rapidtrades : could be bad connection tho
[2016-02-26 21:22:12] BTCDJS : have you tried hitting the screen with a flat hand? used to always work on the tv when i was a kid
[2016-02-26 21:22:20] mwalshe99 : rapidtrades: +1
[2016-02-26 21:22:37] mwalshe99 : i think its a bad connection
[2016-02-26 21:22:43] mwalshe99 : but ui shouldn't hang
[2016-02-26 21:22:49] mwalshe99 : should still be able to navigate
[2016-02-26 21:23:14] habibi : anyway BitMEX_Greg u are a specialist in bringing old ui back, right?
[2016-02-26 21:23:15] mwalshe99 : maybe a connection issue notice
[2016-02-26 21:23:29] rapidtrades : has anyone made some premium selling or bought discount on the daily lately? I haven't seen any opportunities in the past few days
[2016-02-26 21:23:42] mwalshe99 : why can't we just have a choice between the UIs?
[2016-02-26 21:24:03] rapidtrades : dam $3 on the roll, juicy
[2016-02-26 21:24:04] habibi : there was some guy on 24h 3 days ago or sth like that. bough up to 430-431 with some nice bids as well
[2016-02-26 21:24:20] rapidtrades : yeah missed that, did u get some
[2016-02-26 21:24:34] habibi : yea a bit, anyway next day i saw he got liquidated in the morning
[2016-02-26 21:26:13] rapidtrades : dam liquidity rly dropped on the weekly after the roll
[2016-02-26 21:27:39] habibi : 67k open interest in first day is not that bad, and liquidity there was always pretty fucked up
[2016-02-26 21:28:01] habibi : funny is we have same premium on 7d as on rollover
[2016-02-26 21:29:12] rapidtrades : one is too high, one is too low
[2016-02-26 21:29:22] rapidtrades : the question is which one :)
[2016-02-26 21:30:30] BTCDJS : higher no lower, argh i can't decide.
[2016-02-26 21:30:42] habibi : lets leave that as mystery without answer :)
[2016-02-26 21:30:47] rapidtrades : guess that means market expects volatility in next two days and then none
[2016-02-26 21:31:01] rapidtrades : seems about right
[2016-02-26 21:33:37] habibi : eh and premium bot is off
[2016-02-26 21:33:59] rapidtrades : what does that mean @habibi
[2016-02-26 21:34:11] habibi : no more 7k orders on rollover
[2016-02-26 21:34:17] habibi : bids*
[2016-02-26 21:34:24] rapidtrades : ah yes
[2016-02-26 21:34:33] rapidtrades : he's full i guess
[2016-02-26 21:35:16] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: how's it going? did u roof today?
[2016-02-26 21:36:08] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: yeah mate. did a roof by the see side.
[2016-02-26 21:39:00] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: that's a good side
[2016-02-26 21:39:57] BTCDJS : yeah otherwise id bump in to things lol sea*
[2016-02-26 21:42:43] habibi : rapidtrades: so basically arb between 24h and 48h is possible right?
[2016-02-26 21:43:45] Tulip_stefan : Thought about that. if the 24h is accurately priced, it makes no sense to arbitrage them.
[2016-02-26 21:44:31] Tulip_stefan : whether the 24h is accurately priced... ehhh. I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader.
[2016-02-26 21:45:14] rapidtrades : Tulip_stefan: please don't use that expression ever again
[2016-02-26 21:45:42] Tulip_stefan : I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader.
[2016-02-26 21:49:54] Tulip_stefan : Some things are more fun to figure out yourself.
[2016-02-26 22:01:41] rapidtrades : still can't believe they stuck with this UI after so much pushback
[2016-02-26 22:02:00] rapidtrades : not even an option for the old one
[2016-02-26 22:19:22] jesperf : come on dude, it will get better. it's not going to last forever
[2016-02-26 22:21:31] jesperf : what *I* can't believe is how I bought a 512GB SSD and got home with a 256GB SSD. and when I got back to the store they had given my 512GB to someone who bought a 256GB one.
[2016-02-26 22:28:04] sleger : why is the index at 426 still ?
[2016-02-26 22:29:09] habibi : coz coinbase and okc has the most influence this time :D lel
[2016-02-26 22:29:43] sleger : alright let me buy some coinz at 0kc
[2016-02-26 22:39:46] kingscrown : finex 433
[2016-02-26 22:43:34] rapidtrades : did it print 433?
[2016-02-26 22:43:39] rapidtrades : or are u calling it
[2016-02-26 22:44:12] habibi : he has 16 min lag
[2016-02-26 22:45:57] mwalshe99 : gox just made 6000
[2016-02-26 22:48:07] zanza : habibi: You can check here if the Xiaomi Mi 5 will work in your area http://willmyphonework.net/
[2016-02-26 22:48:21] zanza : the official LTE bands are still not exactly sure yet though
[2016-02-26 22:50:09] habibi : zanza: most phones are ok with 1800/2100 bands, its pretty common ones, dont have that problem
[2016-02-26 22:52:21] rapidtrades : yeah finex is the odd bird this time
[2016-02-26 23:08:30] rapidtrades : IS THAT ALL
[2016-02-26 23:08:52] rapidtrades : you're just gonna sit there, right below 430
[2016-02-26 23:09:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 428 @ 427.18
[2016-02-26 23:09:52] rapidtrades : I made it angry
[2016-02-26 23:12:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 70 @ 431.49
[2016-02-26 23:20:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 50 @ 429.46
[2016-02-26 23:35:21] Satah : common support
[2016-02-26 23:35:41] Satah : u need to put some liquidity to XBT7D
[2016-02-26 23:36:01] Satah : Ask 650
[2016-02-26 23:36:28] rapidtrades : all better?
[2016-02-27 00:05:00] mwalshe99 : how do we find the annualised basis percentage rate?
[2016-02-27 00:14:09] rapidtrades : mwalshe99: is ur chat on the left?
[2016-02-27 00:14:11] gouda : when does withheld profit get released
[2016-02-27 00:14:19] gouda : i think i read every 8 hours is that correct?
[2016-02-27 00:14:33] rapidtrades : gouda: right but it's done on a manual basis
[2016-02-27 00:14:51] gouda : so it could be done sooner depending where that cycle is at
[2016-02-27 00:15:29] rapidtrades : gouda: sooner prolly not
[2016-02-27 00:16:07] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: q
[2016-02-27 00:16:26] gouda : ok thanks rapid
[2016-02-27 00:16:43] mwalshe99 : thanks rapid
[2016-02-27 00:16:53] rapidtrades : :))
[2016-02-27 00:17:44] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we aim to unlock 50% of realised PNL at the end of each 8 hour session
[2016-02-27 00:18:18] BitMEX_Wally : Of course, after settlement or weekly rebalance all PNL is moved to your wallet
[2016-02-27 00:20:20] BitMEX_Wally : mwalshe99: the annualised fair basis rate is not shown on the UI but you can get it from the API
[2016-02-27 00:22:56] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/instrument?symbol=XBTM16&columns=fairBasisRate
[2016-02-27 00:23:22] BitMEX_Wally : 0.73 means an annualised rate of 73%
[2016-02-27 00:24:52] BitMEX_Wally : Which is over $100 of basis (for a June expiry)
[2016-02-27 00:28:26] mrp1nk : Called it!
[2016-02-27 00:29:05] mrp1nk : Yes!!!
[2016-02-27 00:42:30] rapidtrades : mrp1nk: u riding?
[2016-02-27 00:52:32] rapidtrades : WHO'S RIDING THIS B1TCH WITH ME!
[2016-02-27 00:54:43] rapidtrades : lol everyone went to bed right before the pump
[2016-02-27 01:46:49] mrp1nk : Yea, i'm still riding. Was not in front of the computer till now. Nice so far.
[2016-02-27 02:09:07] XBT_IHCT : you still here @rapidtrades
[2016-02-27 02:28:38] PsychoMantis : hi guys when using the calculator buying a 1000 contracts at $420 and sell at $433 gives me a P/L of 0.1300 XBT and my ROE is 310% am i making 0.1300 XBT per contract or in total?
[2016-02-27 02:32:14] arbitrage001 : dangerous to trade if you don't know how to calculate basis
[2016-02-27 02:35:41] PsychoMantis : arbitrage001: if you dont ask questions you'll never learn
[2016-02-27 02:37:50] arbitrage001 : PsychoMantis: future contracts are highly leverage speculating instrument. Beginner should start at spot market
[2016-02-27 03:02:49] mthandeni : any advise for a beginner here
[2016-02-27 03:25:10] greensonic_04 : hi anyone can show me where can i find the closed position for my active order. cant find it
[2016-02-27 03:33:08] elmorte : If it's active, it's not closed yet @greensonic_04
[2016-02-27 03:34:49] greensonic_04 : i mean when its active how can i closed the order..
[2016-02-27 03:35:29] XBT_IHCT : greensonic_04: if you're long sell the same number of contracts to close your position...
[2016-02-27 03:36:09] XBT_IHCT : greensonic_04: if you're short then buy the same number of contracts to close your short.
[2016-02-27 03:37:25] XBT_IHCT : greensonic_04: do you understand now?
[2016-02-27 03:40:39] greensonic_04 : ahh i see so theres no closed botton unlike before?
[2016-02-27 03:41:24] j8 : greensonic_04: you can select Close Market or Close Limit in the order controls
[2016-02-27 03:41:41] XBT_IHCT : greensonic_04: in the drop down
[2016-02-27 04:23:24] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-26/why-hedge-fund-manager-who-made-killing-subprime-buying-bitcoin
[2016-02-27 09:11:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1230 @ 432.60
[2016-02-27 09:13:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6 @ 432.20
[2016-02-27 09:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 111 @ 431.97
[2016-02-27 09:22:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2500 @ 431.58
[2016-02-27 11:53:05] rapidtrades : zanza: http://news.forexlive.com/!/g20-dijsselbloem-says-g20-nations-agreed-to-warn-each-other-of-devaluation-policies-20160227
[2016-02-27 11:59:50] rapidtrades : what a shitty settlement man
[2016-02-27 12:00:00] chromaticcr : +1
[2016-02-27 12:00:48] chromaticcr : settlement trade pl, +0.007BTC
[2016-02-27 12:01:13] rapidtrades : no idea where u squeezed that from
[2016-02-27 12:01:44] chromaticcr : I bumped into a hidden order of 1k when placing a post-only
[2016-02-27 12:01:55] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-02-27 12:21:09] mrp1nk : <- still hodling
[2016-02-27 13:38:42] viptrader : any manager here?
[2016-02-27 13:52:50] viptrader : ??
[2016-02-27 14:27:29] viptrader : why my orders rejected
[2016-02-27 14:27:30] viptrader : @
[2016-02-27 14:33:12] jung1 : damn
[2016-02-27 14:33:22] jung1 : eth dont give a fuck about btc price
[2016-02-27 14:33:26] jung1 : love it
[2016-02-27 14:34:46] sleger : viptrader: you need to get VIP status first to be able to place orders
[2016-02-27 14:35:18] sleger : I just checked and right now your status is "peasant"
[2016-02-27 14:39:45] jung1 : yeah you have to write more on trollbox to make it faster
[2016-02-27 16:00:43] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/47v17v/1220000_eth_hit_poloniex_wallet_20_hours_ago/
[2016-02-27 16:00:55] jung1 : sell your eth guys
[2016-02-27 16:08:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 309 @ 0.01500
[2016-02-27 16:17:19] viptrader : Would short eth here
[2016-02-27 16:18:15] viptrader : 152 is a really good price to short it
[2016-02-27 16:18:17] habibi : permission granted, dont have to ask me again viptrader. go on
[2016-02-27 16:19:19] mrp1nk : i will wait till 0.0157
[2016-02-27 16:19:49] jung1 : yeah
[2016-02-27 16:20:02] jung1 : $10 is not impossible
[2016-02-27 16:20:12] jung1 : imo
[2016-02-27 16:31:05] mrp1nk : viptrader: you're shorting ether since 0.013, don't you?
[2016-02-27 16:39:51] justinlooking : i strapped keyboard interaction onto sam's python mm bot. anyone want copy?
[2016-02-27 16:41:52] sleger : jung1: 1.2m eth is less than 200k$
[2016-02-27 16:42:22] sleger : and even less than 20k$ !
[2016-02-27 16:42:25] habibi : sleger: do the math
[2016-02-27 16:42:35] sleger : habibi: the math was right
[2016-02-27 16:42:38] habibi : its pretty simple, believe me
[2016-02-27 16:42:56] habibi : lets say eth now is at 6$, 1.2m x 6$ is?
[2016-02-27 16:43:10] jung1 : +1
[2016-02-27 16:43:11] justinlooking : lol 14
[2016-02-27 16:43:13] jung1 : 1.5 days of volume on poloniex
[2016-02-27 16:43:25] jung1 : cant ignore it'
[2016-02-27 16:44:01] sleger : "habibi: lets say eth now is at 6$, 1.2m x 6$ is?" how can you say such stupid things...
[2016-02-27 16:44:12] habibi : sleger explain?
[2016-02-27 16:44:22] sleger : let's say eth is 60, do you know what it's higher than ? @habibi
[2016-02-27 16:44:43] habibi : http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/ sorry it's 6.5$
[2016-02-27 16:44:48] jung1 : 1eth = $6.4 now
[2016-02-27 16:45:01] jung1 : or 5.98 euro
[2016-02-27 16:45:31] justinlooking : are u confusing eth with another alt sleger?
[2016-02-27 16:45:48] sleger : oh its less than 20k btc...
[2016-02-27 16:45:58] habibi : he is just too over powered about his ego
[2016-02-27 16:46:04] habibi : ohh mistake
[2016-02-27 16:46:10] jung1 : 17,690 BTC at current price
[2016-02-27 16:47:01] sleger : sometimes it's good to be reminded you're human. Spending too much time reading this chat can give you the impression that you're god...
[2016-02-27 16:47:41] habibi : nice try
[2016-02-27 16:48:43] justinlooking : sleger: this bot sounds like it would be any use to you? come on testnet i'll show u what it does
[2016-02-27 16:48:59] sleger : what bot ?
[2016-02-27 16:49:17] justinlooking : sam's mm with keyb interaction
[2016-02-27 16:50:05] sleger : not sure what you mean by that
[2016-02-27 16:50:41] sleger : im there
[2016-02-27 18:06:31] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/47vi5u/predicting_900_eth_within_72_hours_of_homestead/
[2016-02-27 18:06:40] jung1 : habibi:
[2016-02-27 18:07:04] habibi : sell the news :)
[2016-02-27 18:07:57] habibi : u expecting way too much from eth :)
[2016-02-27 18:10:55] jung1 : easy
[2016-02-27 18:11:08] jung1 : Homestead will be officially annouced 1st of march
[2016-02-27 18:11:40] habibi : ok ok, how it will affect the price?
[2016-02-27 18:12:17] jung1 : imo pump to 9-10$
[2016-02-27 18:12:33] jung1 : and dump to 5 maybe 4
[2016-02-27 18:12:47] jung1 : and back on the bull
[2016-02-27 18:14:12] habibi : my point is u how will make it happen to flow more money into eth?
[2016-02-27 18:16:23] jung1 : grow of ecosystem
[2016-02-27 18:17:16] jung1 : even bitcoin now is hipster technology and I bet that maybe 30% of bitcoiners know eth
[2016-02-27 18:20:37] BTCDJS : jung1: I think you have a point. And that may say a lot to @habibi
[2016-02-27 18:21:03] BTCDJS : ?
[2016-02-27 18:24:48] habibi : maybe u right, future will show :) just comparing volume to eth cap then eth cap to btc cap
[2016-02-27 18:24:58] habibi : i feel we are in the bubble that had already ath
[2016-02-27 18:29:20] jung1 : shure its bubble
[2016-02-27 18:29:34] jung1 : http://etherscan.io/address/0xb794f5ea0ba39494ce839613fffba74279579268 another polo wallet
[2016-02-27 18:29:42] BTCDJS : habibi: maybe because so far alts have been this way and there has always been this kind of talk around them. I think eth is different. It's a lot more useful than other alts. Smart contracts, dapps, used as a fuel source rather than a currency.
[2016-02-27 18:29:43] jung1 : dump will be hard
[2016-02-27 18:30:35] habibi : BTCDJS: it doesnt change nothing, just more fuel for big fish to make bubble real
[2016-02-27 18:30:46] habibi : but bubble is bubble, it needs to fall hard.
[2016-02-27 18:30:54] jung1 : cant wait
[2016-02-27 18:31:21] habibi : BTCDJS: compare daily chart from polo fe, to that http://marketpredict.com/articles/images/bubble-lifecycle.gif
[2016-02-27 18:32:01] jung1 : saw it before our bet
[2016-02-27 18:32:08] jung1 : ;)
[2016-02-27 18:32:22] habibi : before our bad there was change to make higher top, now its already made lover one
[2016-02-27 18:32:44] BTCDJS : after dump I will buy and hold
[2016-02-27 18:32:59] jung1 : so far
[2016-02-27 18:33:11] jung1 : 0.02 at least
[2016-02-27 18:33:51] habibi : till end of this month?year? century?
[2016-02-27 18:34:12] jung1 : I think around 1st of march
[2016-02-27 18:35:15] BTCDJS : Eth has potential to go mainstream and augur too
[2016-02-27 18:36:48] habibi : tell me about augur how would people use that?
[2016-02-27 18:36:56] habibi : how would mainstream use that ?
[2016-02-27 18:39:01] BTCDJS : habibi: decentralised market prediction platform. Used to create markets on anything current in the mainstream. Sports, politics, economy all sorts. Not just crypto currency will be used to participate.
[2016-02-27 18:39:17] habibi : dont tell me that bullish shit :D
[2016-02-27 18:39:24] habibi : i wanna real examples :)
[2016-02-27 18:39:40] jung1 : speculation for example
[2016-02-27 18:39:43] jung1 : :)
[2016-02-27 18:39:51] habibi : real example !:)
[2016-02-27 18:40:05] habibi : not marketing/bullish stuff :p
[2016-02-27 18:41:21] BTCDJS : Being able to predict markets using wisdom of the crowd will change the world. I'm not talking about REP. I'm dumping all my REP on launch. Augur already won a mainstream award and the haven't even launched yet
[2016-02-27 18:42:23] BTCDJS : They plan to have any currency there to take part
[2016-02-27 18:42:37] habibi : real usability :)
[2016-02-27 18:42:47] BTCDJS : But it's still brand new so time will tell
[2016-02-27 18:43:17] habibi : as u can see all u see is marketing bullshit thing, u cant tell why people would use that,in what specific case would use and who exacly would use that :)
[2016-02-27 18:43:30] habibi : but no worries, thats how it works :) hype is hype
[2016-02-27 18:45:03] BTCDJS : habibi: fair point. It can always fail. But I see a future for it.
[2016-02-27 18:45:41] habibi : i just proofed u see only hype ;p
[2016-02-27 18:47:03] BTCDJS : No but I see how you think. Like a trader. I admit to be a dreamer. You may sniff at dreamers. But they are the ones who create amazing things we use today
[2016-02-27 18:49:58] jung1 : just go long on eth now
[2016-02-27 18:53:01] justinlooking : it's incredible how much has been built considering there's still 2 major releases planned after homestead
[2016-02-27 18:53:45] jung1 : yeah
[2016-02-27 18:53:59] jung1 : and during that price rise
[2016-02-27 18:54:22] jung1 : eth fundation could selffund for like 7 years
[2016-02-27 18:54:31] jung1 : win-win situation
[2016-02-27 18:54:50] jung1 : it could be next big coin after btc
[2016-02-27 18:54:55] jung1 : in couple of years
[2016-02-27 18:55:33] BTCDJS : justinlooking: exactly! Not even fully established and Microsoft is using it, augur is built on it, slock.it is built on it and has potential. I see Amazon using slock.it.
[2016-02-27 18:55:37] jung1 : Igood that we are here now
[2016-02-27 18:56:21] jung1 : well with microsoft azure basicly every blockchain could be implemented
[2016-02-27 18:58:16] BTCDJS : Driverless cars, fading out lawyers with smart contracts. Come on. Ethereum is a good investment. Very different from Bitcoin. Governments don't even know what to class Bitcoin as.
[2016-02-27 18:59:11] BTCDJS : But sending money anywhere instantly is amazing too
[2016-02-27 19:03:36] jung1 : there will be develope new banking standard based on blockchain technology
[2016-02-27 19:03:40] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: you'll never fade out lawyers imo, laws and contracts are very much open to interpretation...plus asshole will continue to break the law
[2016-02-27 19:04:01] jung1 : and projects like ripple and eth will help with it a lot
[2016-02-27 19:04:32] jung1 : rapidtrades: this is why smart contracs will be normal in couple of years
[2016-02-27 19:04:33] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: yeah i don't mean completely fade but they won't be required in some instances.
[2016-02-27 19:04:38] jung1 : no space for interpretation
[2016-02-27 19:05:04] habibi : jung1: so no need of courts in ur opinion?
[2016-02-27 19:05:30] BTCDJS : habibi: its not black and white
[2016-02-27 19:05:35] rapidtrades : there's always space for interpretation, because language is imperfect
[2016-02-27 19:05:45] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: deep
[2016-02-27 19:05:46] habibi : there need to be space for interpretation.
[2016-02-27 19:05:58] jung1 : habibi: maybe not fully
[2016-02-27 19:05:59] habibi : coz like BTCDJS said, its not black and white :)
[2016-02-27 19:06:11] jung1 : in math you dont have space for interpretation
[2016-02-27 19:06:16] jung1 : 2+2=4
[2016-02-27 19:06:25] jung1 : and you cant change it
[2016-02-27 19:06:32] jung1 : in any way
[2016-02-27 19:06:55] BTCDJS : habibi: don't try to take an intelligent statement by me and turn it into ammo for your argument
[2016-02-27 19:07:17] habibi : BTCDJS: so u don't agree with ur statement?
[2016-02-27 19:07:19] habibi : jung1: so what :D?
[2016-02-27 19:07:34] rapidtrades : lol habibi made another enemy?
[2016-02-27 19:07:41] Tulip_stefan : rapidtrades: that is why i spend most of my time conversing with a computer in a programming language. No space for interpretation there. Everything is specified.
[2016-02-27 19:07:54] BTCDJS : habibi: are you agreeing with me?
[2016-02-27 19:08:15] habibi : with black&white? totally
[2016-02-27 19:08:33] jung1 : habibi: so that if you will make smart contract and both sides will agree with all specification you cant change it by interpretation
[2016-02-27 19:08:34] rapidtrades : jung1: laws are not math though...
[2016-02-27 19:08:47] jung1 : yet
[2016-02-27 19:08:51] BTCDJS : ok just not sure in what context you were using it ?
[2016-02-27 19:08:55] habibi : jung1: so it will be very limited smart contracts that won't surpass law in any kind
[2016-02-27 19:09:36] Tulip_stefan : Laws have lots of room for interpretation. That is why we have judges that tell us how the laws must be interpreted...
[2016-02-27 19:09:52] BTCDJS : habibi: there are many things lawyers get involved in
[2016-02-27 19:09:58] rapidtrades : i don't see a way for smart contracts in this political climate, unless in some very narrow fashion like babibi says
[2016-02-27 19:10:02] Tulip_stefan : If the law was exact, no need for lawsuits.
[2016-02-27 19:10:30] rapidtrades : well no need for courts or lawyers yes...lawsuits will still exist
[2016-02-27 19:10:31] jung1 : it will be use in 3rd world countries
[2016-02-27 19:11:15] jung1 : and you will have for example land ownership in blockchain
[2016-02-27 19:11:18] rapidtrades : i wouldn't put my faith in the 3rd world, we see how that turned out with bitcoin
[2016-02-27 19:11:32] jung1 : give it a time
[2016-02-27 19:11:37] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: lawyers don't just interpret law in cases of criminality you know. they work with making contract to make them binding. if smart contracts are hard code written as to what they mean then a lower need not get involved
[2016-02-27 19:11:40] jung1 : bitcoin is 6yrs only
[2016-02-27 19:11:47] rapidtrades : this shitcoin is barely used for shopping outside the US
[2016-02-27 19:12:06] habibi : how u wanna ur smart contracts judge whether kid should stay with father/mother or both parents?
[2016-02-27 19:12:07] BTCDJS : but they will still be required for many other things
[2016-02-27 19:12:35] jung1 : habibi: shure you cant
[2016-02-27 19:12:45] habibi : so court will stay, thank u
[2016-02-27 19:12:58] jung1 : but birth act, could be easly made there
[2016-02-27 19:13:10] rapidtrades : if u want contracts to have no room for interpretation, you'll have to make them HUUUUUGE...and then you'll still need lawyers to create the contract for u
[2016-02-27 19:13:13] habibi : and what does it have to do with court?
[2016-02-27 19:13:28] habibi : jung1: ^
[2016-02-27 19:13:59] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you guys are only thinking of one aspect of lawyers job.
[2016-02-27 19:14:07] jung1 : I did not say that there is no need for court
[2016-02-27 19:14:15] jung1 : but it will be big improvement
[2016-02-27 19:14:19] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: you're right, banging hot chicks is the other
[2016-02-27 19:14:53] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-02-27 19:16:04] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 430.57
[2016-02-27 19:17:26] rapidtrades : imagine one day u go on zerohedge and it's all rainbows and sunshine
[2016-02-27 19:22:16] BTCDJS : imagining...?
[2016-02-27 19:23:18] habibi : so my point is its good to dream but as long as money is not involved:) as it is, better stay on ground
[2016-02-27 19:23:43] BTCDJS : ???
[2016-02-27 19:24:24] jung1 : if everyone will think in that way we will not tlak here now
[2016-02-27 19:24:41] habibi : don't worry, everyone won't think that way :)
[2016-02-27 19:24:57] habibi : i can assure u :)
[2016-02-27 19:25:09] elmorte : Good stuff :)
[2016-02-27 19:25:13] BTCDJS : habibi: you don't have to put all your money on something. and also just dreaming is stupid but if you see a potential then invest. you don't. so don't invest
[2016-02-27 19:30:52] Tulip_stefan : I just visited hitbtc's site for the first time in a year, and it's completely broken. Charts don't load. Trades not visible, order controls broken. What the hell happened?
[2016-02-27 19:31:34] Tulip_stefan : Looking through their last trades, it sure looks like someone is losing a lot of money manipulating the market. But why?
[2016-02-27 19:32:57] Tulip_stefan : really sad an exchange with such a good api is this crappy..
[2016-02-27 19:37:33] habibi : didnt they got hack?
[2016-02-27 19:40:59] jung1 : cant wait for some openbaazar for crypto
[2016-02-27 19:41:06] jung1 : decentralized exchanges
[2016-02-27 19:41:17] BTCDJS : has anybody heard about start pump?
[2016-02-27 19:41:28] jung1 : no
[2016-02-27 19:41:45] BTCDJS : jung1: apparently start is going to pump
[2016-02-27 19:41:55] jung1 : there was like 2yrs ago also
[2016-02-27 19:42:00] jung1 : or 1 year
[2016-02-27 19:42:03] BTCDJS : alvin lee and co on twitter are talking about it
[2016-02-27 19:42:09] jung1 : that guy from uk hyped it
[2016-02-27 19:42:20] jung1 : forget the name
[2016-02-27 19:42:30] BTCDJS : jung1: i know but periodically it pumps
[2016-02-27 19:42:59] jung1 : meh
[2016-02-27 19:42:59] BTCDJS : it goes from 1m market cap to 5m
[2016-02-27 19:43:09] jung1 : yes I remember
[2016-02-27 19:43:30] habibi : keiser
[2016-02-27 19:43:30] habibi : max
[2016-02-27 19:43:45] BTCDJS : yes but forget about him. coin pumps
[2016-02-27 19:43:46] jung1 : yeah
[2016-02-27 19:43:52] jung1 : keiser
[2016-02-27 19:43:57] habibi : his first alt coin hyped was litecoin as i remember
[2016-02-27 19:44:09] BTCDJS : not maxcoin?
[2016-02-27 19:44:12] jung1 : yes up to 42$
[2016-02-27 19:44:22] jung1 : maxcoin, startcoin, start2.0
[2016-02-27 19:44:29] jung1 : on mcxnow
[2016-02-27 19:44:39] habibi : litecoin->maxcoin-> and startcoin didnt even get a nice pump due to enormous premine that he hold - 50% of cap
[2016-02-27 19:44:47] BTCDJS : monero is pumping too
[2016-02-27 19:45:01] jung1 : monero is also good long term bet
[2016-02-27 19:45:51] BTCDJS : and they say maid is pumping as well
[2016-02-27 19:47:24] jung1 : who said that?
[2016-02-27 19:47:57] BTCDJS : jung1: same people i mentioned before. alvin lee doesn't talk shit
[2016-02-27 19:48:45] BTCDJS : i follow a few but i can't remember their names. they have been right about bitcoin and eth as well as a few more coins
[2016-02-27 19:49:04] BTCDJS : @onemanatatime on twitter
[2016-02-27 19:51:22] BTCDJS : heres the list of coins to look out for. xmr, str, dcr,start, verge,bts
[2016-02-27 19:51:35] jung1 : yeah there is a lot of account that announce pump
[2016-02-27 19:52:02] jung1 : + xrp, eth, fct
[2016-02-27 19:52:07] jung1 : whats verge?
[2016-02-27 19:52:12] BTCDJS : no idea
[2016-02-27 19:52:25] jung1 : decred could be nice also
[2016-02-27 19:53:28] jung1 : I should make own coin
[2016-02-27 19:53:50] BTCDJS : jung1: yeah make pump and dump like an asshole
[2016-02-27 19:54:08] jung1 : profit coin PFRT: if you buy it you have a profit
[2016-02-27 19:54:17] BTCDJS : lol
[2016-02-27 19:54:30] BTCDJS : you need better marketing than that
[2016-02-27 19:54:42] jung1 : presake for trollbox users only
[2016-02-27 19:54:47] elmorte : jung1: take all my money
[2016-02-27 19:55:05] jung1 : 3BMEX8wPEEwd13UFcUcHupHaEXYnpBpD3R
[2016-02-27 19:55:27] elmorte : Hehe
[2016-02-27 19:55:34] BTCDJS : jung1: sending you 1000 bitdabloons now
[2016-02-27 19:56:41] elmorte : and 2000 elmo coins
[2016-02-27 19:57:07] elmorte : pay me back when you're rich
[2016-02-27 19:57:13] jung1 : you will recive your PRFT asap when our develope team end coding
[2016-02-27 19:57:41] elmorte : Cheers bud
[2016-02-27 19:58:06] jung1 : be patiend and spread the word
[2016-02-27 19:58:12] jung1 : patient
[2016-02-27 19:58:33] BTCDJS : you want me to get hurt?
[2016-02-27 19:58:46] elmorte : Just took a screenshot for instagram
[2016-02-27 19:58:49] jung1 : nobody move, nobody get hurt
[2016-02-27 19:58:59] jung1 : *except PRFT price
[2016-02-27 20:01:05] mrp1nk : shitcoins shitcoins everywhere, plz stop
[2016-02-27 20:01:46] elmorte : 1st hater!
[2016-02-27 20:07:41] jung1 : gear success
[2016-02-27 20:07:46] jung1 : great
[2016-02-27 20:24:32] rapidtrades : shitcoins
[2016-02-27 20:26:48] rapidtrades : there was this coin, everything same as bitcoin except it was scrypt mined...called BTC smth...what happened to it
[2016-02-27 20:28:23] habibi : bitcoin plus?
[2016-02-27 20:30:35] rapidtrades : some faggy name like that, prolly not that tho
[2016-02-27 21:25:32] Tulip_stefan : This was the most boring saturday in a really long while. No inspiration to code something at all.
[2016-02-27 21:53:44] jung1 : feel welcome in ETH spaceship
[2016-02-27 21:57:11] Tulip_stefan : At this point i have been invited into the 'ETH spaceship' so many times that i simply refuse to go near it. The spam was already annoying 2 weeks ago. Now it's just absurd.
[2016-02-27 22:00:14] sleger : jump in it wont be so annoying after that. And maybe you can run your algo there too ?
[2016-02-27 22:09:33] Tulip_stefan : I'm not sure how well my algo will do there. I should do some research on that.
[2016-02-27 22:11:58] Tulip_stefan : I don't have much hope that it will, actually.
[2016-02-27 22:12:34] rapidtrades : Tulip_stefan: yeah f eth
[2016-02-27 22:13:40] Tulip_stefan : downloading polo eth data to run some simulations on....
[2016-02-27 22:14:36] rapidtrades : where do u find that data
[2016-02-27 22:15:10] Tulip_stefan : poloniex api
[2016-02-27 22:15:56] Tulip_stefan : i can hand you the data if you want, takes me 10 minutes to create a script to get it.
[2016-02-27 22:16:43] rapidtrades : i wouldn't know what to do with it at this point...unless it can be imported into mt4 somehow
[2016-02-27 22:18:05] Tulip_stefan : i store everything as csv.
[2016-02-27 22:19:31] Rdnkjdi : 1.2 million hit polo yesterday from a genesis buyer
[2016-02-27 22:19:33] Rdnkjdi : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/47v17v/1220000_eth_hit_poloniex_wallet_20_hours_ago/
[2016-02-27 22:22:11] rapidtrades : Tulip_stefan: tnx that would prolly work, I'll contact u if I need some data
[2016-02-27 22:22:38] rapidtrades : not thinking about eth right now, too much other things to test
[2016-02-27 22:23:48] rapidtrades : learning programming is like a catch 22....I need it to speed up my testing but if I start learning now it will slow down my current testing that needs to be done
[2016-02-27 22:32:45] Tulip_stefan : sleger, how much code is your bot platform?