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[2016-02-25 00:03:27] BTCVIX : true but that still doesn't justify not being transparent
[2016-02-25 00:04:16] tscha : "hey could be skimming or dishonest, we don't know but I can see what supposedly goes into the fund" .. in this case you are talking about the user's trust right?
[2016-02-25 00:04:47] BTCVIX : tscha: also I admit being OKC centric -- I don't deny not being biased -- but I do have issue when the sacrosanct bitmex isn't at par with OKC in transparency -- even that is ONLY perceived
[2016-02-25 00:04:59] zanza : yeah, it seems like they are making pretty good fees now off normal orders since the volume has picked up here in the past 5 months to not need to skim
[2016-02-25 00:05:33] zanza : My guess, is that in past times when they were low volume the liquidation fund was kind of helping cover the bills
[2016-02-25 00:05:39] BTCVIX : tscha: well the customers are the users -- so yes do the users trust what the platform is reporting etc
[2016-02-25 00:06:06] tscha : The only way to prove the true fund is posting liquidation fills. Okc doesnt do it, bitmex doesnt do it. You can argue that seeing a number (which could be fake) subjectively gives a higher trust, which makes sense
[2016-02-25 00:06:08] zanza : have you traded the A50 at all yet @btcvix ?
[2016-02-25 00:06:31] zanza : true tscha
[2016-02-25 00:06:47] tscha : but if you hear around opinions of bitmex users, they usually have a very high trust into the platform
[2016-02-25 00:06:56] BTCVIX : tscha: it does get perceived by more trust -- some people in bitcoin think to binary computer dev style
[2016-02-25 00:07:01] BTCVIX : the world is about perceptions
[2016-02-25 00:07:12] BTCVIX : zanza: I posted an order that never got filled
[2016-02-25 00:07:15] BTCVIX : then just said fuck it
[2016-02-25 00:07:36] zanza : btcvix, you also have to consider how rare clawback is here
[2016-02-25 00:07:40] BTCVIX : tscha: but bitmex still has a very small user base
[2016-02-25 00:07:41] zanza : that builds trust here
[2016-02-25 00:08:02] zanza : small user base, but our volume is pretty good.
[2016-02-25 00:08:13] zanza : usually 24H contract volume is like 9k
[2016-02-25 00:08:20] zanza : (anyone confirm that?)
[2016-02-25 00:08:38] BTCVIX : zanza: well the point is that you are arguing a minority viewpoint evitably
[2016-02-25 00:08:40] tscha : BTCVIX: yes, but it grows rapidly. think wally mentioned like x10 in last 6 months
[2016-02-25 00:09:34] BTCVIX : bitmex Sam told me almost 9 months ago that the feedback from users about UI UX was essatic -- they loved it -- I was like well yeah that is because you asked the people ON your platform -- no one using OKC liked bitmex UI
[2016-02-25 00:09:38] BTCVIX : now look at bitmex UI
[2016-02-25 00:09:44] BTCVIX : suddenly much better and intuitive
[2016-02-25 00:10:03] zanza : look at OKC LTC contract, from what I hear is very convoluted
[2016-02-25 00:10:16] zanza : you have to literally buy LTC to even use it, and the interface is very bad
[2016-02-25 00:10:19] BTCVIX : I am PR/Marketing/ and Community guy -- this is far from black and white issues it comes down to perceptions -- that is all I am hammering on
[2016-02-25 00:10:33] zanza : yeah I know you are trying to help this site improve
[2016-02-25 00:10:47] zanza : noble intentions
[2016-02-25 00:12:13] tscha : Considering okc does pretty shady stuff considering vollume generation, I trust Bitmex 10x more than them. But again, the only way to solve this issue is posting each liquidation fill. Hopefully they will implement it soon, would be sweet.
[2016-02-25 00:12:29] zanza : personally I think this site has the best trading UI from everything I have seen
[2016-02-25 00:12:31] tscha : And I think trust is just very subjective, you might be more of an okc guy whic his fine
[2016-02-25 00:13:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1000 @ 425.95
[2016-02-25 00:13:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 20 @ 426.04
[2016-02-25 00:13:03] zanza : OKC takes fiat deposits, so they have a government oversight
[2016-02-25 00:13:24] BTCVIX : tscha: the great thing about high leverage is you don't have to trust very much
[2016-02-25 00:13:32] BTCVIX : I have written about that many times
[2016-02-25 00:13:46] zanza : yes, but liquidation hits a lot harder with high leverage :)
[2016-02-25 00:13:47] BTCVIX : the mtgox problem has largely been solved through risk mitigation
[2016-02-25 00:13:51] tscha : true
[2016-02-25 00:13:51] BTCVIX : gox had no leverage
[2016-02-25 00:14:11] BTCVIX : OKC 20x mex 100x -- I barely need to expose much for collateral anymore on these bucket shops
[2016-02-25 00:15:06] tscha : BTCVIX: btw, past DPE rates are here if you are interested: https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-02-25 00:15:35] BTCVIX : yeah I have seen those -- you could also argue that OKC barely has any socialized losses either
[2016-02-25 00:15:44] BTCVIX : even historically their rate is very low
[2016-02-25 00:16:21] tscha : true. however, okc has 20x as you mentioned, much easier to have low socialized losses on that leverage
[2016-02-25 00:16:49] BTCVIX : well BUT mex takes control of your position at 50% of collateral remaining versus OKC at 20%
[2016-02-25 00:18:30] j8 : it's only 50% of collateral if you go 100x
[2016-02-25 00:18:31] tscha : yeah, hard to compare the systems
[2016-02-25 00:19:11] j8 : if you go 20x here then it's 0.5% relative to 5% collateral, so 10%
[2016-02-25 00:19:57] zanza : so its actually half of OKC based on amount of leverage?
[2016-02-25 00:20:01] zanza : thats cool
[2016-02-25 00:20:15] BTCVIX : OKC does 10% at 10x
[2016-02-25 00:20:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1453 @ 427.02
[2016-02-25 00:20:33] j8 : and here 10x would be 5%
[2016-02-25 00:20:44] zanza : btw did whaleclub teamspeak close down? I tried logging in lately and it was pretty dead
[2016-02-25 00:20:54] zanza : back in August it was pretty popular
[2016-02-25 00:21:01] BTCVIX : there have also been 35% and 25% dpes as well
[2016-02-25 00:21:10] ayy lmao : pamp
[2016-02-25 00:21:11] zanza : yup BTCVIX
[2016-02-25 00:21:16] BTCVIX : we only do setup sundays now
[2016-02-25 00:21:16] zanza : when DPE hits, it hits hard!
[2016-02-25 00:21:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 73 @ 428.17
[2016-02-25 00:21:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 300 @ 426.78
[2016-02-25 00:21:33] REKT : Sell your house, sell your wife, sell your kids, BUY BITCOIN!
[2016-02-25 00:21:41] BTCVIX : and the problem with that is that DPE will probably hit you on your most profitable day
[2016-02-25 00:21:56] zanza : I do wish the trollbox had an option to "mute/ignore" user
[2016-02-25 00:22:03] zanza : that way it could be self moderating
[2016-02-25 00:22:45] habibi : new guy is back
[2016-02-25 00:22:46] habibi : <3
[2016-02-25 00:22:51] zanza : BTCVIX: what do you think of Simplefx?
[2016-02-25 00:24:00] BTCVIX : well I a bit biased to answer that
[2016-02-25 00:24:12] zanza : why are you baised?
[2016-02-25 00:24:26] BTCVIX : I am king shill of SFX long before anyone knew of it
[2016-02-25 00:24:31] zanza : rofl
[2016-02-25 00:24:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 3 @ 430.35 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-25 00:24:35] BTCVIX : but I do like it for a number of reasons
[2016-02-25 00:24:52] BTCVIX : mt4 is great -- set entry price with SL and TP all in one
[2016-02-25 00:25:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 3 @ 428.59 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-25 00:25:05] BTCVIX : also you can trade everything you want using btc when btc isn't moving
[2016-02-25 00:25:11] habibi : look at 24h then at daily roll
[2016-02-25 00:25:13] habibi : then 7d
[2016-02-25 00:25:23] zanza : I like the concept, but the implementation is awful, Their "trade point trade value" this is super convoluted
[2016-02-25 00:25:25] habibi : nvm anymore
[2016-02-25 00:25:41] BTCVIX : zanza: yeah have you used it with mt4 yet ?
[2016-02-25 00:25:47] BTCVIX : desktop and mobile
[2016-02-25 00:25:51] zanza : no haven't
[2016-02-25 00:25:54] BTCVIX : would suggest going that route
[2016-02-25 00:25:58] zanza : ahh ok
[2016-02-25 00:26:07] BTCVIX : you will first hate mt4 -- it looks like something from ms-dos
[2016-02-25 00:26:11] BTCVIX : but it will grow on you
[2016-02-25 00:26:15] BTCVIX : all the FX guys use it
[2016-02-25 00:26:20] zanza : but, does MT4 calculate their "point" system?
[2016-02-25 00:26:50] zanza : their simplefx webui is like kindergarden compraed to here
[2016-02-25 00:27:07] zanza : ill have to try MT4
[2016-02-25 00:28:16] zanza : actually, at least they fixed the "calculator" that wasn't working forever. Just tried it now
[2016-02-25 00:28:18] BTCVIX : well mt4 is just straight pips
[2016-02-25 00:28:46] zanza : I think 1broker has slightly better overnight rates than simplefx though
[2016-02-25 00:28:59] zanza : and does not charge 3x on wednesday
[2016-02-25 00:29:14] BTCVIX : zanza: well 200x vs 500x and you might be right
[2016-02-25 00:29:21] zanza : ahh
[2016-02-25 00:29:26] BTCVIX : I don't think SFX charges 3x on weds
[2016-02-25 00:29:32] BTCVIX : they do it daily
[2016-02-25 00:29:37] BTCVIX : but not sure tbh
[2016-02-25 00:29:48] BTCVIX : 1broker messed up and not going with mt4
[2016-02-25 00:29:54] BTCVIX : their growth is limited because of that
[2016-02-25 00:30:21] zanza : My favorite part of BitMEX is the long dated futures, I think it their best feature but not many people realize this
[2016-02-25 00:30:40] zanza : the 3 and 6 month
[2016-02-25 00:30:59] BTCVIX : yeah I my average hold time in FX is 10-15 minutes
[2016-02-25 00:31:00] BTCVIX : lol
[2016-02-25 00:37:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 120 @ 428.72
[2016-02-25 00:49:32] TraderStefan : when creating an order though the api, how do I set it to use cross margin?
[2016-02-25 00:50:18] habibi : u said u were playing 3.3x here...
[2016-02-25 00:50:21] habibi : with bot
[2016-02-25 00:50:56] j8 : TraderStefan: it's a position call https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Position/Position_isolateMargin
[2016-02-25 00:51:20] TraderStefan : ty j8
[2016-02-25 00:52:08] j8 : np
[2016-02-25 00:53:17] TraderStefan : is this something that must be set every time I create a new order, or it will default to my last setting
[2016-02-25 00:53:19] TraderStefan : ?
[2016-02-25 00:53:30] j8 : it stays where you put it, per contract
[2016-02-25 00:53:44] TraderStefan : excellent, thanks
[2016-02-25 00:53:58] j8 : it's possible that when a new contract launches it'll default to isolated
[2016-02-25 00:54:20] zanza : low average hold times mean you get effected by the spread much greater
[2016-02-25 00:54:51] TraderStefan : j8, yeah I'll have to watch out for that
[2016-02-25 00:57:22] j8 : speaking of which, i wonder when september will launch
[2016-02-25 00:57:53] zanza : when Mar expires
[2016-02-25 00:58:00] j8 : guess so.
[2016-02-25 00:58:02] zanza : Jun will replace mar
[2016-02-25 01:01:55] zanza : isn't using cross margin 100x (or max default)
[2016-02-25 01:02:49] zanza : but under the slider it says cross is 0 leverage
[2016-02-25 01:03:17] j8 : sort of, but effectively not
[2016-02-25 01:07:07] j8 : it only puts the minimum of 1% margin on the position, but it adds more as it needs it
[2016-02-25 01:33:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 426.78 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-25 01:42:05] gustavo7 : stamp dumping
[2016-02-25 01:42:22] gustavo7 : just a little
[2016-02-25 01:52:58] zanza : j8: like a vampire!
[2016-02-25 01:54:23] j8 : ok...
[2016-02-25 03:24:47] chromaticcr : get rekt A50
[2016-02-25 03:40:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 423.87 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-25 03:41:40] veritasBS : mega rekt coming soon.
[2016-02-25 04:01:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1030 @ 422.54
[2016-02-25 04:01:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3329 @ 421.82
[2016-02-25 04:01:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 421.88
[2016-02-25 04:02:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 138838 @ 421.29 **REKTosaurus** :cry: :gun: :skull:
[2016-02-25 04:02:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 1000 @ 421.89
[2016-02-25 04:02:05] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-02-25 04:02:38] ayy lmao : rekt
[2016-02-25 04:03:03] ayy lmao : 10 btc rekt
[2016-02-25 04:17:43] chromaticcr : lol
[2016-02-25 04:22:30] jung1 : Ouch
[2016-02-25 04:24:19] j8 : isn't trading fun
[2016-02-25 04:27:24] jung1 : Bitcoin: losing money never was so fun
[2016-02-25 04:54:11] zeropoint : really bitmex... a guy w a gun to the head , very unprofessional
[2016-02-25 04:58:14] micmix : zeropoint: REKT is not an official BitMEX bot. do you have any suggestions for the big REKT emoji? the list is here: http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/
[2016-02-25 04:59:47] zeropoint : thx for the clarification micmix
[2016-02-25 05:03:33] micmix : if you guys consider "gun to the head" poor taste I can change it, it's not a problem
[2016-02-25 05:04:07] zeropoint : can rektbot post link to gamblersanonymous ;)
[2016-02-25 05:04:09] j8 : heh, maybe a bit dark
[2016-02-25 05:05:03] micmix : ok, I'll try for something funny
[2016-02-25 05:11:07] zeropoint : Micmix: sorry to be the sensitive sally and thx for considering an emoji thats a bit lighter
[2016-02-25 05:11:44] micmix : zeropoint: no problem, I agree that it's a bit over the top
[2016-02-25 05:12:35] micmix : :slot_machine:
[2016-02-25 05:18:56] micmix : ok, changed it
[2016-02-25 05:33:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 285 @ 421.27
[2016-02-25 05:56:47] chromaticcr : :shipit:
[2016-02-25 06:20:38] ctpact : where I can find "crossover" check from "old" interface??
[2016-02-25 06:21:32] jung1 : you cant
[2016-02-25 06:22:01] ctpact : what? why?
[2016-02-25 06:25:11] jung1 : sam said that its not possible to bring back old interface
[2016-02-25 06:25:22] jung1 : so you have to get use to it
[2016-02-25 06:30:52] AudibleScience : morning gents
[2016-02-25 06:31:15] AudibleScience : chromaticcr: are you a web guy?
[2016-02-25 06:33:38] jung1 : morning
[2016-02-25 06:34:24] ctpact : hmm interesting...
[2016-02-25 06:34:37] AudibleScience : <img class="emoji" src="/img/emoji/shipit.png">
[2016-02-25 06:36:10] AudibleScience : src="/img/emoji/shipit.png"
[2016-02-25 06:36:14] AudibleScience : lol
[2016-02-25 06:36:30] jung1 : hackerman
[2016-02-25 06:36:35] AudibleScience : chromaticcr: haha how did you do that?
[2016-02-25 06:37:33] AudibleScience : anyone in eth atm?
[2016-02-25 06:37:40] chromaticcr : http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ just paste those emoji text tag \:shipit\:
[2016-02-25 06:38:10] chromaticcr : ChinaA50 = :toilet:
[2016-02-25 06:38:49] jung1 : Igo eth or go home
[2016-02-25 06:40:37] AudibleScience : :musical_note:
[2016-02-25 06:43:40] jung1 : gifs work here too?
[2016-02-25 06:46:06] AudibleScience : :+1:
[2016-02-25 07:29:53] jung1 : http://poll.spectrocoin.com free virtual debit cards from spectrocoin with multiple currencies
[2016-02-25 07:29:58] jung1 : #protip
[2016-02-25 07:35:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1100 @ 424.28
[2016-02-25 08:26:17] jung1 : so whats your bets about btc guys?
[2016-02-25 08:26:22] jung1 : 30 or 20?
[2016-02-25 08:37:12] tscha : yees my transaction finally was confirmed... after 42 hours
[2016-02-25 08:39:09] jung1 : add more fee
[2016-02-25 08:39:12] jung1 : next time'
[2016-02-25 08:46:30] tscha : jung1: I had 0.0003 BTC
[2016-02-25 08:46:51] jung1 : which wallet?
[2016-02-25 08:47:23] tscha : bitmex... for some reason the transaction was over 8kb
[2016-02-25 08:48:43] tscha : the last withdrawal I did was 600 bytes, now 8kb+
[2016-02-25 08:49:12] jung1 : strange
[2016-02-25 08:50:57] tscha : Looked it up later, the suggested fee (fast confirmation) for a transaction with this size is 0.0036 btc, which is ~7x the amount suggested in the withdrawal box
[2016-02-25 08:55:54] tscha : I think transaction size varying by so much has something to do with the P2SH multisig addresses bitmex uses, but dont know any details... maybe wally/sam can explain later
[2016-02-25 09:43:46] micmix : tscha: probably big withdrawal coming from 10+ multisig addresses
[2016-02-25 09:46:09] tscha : micmix: You are right. It was 15 addresses. But withdrawal wasnt that big. I had bigger withdrawals before with only 1-2 addresses signed.
[2016-02-25 09:46:38] tscha : forget the word "signed" here, doesnt make sense
[2016-02-25 09:48:18] tscha : Ah okay, now I get it. Still weird that sometimes it needs 15+ addresses for a small-medium transaction.
[2016-02-25 09:49:27] micmix : not sure what wallet they are using, most likely wallet software doesn't optimize transaction size. if you need like 10 coins it doesn't make sense to take from 15 addresses that only have small amounts
[2016-02-25 09:53:05] BitMEX_Wally : In general we try and process a withdrawal from the user's deposit address. This is why sometimes we use a large number of utxo and the transaction is big
[2016-02-25 09:53:41] BitMEX_Wally : So it wasn't 15 addresses but 15 unspent deposits to the darn address
[2016-02-25 09:54:43] BitMEX_Wally : *same address
[2016-02-25 09:55:32] micmix : yeah, if someone makes lots of small deposits you'll get huge transaction when spending all those outputs
[2016-02-25 09:55:33] tscha : Unless you are profitable and your withdrawals cant be funded by your deposits, then logically you have to get the funds from other addresses
[2016-02-25 09:59:40] tscha : Maybe you can look at the transaction wally and check if this is intented, because then I might need to put a fee of 0.002 or more next time. i'll send you transaction ID per mail, gotta go brb.
[2016-02-25 11:27:39] rapidtrades : good morning fellas
[2016-02-25 11:50:55] elmorte : What's good about it?
[2016-02-25 12:00:35] mrp1nk : morning, any thoughts when the eth pump is over?
[2016-02-25 12:01:17] rapidtrades : after lunch
[2016-02-25 12:44:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 2000 @ 422.28
[2016-02-25 12:52:42] rapidtrades : rly...down after all that fomo
[2016-02-25 13:10:43] habibi : highest volume finex, almost lowest influence on index
[2016-02-25 13:10:53] habibi : lovely tradeblock
[2016-02-25 13:28:55] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 300 @ 422.80
[2016-02-25 13:41:08] arbitrage001 : buy after rally and sell after dump
[2016-02-25 13:41:23] arbitrage001 : seem to work well recently
[2016-02-25 13:41:43] arbitrage001 : opps
[2016-02-25 13:41:52] arbitrage001 : i mean sell after rally and buy after dump
[2016-02-25 13:56:22] j8 : last time i withdrew i tried to withdraw exactly the amount of my last deposit, so it would use 1 input... but i forgot about the fee and it used a second one just for the fee :(
[2016-02-25 14:43:48] davidjames : anyone want insiderinfo on price changes email me at gbides@hotmail.com
[2016-02-25 14:44:00] sleger : yeah because it worked so well yesterday ?
[2016-02-25 14:46:53] davidjames : our team have a hedge fund join it and email me at gbides@hotmail.com are hedge fund consists of only cryptocurrency assets
[2016-02-25 14:48:03] rapidtrades : if u had a hedge fund regulated in any reputable jurisdiction, you'd know that this type is soliciting is illegal
[2016-02-25 14:48:15] mrp1nk : davidjames: first deliver some appetizer info or it never happened#
[2016-02-25 14:48:57] sleger : he did yesterday, he said there was a pump and dump of 40 points planned, but it did not happen
[2016-02-25 14:49:29] davidjames : sleger: no i said their was a price pump and dump that heppend 2 days ago check the prices it did
[2016-02-25 14:49:54] davidjames : and soliciting its called promoting
[2016-02-25 14:50:05] davidjames : and were not a normal hedge fund
[2016-02-25 14:50:05] rapidtrades : we can't make money on a pump/dump two days ago chump
[2016-02-25 14:50:06] sleger : so now you're saying you said it after it happened ?
[2016-02-25 14:50:18] sleger : well thanks, we all have eyes and stupid charts
[2016-02-25 14:50:20] gouda : Lol
[2016-02-25 14:50:39] rapidtrades : ''davidjames: and were not a normal hedge fund ''
[2016-02-25 14:50:44] rapidtrades : that tells u all u need to know
[2016-02-25 14:50:51] davidjames : i told you to email me ill give yopu the next pump and dump time
[2016-02-25 14:51:25] rapidtrades : let's put it this way, we think that the energy it would take us to do that is not worth it
[2016-02-25 14:52:02] davidjames : well then good luck losing money
[2016-02-25 14:52:04] sleger : davidjames: "2016-02-24T15:05:14.225Z","user":"davidjames","message":"based on current comments from major cyptocurrency exechanges ive been talking through back channels 2 days ago their was a 40$ price pump and dump their going to be another one very soon"
[2016-02-25 14:52:45] sleger : davidjames: "2016-02-24T15:07:34.167Z","user":"davidjames","message":"price of bitcoin will be 440.00 very soon"
[2016-02-25 14:53:08] davidjames : it will be soon email me and ill tell you when soon does not mean right away
[2016-02-25 14:53:14] rapidtrades : davidjames: if there's a pump, i wont be losing money, chump
[2016-02-25 14:53:38] davidjames : yes you will because youll be on the ass end of it
[2016-02-25 14:53:41] sleger : if its a pump and dump the price will end up at the same price we wont be losing money
[2016-02-25 14:53:54] rapidtrades : yeah what he said
[2016-02-25 14:54:01] sleger : davidjames: even habibi sounds smarter than you !
[2016-02-25 14:54:14] rapidtrades : davidjames: your mom is always on the ass end of it
[2016-02-25 14:55:38] davidjames : when the price goes up to 4.40 and you wont be on it and you miss your chance ill be saying go fuck yourself
[2016-02-25 14:56:05] sleger : im already long
[2016-02-25 14:56:50] davidjames : dont go long
[2016-02-25 14:57:08] sleger : but its going to 440 so why not ?
[2016-02-25 14:58:03] davidjames : dont do long trust me or dont i dont care ill be in when it happens
[2016-02-25 14:59:32] mrp1nk : davidjames: Is this your site http://btctrading.club/ ?
[2016-02-25 14:59:53] davidjames : no
[2016-02-25 15:01:04] rapidtrades : price is going to 440 but don't go long, trust me
[2016-02-25 15:01:19] habibi : davidjames: chopping is what u calling inside info even after the fact?
[2016-02-25 15:01:45] habibi : sleger: not even funny
[2016-02-25 15:02:47] altcoinsdotin : Blood in the streed DavidJames REKT 10000000000 Contracts
[2016-02-25 15:03:04] altcoinsdotin : Chop Suey DavidJames REKT 100000000000000000000 Contracts
[2016-02-25 15:03:05] davidjames : Listen, we're going to pump it to 440 and then sell. Get with the program or get left behind.
[2016-02-25 15:03:27] altcoinsdotin : Blood in the street David James BUTTHURT REKT 10000000000 COntract liquidation
[2016-02-25 15:03:41] arbitrage001 : still shortin 25k june contracct
[2016-02-25 15:03:41] davidjames : email me @altcoinsdotin
[2016-02-25 15:03:45] altcoinsdotin : Chop Suey REKT DAVID JAMES REKT on INSIDER INFO 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[2016-02-25 15:03:50] altcoinsdotin : contract
[2016-02-25 15:04:16] altcoinsdotin : blood in the streets david james REKT shorting ETH 1000000 contracts
[2016-02-25 15:04:35] altcoinsdotin : Anyone in DavidJames group REKT 10000000000000000000000 Contracts
[2016-02-25 15:04:41] habibi : davidjames: ok exact hour
[2016-02-25 15:04:42] habibi : of pump
[2016-02-25 15:04:50] habibi : or u're done here
[2016-02-25 15:05:00] davidjames : is that a threat
[2016-02-25 15:05:06] davidjames : email me and ill make you cash
[2016-02-25 15:05:14] habibi : just a natural repercussion
[2016-02-25 15:06:03] altcoinsdotin : David James Group REKT 1000000 Chop Suey Blood Sauce
[2016-02-25 15:06:15] davidjames : hey bro just email me and ill tell you anything you want to know secrets stay secret for a reason im not gona post my secret
[2016-02-25 15:06:22] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:23] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:24] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:26] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:27] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:29] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:30] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:32] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:33] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:34] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:36] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:37] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:39] altcoinsdotin : REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:44] altcoinsdotin : david james REKT
[2016-02-25 15:06:44] sleger : altcoinsdotin: ban ?
[2016-02-25 15:07:02] altcoinsdotin : Should I offer my phone number for a insider group to get banned
[2016-02-25 15:07:13] sleger : altcoinsdotin: stop spamming
[2016-02-25 15:07:21] altcoinsdotin : .ok ,
[2016-02-25 15:07:26] rapidtrades : lol grandpa got angry
[2016-02-25 15:07:27] altcoinsdotin : david james is full of BS
[2016-02-25 15:07:54] altcoinsdotin : david james is rekt
[2016-02-25 15:07:55] sleger : well he is a "hedge fund" that promotes to retail and participates in pump and dump scheme.
[2016-02-25 15:08:05] sleger : We shall visit him with bread and water in jail soon
[2016-02-25 15:08:14] altcoinsdotin : blood in the streets david james rekt 1 contract the only one he had
[2016-02-25 15:09:24] rapidtrades : and after a movie shall be made about his scam 'David James, the Tool of Wall Street' @sleger
[2016-02-25 15:09:39] altcoinsdotin : total legit hedge fund
[2016-02-25 15:09:48] altcoinsdotin : many make mega profitswith his fund
[2016-02-25 15:09:51] altcoinsdotin : totaly legit group
[2016-02-25 15:09:59] altcoinsdotin : give him a call today
[2016-02-25 15:10:01] altcoinsdotin : he is in NYC
[2016-02-25 15:10:07] altcoinsdotin : got the connections yo
[2016-02-25 15:10:16] altcoinsdotin : much pump and dump 40 point move
[2016-02-25 15:11:39] davidjames : ok
[2016-02-25 15:12:19] altcoinsdotin : call 1-800-david-james to make mega profits
[2016-02-25 15:13:09] davidjames : :)
[2016-02-25 15:16:29] rapidtrades : altcoinsdotin: that's prolly a real phone number lol
[2016-02-25 15:16:52] rapidtrades : not his but smone prolly has it claimed
[2016-02-25 15:17:54] davidjames : ya for real
[2016-02-25 15:18:30] mrp1nk : davidjames: c'mon, try harder please. not even virtually convincing.
[2016-02-25 15:18:48] davidjames : not trying to convince
[2016-02-25 15:19:01] mrp1nk : i would rather join http://btctrading.club/
[2016-02-25 15:19:15] davidjames : ive got a group all ready not my job to convince but to trade
[2016-02-25 15:19:52] rapidtrades : u can't pump&dump bitcoin...how f stupid are u
[2016-02-25 15:20:13] davidjames : i never said bitcoin
[2016-02-25 15:20:27] davidjames : its a cryptocurrency
[2016-02-25 15:20:41] sleger : oh another one ? that will also go to 440 ?
[2016-02-25 15:20:41] rapidtrades : litecoin?
[2016-02-25 15:20:50] rapidtrades : tbf he said 4.40
[2016-02-25 15:20:51] sleger : you're just ridiculous
[2016-02-25 15:20:56] rapidtrades : not 440
[2016-02-25 15:20:59] sleger : yesterday he said 440
[2016-02-25 15:21:07] rapidtrades : yeah he's an idiot
[2016-02-25 15:21:13] davidjames : 4.40
[2016-02-25 15:21:17] sleger : "2016-02-24T15:07:34.167Z","user":"davidjames","message":"price of bitcoin will be 440.00 very soon"
[2016-02-25 15:21:32] sleger : stop contradicting yourself
[2016-02-25 15:21:39] davidjames : typo
[2016-02-25 15:21:46] sleger : too bad for you there's history on the chat ;)
[2016-02-25 15:21:52] rapidtrades : sleger: it's a new day now, he's a changed man
[2016-02-25 15:22:16] sleger : even amirass realized he was done when i called him out on his lie
[2016-02-25 15:22:37] davidjames : losten you stupid fucking retards when the market moves you i said to be in with us i tried to be nice about it now im gona make sure you loose
[2016-02-25 15:22:50] rapidtrades : haha
[2016-02-25 15:23:08] sleger : davidjames: you're too obvious
[2016-02-25 15:23:37] rapidtrades : but u said ur pumping an altcoin...im only in BTC now, how can u make me lose, homie @davidjames
[2016-02-25 15:23:50] sleger : not smart enough for what you're trying to do, you couldnt even convince anyone on this trollbox, and god knows how many stupid people are here
[2016-02-25 15:24:17] rapidtrades : yeah like that random walk guy
[2016-02-25 15:24:34] rapidtrades : you should page Tulip_Stefan
[2016-02-25 15:24:38] mrp1nk : lol
[2016-02-25 15:24:50] sleger : you dont like him but he's not that bad
[2016-02-25 15:25:22] rapidtrades : well he comes into a trading chat room and constantly butts into convos with this random this random that
[2016-02-25 15:25:29] mrp1nk : i agree. Tulip_Stefan sounds like he know what he's talking about. He's legit
[2016-02-25 15:25:38] rapidtrades : he reserved all the flak i've giving him
[2016-02-25 15:25:53] rapidtrades : he's learned all the wrong things imo
[2016-02-25 15:26:04] mrp1nk : davidjames: you should learn how to shill, kiddo
[2016-02-25 15:28:08] cryptostephen : I have played at Bitmex 3 times in the last 2 weeks (100x)
[2016-02-25 15:28:19] cryptostephen : first 2 trades I got +163% and +200%
[2016-02-25 15:28:24] cryptostephen : 3rd trade i got liquidated lol
[2016-02-25 15:28:45] sleger : deposit more and "play" again
[2016-02-25 15:29:00] rapidtrades : cryptostephen: what's ur trading exp
[2016-02-25 15:33:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 15 @ 0.01516
[2016-02-25 15:52:52] rapidtrades : eth topping?
[2016-02-25 15:53:37] mrp1nk : i was thinking the same right now
[2016-02-25 15:53:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 360 @ 0.01503
[2016-02-25 15:56:06] rapidtrades : well hopefully this will bid up BTC
[2016-02-25 15:56:17] rapidtrades : every fool running back to btc
[2016-02-25 15:57:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 498 @ 0.01456
[2016-02-25 15:57:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 8 @ 0.01442
[2016-02-25 15:58:07] BTCDJS : Yeah I knew that guy was full of it.
[2016-02-25 15:58:41] BTCDJS : And he's not even clever about it
[2016-02-25 16:03:47] cryptostephen : rapidtrades: im cointrader11 on twitter. been trading 3 years with bitcoin, altcoins, stocks, and forex
[2016-02-25 16:04:57] rapidtrades : cryptostephen: then why did u let urself be liquidated
[2016-02-25 16:06:14] odieoh : *lose
[2016-02-25 16:07:15] rapidtrades : no losing is fine, liquidation is a problem
[2016-02-25 16:09:02] sleger : reducing my lonh
[2016-02-25 16:09:04] sleger : *long
[2016-02-25 16:12:02] mrp1nk : sleger: are you afraid of david james? lol
[2016-02-25 16:12:30] sleger : we're going to 4.40 !!! :o
[2016-02-25 16:12:59] mrp1nk : haha
[2016-02-25 16:14:15] sleger : I have my buy back orders at 4.41 but dont tell davidjames
[2016-02-25 16:29:36] zanza : anyone playing A50 today ?
[2016-02-25 16:31:33] habibi : yea open interest is 33 contracts
[2016-02-25 16:31:35] habibi : so someone is
[2016-02-25 16:32:12] zanza : or maybe a bot just broke and accidentally played it
[2016-02-25 16:39:46] tscha : block 400000 mined
[2016-02-25 16:40:46] tscha : v4 unfortunately :(
[2016-02-25 16:44:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.01409
[2016-02-25 16:46:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.01341
[2016-02-25 16:46:35] habibi : that dump on eth <3
[2016-02-25 16:47:22] mrp1nk : delicious
[2016-02-25 16:58:16] sleger : buying some eth fut for fun
[2016-02-25 16:58:43] habibi : lool
[2016-02-25 16:58:44] habibi : :D
[2016-02-25 16:58:47] habibi : that dump again
[2016-02-25 16:58:59] habibi : nice timing sleger
[2016-02-25 16:59:29] sleger : bids filled pretty quick indeed
[2016-02-25 16:59:35] habibi : look at chart
[2016-02-25 16:59:39] habibi : https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/ethbtc
[2016-02-25 17:02:50] sleger : ok and ?
[2016-02-25 17:03:13] sleger : charts dont talk to me, tell me what you hear
[2016-02-25 17:03:58] habibi : they'r broke previous ressistance lvl, i bet many people will try to go out
[2016-02-25 17:04:25] sleger : ok so you think it will go down ?
[2016-02-25 17:04:31] habibi : yep
[2016-02-25 17:04:36] habibi : uptrend is gone in my opinion
[2016-02-25 17:04:38] habibi : double top on dailys
[2016-02-25 17:04:43] habibi : typical bubble scheme
[2016-02-25 17:06:04] habibi : so will be really suprised if it will go for new highs soon
[2016-02-25 17:06:35] sleger : I sell at 0.015
[2016-02-25 17:06:48] habibi : u think it will bounce up there?
[2016-02-25 17:08:32] sleger : just a bet for fun
[2016-02-25 17:10:21] sleger : i only bought 1k contracts
[2016-02-25 17:10:53] habibi : had 1600 but decresed at that dip to 600
[2016-02-25 17:16:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.01393
[2016-02-25 17:18:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 47 @ 0.01406
[2016-02-25 17:24:01] jung1 : someone have a lot of fun with eth nowdays
[2016-02-25 17:25:36] sleger : it's not like anyone is going to do anything serious with it anyways
[2016-02-25 17:26:16] habibi : maybe someone will do, with own chain
[2016-02-25 17:29:19] davidjames : sleger: then join me
[2016-02-25 17:29:33] davidjames : im just trying to help out
[2016-02-25 17:29:34] habibi : what does it have to do with u?
[2016-02-25 17:29:44] habibi : why u need so much to help people?
[2016-02-25 17:29:57] davidjames : cause i can make a profit
[2016-02-25 17:30:04] habibi : ur profit is ur ones
[2016-02-25 17:30:07] habibi : good for u! :)
[2016-02-25 17:31:29] elmorte : How many ppl you got to sign up dude?
[2016-02-25 17:39:04] davidjames : its not really signing up its really about ill have them call me and if they sound good and everything checks out if they can bring something valuable to the table then their in
[2016-02-25 17:39:14] davidjames : and then i bring them in on my fund
[2016-02-25 17:40:29] davidjames : ?
[2016-02-25 17:42:12] davidjames : if you got a skype lets chat my name on skype is davidjames8999
[2016-02-25 17:42:23] sleger : they let you have skype in jail ?
[2016-02-25 17:42:33] davidjames : why are you being rude
[2016-02-25 17:42:41] sleger : pump and dump scheme in nyc... enjoy your last breath of free air
[2016-02-25 17:42:52] davidjames : sleger: ? im not to you
[2016-02-25 17:43:05] davidjames : its all legal what we do
[2016-02-25 17:43:29] sleger : you said "pump and dump", your own words. You think that's legal ?
[2016-02-25 17:43:30] tscha : davidjames: you have a homepage?
[2016-02-25 17:43:43] tscha : website*
[2016-02-25 17:43:43] davidjames : no its a private hedgefund
[2016-02-25 17:43:54] davidjames : once we talk ill send you to our page
[2016-02-25 17:44:15] sleger : davidjames: you said "pump and dump", your own words. You think that's legal ?
[2016-02-25 17:44:24] tscha : can we go to IRC and you send me the website in private chat?
[2016-02-25 17:44:31] davidjames : its a legal form
[2016-02-25 17:44:33] davidjames : yes
[2016-02-25 17:44:57] davidjames : if your not interested then fuck off ?
[2016-02-25 17:45:04] davidjames : fuck off
[2016-02-25 17:45:15] elmorte : Would you return the favour?
[2016-02-25 17:45:21] sleger : yeah we dont like rude people around here
[2016-02-25 17:45:22] habibi : davidjames: noone is interested even Wealthy Muslim
[2016-02-25 17:45:30] sleger : only gentle caresses
[2016-02-25 17:45:33] tscha : @davidjames come to irc so we can talk
[2016-02-25 17:45:39] davidjames : yes i would
[2016-02-25 17:45:59] tscha : but?
[2016-02-25 17:46:34] davidjames : ? ? what
[2016-02-25 17:46:42] sleger : hold on, he is googling "IRC"
[2016-02-25 17:46:56] elmorte : relay chat...is that p2p?
[2016-02-25 17:47:04] davidjames : not googling
[2016-02-25 17:47:09] davidjames : dumb
[2016-02-25 17:47:18] sleger : baiduing ?
[2016-02-25 17:47:27] tscha : join the irc channel so we can have a private chat
[2016-02-25 17:48:09] sleger : tscha: be careful any link he sends you that you click
[2016-02-25 17:48:25] elmorte : Don't do it DJ...he's luring you into a trap
[2016-02-25 17:48:46] elmorte : I heard about IRC...
[2016-02-25 17:49:17] tscha : I want to know more about his hedge fund, seems like an interesting investment opportunity
[2016-02-25 17:49:30] davidjames : You can skype me or shoot me an email
[2016-02-25 17:49:35] elmorte : Yeah I know, and you'll tell us all about later as agreed, right?
[2016-02-25 17:49:40] tscha : come irc and give me your website
[2016-02-25 17:49:46] elmorte : www.nyc.gov/doc
[2016-02-25 17:50:06] sleger : www.justice.gov
[2016-02-25 17:50:19] Tulip_stefan : rapidtrades 2 hours ago: i generally don't listen to people who have a writing style similar to linus'. I listen to arguments. Which have been strangely absent from your side. If i learned the wrong things, that's possible. I learned everything on my own, and i'm bound to draw a wrong conclusion here and there. I call that learning. It works better when you point out my mistakes rather than just telling me i'm wrong without reasoning.
[2016-02-25 17:50:23] Tulip_stefan : Just pointing that out. I'm not bothered or anything, your writing style just makes it really hard to take you serious.
[2016-02-25 17:51:06] davidjames : Yes
[2016-02-25 17:51:25] sleger : No
[2016-02-25 17:52:58] davidjames : Ok
[2016-02-25 17:55:21] tscha : are you coming irc now so I can invest in your fund?
[2016-02-25 17:55:32] habibi : tscha: i was first
[2016-02-25 17:55:36] habibi : stay away
[2016-02-25 17:58:26] sleger : he doesnt want investor, he just wants to give you free tips away what to buy when or to sell, but for some very mysterious reason he cant just post anything here
[2016-02-25 17:59:02] sleger : First you have to click on the attachment he sends you by email link_to_being_rich.jpg.exe
[2016-02-25 18:01:36] Tulip_stefan : That was my conclusion also....
[2016-02-25 18:02:36] tscha : Free tips from a Wall-street-investor? Sounds good, where can I sign up? @davidjames
[2016-02-25 18:03:08] sleger : you can call him, he posted a arizona cell phone number yday, or his email
[2016-02-25 18:03:41] sleger : or alternatively subscribe his email address to all porn websites
[2016-02-25 18:04:45] Tulip_stefan : I'm pretty sure that is illegal. Not that i care, it's just, don't lower yourself to his level....
[2016-02-25 18:04:53] tscha : He says his name is David Wolfshire from Wolfshire Investments
[2016-02-25 18:05:20] tscha : according to google results for his email
[2016-02-25 18:05:28] tscha : "Wolfshire investments is a bussines that takes control of your stock account and we go on their every day of the week and purchase the stocks that we pick and constantly make you money what we provide that stock brokers don't is we do everything all you do is watch the money flow in and we even send you your 50% at the end of each week."
[2016-02-25 18:05:40] tscha : Sounds good
[2016-02-25 18:06:34] tscha : I also found the website: http://wolfshirewolfshireinvestments.webr.ly/packages
[2016-02-25 18:06:41] Tulip_stefan : That sounds awfully close to the kind of scam i described last week. Even a bot that trades at random makes some good weeks//months.
[2016-02-25 18:06:47] Tulip_stefan : do they share 50% of the losses too?
[2016-02-25 18:07:25] sleger : 50%, thats more than citadel takes !
[2016-02-25 18:07:48] Tulip_stefan : not sure if ponzi or just really bad at marketing...
[2016-02-25 18:07:59] tscha : Tulip_stefan: dont forget that he is a wall street investor, so he can easily beat the market
[2016-02-25 18:08:13] sleger : "{AMOUNT OF DAYS YOU WATE BEFORE YOU GET YOUR %}"
[2016-02-25 18:08:14] Tulip_stefan : yeah that's right.
[2016-02-25 18:08:18] sleger : "WATE" LOL
[2016-02-25 18:08:28] sleger : thats from their website
[2016-02-25 18:08:51] sleger : wall street in broken english...
[2016-02-25 18:11:56] tscha : He also has a twitter account, on which his name is David Clutch and not David Wolfshire... https://twitter.com/davidclutch1
[2016-02-25 18:12:02] tscha : maybe just a typo