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[2016-02-21 19:26:22] Tulip_stefan : ehh. I've hard-coded the current portfolio as 0.1 BTC because i want to get this stuff running by tonight and its supposed to not invest more than 3% of it's portfolio.
[2016-02-21 19:26:44] Tulip_stefan : that makes like 60 contracts.
[2016-02-21 19:27:08] Tulip_stefan : i already see a few bugs...
[2016-02-21 19:27:45] habibi : didnt u say that u go all in :D?
[2016-02-21 19:28:12] Tulip_stefan : i always go all in on spot markets.
[2016-02-21 19:28:23] Tulip_stefan : with leverage 3x is risky enough.
[2016-02-21 19:28:52] Tulip_stefan : with more i'll risk liquidation with extreme price rises such as last november.
[2016-02-21 19:29:36] habibi : so guys lets look up for 60 contracts size orders that gets profit everytime after 10 seconds :D
[2016-02-21 19:30:11] Tulip_stefan : I stopped it already. some bot logic i refactored lately is broken.
[2016-02-21 19:36:55] BTCDJS : could it be?
[2016-02-21 19:39:26] Tulip_stefan : even i make mistakes. Recently i discovered that, one of my more profitable exchanges, i accidentally rounded all orders prices to whole integers :P
[2016-02-21 19:40:06] habibi : see? now u should round to tens of dollars to make even more price :p
[2016-02-21 19:40:13] habibi : profit*
[2016-02-21 19:41:17] BTCDJS : even you make mistakes hey?
[2016-02-21 19:41:54] BTCDJS : and here i thought you were perfect ?
[2016-02-21 19:53:38] rapidtrades : who wants to make me a mm bot? quote me prices...i will give u the parameters, not asking for urs :)
[2016-02-21 19:55:23] BTCDJS : 1000 bitcorns
[2016-02-21 19:58:23] BTCDJS : is it time to get funky yet?
[2016-02-21 19:58:29] justinlooking : rapidtrades: why can't u use the bitmex one?
[2016-02-21 19:59:04] BTCDJS : i feel like its time to get funky
[2016-02-21 20:00:39] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 6754 @ 438.06
[2016-02-21 20:04:01] BTCDJS : here we gooooooooooo
[2016-02-21 20:14:04] rapidtrades : my body is ready
[2016-02-21 20:14:28] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: how high?
[2016-02-21 20:15:04] rapidtrades : ?
[2016-02-21 20:15:12] jung1 : 420
[2016-02-21 20:15:53] BTCDJS : yes looking good now
[2016-02-21 20:16:14] rapidtrades : I didn't get to rollover all my margin to lower fees :( I only needed 1 more hour u f bullz
[2016-02-21 20:18:05] BTCDJS : f this man
[2016-02-21 20:19:39] rapidtrades : it's cool, i still have my trade on, just bit higher fees
[2016-02-21 20:20:36] viptrader : bitfinex pump
[2016-02-21 20:21:50] BTCDJS : this going to break 450?
[2016-02-21 20:21:56] BTCDJS : seems a bit slow
[2016-02-21 20:23:48] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you got a good amount on?
[2016-02-21 20:24:10] rapidtrades : yeah it's the same as this morning+1.3 btc
[2016-02-21 20:24:39] rapidtrades : i'll prolly close that mistake if we trade higher
[2016-02-21 20:24:40] BTCDJS : this don't look to bullish to me
[2016-02-21 20:24:54] BTCDJS : small pump
[2016-02-21 20:25:44] rapidtrades : yeah it could go either way from here, short-term
[2016-02-21 20:26:15] BTCDJS : god I'm so nervous. Does it ever go away? do you get used to it? and just look at the screen like a robot
[2016-02-21 20:26:34] rapidtrades : yeah u get used to it somewhat
[2016-02-21 20:27:19] rapidtrades : i usually get nervous if I make a mistake or don't know waht I'm doing, like this morning
[2016-02-21 20:27:48] rapidtrades : i was more worried about that 1.3 btc then the much larger position i have on
[2016-02-21 20:29:50] BTCDJS : this god damn resistance!
[2016-02-21 20:30:04] jung1 : BTCDJS: you have deal with loss
[2016-02-21 20:30:27] BTCDJS : jung1: I'm excited because I'm up not losing
[2016-02-21 20:30:33] jung1 : Play only that amount that you can affort to loose
[2016-02-21 20:30:52] tscha : BTCDJS: you know that you need to be 18 years to trade here right?
[2016-02-21 20:31:05] BTCDJS : tscha: 32 bitch
[2016-02-21 20:31:17] jung1 : So close it, withraw your profit and start from same amount that you started before
[2016-02-21 20:31:17] rapidtrades : tscha: yeah he's 32 b1tch
[2016-02-21 20:31:27] BTCDJS : ?
[2016-02-21 20:31:42] jung1 : Btw how old are you guys?
[2016-02-21 20:32:07] rapidtrades : so many qs today...do u get nervous, how old are u
[2016-02-21 20:32:18] rapidtrades : I feel like I'm on a date
[2016-02-21 20:32:31] justinlooking : rapidtrades: srsly have u tried hte bitmex bot? it's dead simple to get started...
[2016-02-21 20:32:32] rapidtrades : NO I DON'T WANT KIDS
[2016-02-21 20:33:10] rapidtrades : justinlooking: i need smth more complex, like ability to only quote one side, with some other limits
[2016-02-21 20:33:26] rapidtrades : only buys, only sells etc..
[2016-02-21 20:33:46] justinlooking : hmm iirc you could configure it to do that
[2016-02-21 20:33:46] rapidtrades : it's partially to automate my execution
[2016-02-21 20:33:49] tscha : lol, just change the code then
[2016-02-21 20:33:54] jung1 : justinlooking: Any open source bot?
[2016-02-21 20:33:57] rapidtrades : it's damn hard to manually get on top of thse bots
[2016-02-21 20:34:23] rapidtrades : tscha: change the code? do u think I can code mofo?
[2016-02-21 20:34:27] jung1 : Bots are taking our jobs [*]
[2016-02-21 20:34:31] justinlooking : jung1: am talking about sam's fork of liquidbot from github
[2016-02-21 20:34:41] jung1 : Oh ok
[2016-02-21 20:35:08] rapidtrades : yeah as time goes on I find myself using more and more scripts etc
[2016-02-21 20:35:34] jung1 : Work smart not hard
[2016-02-21 20:35:52] rapidtrades : everyone's moving toward auto or semi-automated trading
[2016-02-21 20:36:08] jung1 : It has some good sides like bot will never trade drunk
[2016-02-21 20:36:31] jung1 : Which could be expensive one
[2016-02-21 20:36:36] justinlooking : lol i was wankered last night. no disasters fortunately
[2016-02-21 20:38:10] rapidtrades : well $441 on finex
[2016-02-21 20:38:23] viptrader : 441 on bfx
[2016-02-21 20:38:35] rapidtrades : this guy's blind
[2016-02-21 20:39:47] rapidtrades : still more ground to cover to nullify that crash
[2016-02-21 20:41:51] jung1 : Once I trade here drunked and fall asleep while I had opened long on 24. When I woka up I was like 230% profit
[2016-02-21 20:42:25] jung1 : Pure skill
[2016-02-21 20:42:35] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-02-21 20:44:12] rapidtrades : if we recover completely, there will be some major fireworks
[2016-02-21 20:45:31] tscha : @Wally/Sam... shouldn't a part of my withheld profit already be unlocked since the first session is already over and DPE was 0?
[2016-02-21 20:45:50] rapidtrades : it's manual i think
[2016-02-21 20:46:32] rapidtrades : prolly too drunk, forgot to release
[2016-02-21 20:47:27] rapidtrades : drunk and f*cking with the UI
[2016-02-21 20:47:35] justinlooking : haha
[2016-02-21 20:52:17] rapidtrades : almost there bby
[2016-02-21 20:53:51] rapidtrades : 140 btc market buy on finex
[2016-02-21 20:54:47] BTCDJS : tscha: sorry for calling you a bitch. I did have a large amount at stake. i think ill only play a large amount when we break through 450. this was a bad time to do that
[2016-02-21 20:54:47] rapidtrades : i think okc is leading this one?
[2016-02-21 20:55:09] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: u closed at a profit?
[2016-02-21 20:55:16] BTCDJS : i wasn't secure in my decision
[2016-02-21 20:55:28] BTCDJS : yes and opened a smaller amount
[2016-02-21 20:55:57] rapidtrades : u could've partially closed it? or did u change ur mind
[2016-02-21 20:57:28] BTCDJS : i wasn't sure what was going to happen in a state of panic. i just wanted to close it. but i think there is more room to go now so i put a smaller amount on again
[2016-02-21 20:58:20] rapidtrades : we were going up? why would u panic
[2016-02-21 21:00:06] BTCDJS : i panicked because i placed a bid higher to get the order accepted straight away. remember i was on a short. but i didn't really go long until i was comfortable it was underway.
[2016-02-21 21:00:39] BTCDJS : when i watch the unrealised PNL go up and then down it affects me
[2016-02-21 21:00:58] rapidtrades : well trade smaller then
[2016-02-21 21:01:21] BTCDJS : sometimes i hold for more profit cos I'm a risk taker but it backfires on me
[2016-02-21 21:01:57] BTCDJS : it goes down.
[2016-02-21 21:02:48] BTCDJS : but I'm starting to think the PNL doesn't show your true profit. it was at .32 but i only got .13
[2016-02-21 21:03:38] rapidtrades : maybe u mixed up unrealised and realised
[2016-02-21 21:04:16] rapidtrades : no wait...that's wrong
[2016-02-21 21:05:29] BTCDJS : yeah i am still getting used to it.
[2016-02-21 21:05:47] rapidtrades : PnL fluctuates based on the mark price...this is usually in between bid/ask
[2016-02-21 21:05:57] rapidtrades : but may differ a lot during strong moves
[2016-02-21 21:06:12] rapidtrades : u shouldn't trade based on ur PnL anyway, that's stupid
[2016-02-21 21:06:34] BTCDJS : just use the calc and put a counter order in?
[2016-02-21 21:06:42] rapidtrades : what
[2016-02-21 21:06:50] rapidtrades : why calc
[2016-02-21 21:07:04] BTCDJS : to know where to put the counter in
[2016-02-21 21:07:15] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2016-02-21 21:07:33] rapidtrades : so u can collect a certain dollar amount?
[2016-02-21 21:07:52] BTCDJS : no..
[2016-02-21 21:07:58] rapidtrades : is that the point of the calculator
[2016-02-21 21:08:48] rapidtrades : why are u using the calc
[2016-02-21 21:09:48] BTCDJS : say i buy at 1000 at 438.35 i work out how much ill get when i exit, then put a counter order in
[2016-02-21 21:10:03] rapidtrades : i thought that's what u meant
[2016-02-21 21:10:39] BTCDJS : how do you know when to exit? you don't do the same?
[2016-02-21 21:10:50] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-02-21 21:12:11] rapidtrades : I buy if I think we're going up sell if I think we're going down
[2016-02-21 21:12:18] rapidtrades : PnL is irrelevant
[2016-02-21 21:12:31] rapidtrades : u can't control ur pnl
[2016-02-21 21:12:55] BTCDJS : ok
[2016-02-21 21:13:26] BTCDJS : what is a quick way to close a position if not the Close market button
[2016-02-21 21:13:29] BTCDJS : counter
[2016-02-21 21:13:45] BTCDJS : but price moves really quickly
[2016-02-21 21:13:45] rapidtrades : close by limit in opposite side
[2016-02-21 21:14:16] BTCDJS : yeah thats what i mean by counter order.
[2016-02-21 21:14:51] BTCDJS : you have to wait for your order to get accepted
[2016-02-21 21:14:58] ayy lmao : no
[2016-02-21 21:15:10] ayy lmao : set your limit order down by 1 -2 dollar
[2016-02-21 21:15:16] rapidtrades : ^
[2016-02-21 21:15:22] ayy lmao : its kinda like a market
[2016-02-21 21:15:25] BTCDJS : yes thats what i do
[2016-02-21 21:15:27] ayy lmao : but you get better fills
[2016-02-21 21:15:34] rapidtrades : the limit sets ur max price basically
[2016-02-21 21:15:35] ayy lmao : than full makrket
[2016-02-21 21:16:09] BTCDJS : so basically. you can't decide how much profit you want. you just get what you get
[2016-02-21 21:16:18] rapidtrades : exactly
[2016-02-21 21:16:31] BTCDJS : ok.
[2016-02-21 21:16:40] rapidtrades : u learn quick
[2016-02-21 21:16:50] BTCDJS : heres me trying to say to myself i want x amount
[2016-02-21 21:16:57] BTCDJS : and aim to get it
[2016-02-21 21:17:11] Tulip_stefan : in strong bear/bull markets, it's usually hard to get the price you want. It's one of the harder problems to solve.
[2016-02-21 21:18:08] BTCDJS : but i figure. you're predicting when its going up. why not anticipate where it will stop?
[2016-02-21 21:18:35] BTCDJS : you know your resistance levels
[2016-02-21 21:18:39] Tulip_stefan : tell me when you figured out a way to do that. I say: impossible.
[2016-02-21 21:18:47] rapidtrades : ^
[2016-02-21 21:19:13] BTCDJS : ok
[2016-02-21 21:19:22] BTCDJS : this is good
[2016-02-21 21:19:54] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: I don't trade take my profits based on the resistance levels...maybe I should :)
[2016-02-21 21:20:22] BTCDJS : i personally think theres something in it
[2016-02-21 21:20:28] rapidtrades : but I find that once u exit a trade, its a lot harder to get back in, psychologically....even if u now have cheaper prices
[2016-02-21 21:21:09] rapidtrades : cos u then have the momentum against u
[2016-02-21 21:21:48] BTCDJS : yeah i buy 1$ higher to execute immediately if i know its going to jump
[2016-02-21 21:22:23] habibi : so called fomo
[2016-02-21 21:22:30] rapidtrades : ok but once this bull market ends, u have to stop doing that :) @BTCDJS
[2016-02-21 21:22:43] BTCDJS : yes i agree completely
[2016-02-21 21:22:56] BTCDJS : I'm here for the bull market
[2016-02-21 21:23:16] BTCDJS : im risking a lot because its the bull market
[2016-02-21 21:23:40] Tulip_stefan : Beware of bears.
[2016-02-21 21:23:47] BTCDJS : but when its not is a different story
[2016-02-21 21:23:47] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-02-21 21:24:27] BTCDJS : do you only use the limit order?
[2016-02-21 21:24:46] rapidtrades : BTCDJS:no but mostly yes
[2016-02-21 21:24:55] BTCDJS : or do you use stop limit
[2016-02-21 21:25:31] rapidtrades : if I have an arb i will smtimes execute one of the legs asap
[2016-02-21 21:26:16] BTCDJS : what is a stop limit?
[2016-02-21 21:26:59] rapidtrades : I think a stop limit places a limit order when we break a certian price
[2016-02-21 21:27:39] rapidtrades : like if u set it to 450, it should place a limit at ur specified price once we hit that level
[2016-02-21 21:27:50] rapidtrades : haven't used it here, smone else can confirm?
[2016-02-21 21:28:45] BTCDJS : stop price is what gets triggered. whats the limit price?
[2016-02-21 21:28:53] habibi : if price breaks certain lvl here, sell/buy x ammount
[2016-02-21 21:29:12] rapidtrades : yes at the set limit price
[2016-02-21 21:29:29] habibi : limit price is at what price u wanna buy sell if prices goes to stop price
[2016-02-21 21:29:46] rapidtrades : stop price is the trigger basically
[2016-02-21 21:30:42] BTCDJS : so if i set a price to buy at 400 thats the stop price. and if i want it to sell at 450 thats the limit price?
[2016-02-21 21:30:56] rapidtrades : no
[2016-02-21 21:31:01] habibi : no. u going sleep with long but u worried that u will get rekt
[2016-02-21 21:31:19] BTCDJS : so the other way around
[2016-02-21 21:31:37] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: test it with 450 as trigger and 447 as limit
[2016-02-21 21:31:38] habibi : so u set stop limit so when prices go opossite ur position u close it or close some of ur position at loss/less profit whatever
[2016-02-21 21:31:43] rapidtrades : 1 contract
[2016-02-21 21:32:11] rapidtrades : or 443 and 430 as limit
[2016-02-21 21:32:29] rapidtrades : so u get insta results
[2016-02-21 21:32:46] viptrader : pump it
[2016-02-21 21:33:00] BTCDJS : nothing lights up when i set 443 as limit and 430 as stop
[2016-02-21 21:33:02] rapidtrades : viptrader: dude noone likes u
[2016-02-21 21:33:15] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: did it set a limit just now?
[2016-02-21 21:33:22] viptrader : rapidtrades: thnx, not talking to u tho
[2016-02-21 21:33:27] viptrader : u seem mad
[2016-02-21 21:33:59] BTCDJS : nope nothing lights up buttons are dead
[2016-02-21 21:34:15] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-02-21 21:34:47] rapidtrades : no idea, habiji?
[2016-02-21 21:35:11] BTCDJS : its weird. just leave it. I've tried this all before thats why i ask
[2016-02-21 21:35:28] rapidtrades : maybe it's an actual stop loss order
[2016-02-21 21:35:45] rapidtrades : for me sell works cos i have a long
[2016-02-21 21:35:57] justinlooking : u don't need a position to use stoplimit
[2016-02-21 21:36:06] justinlooking : at least you shouldn't
[2016-02-21 21:36:13] justinlooking : they can be used for different things, like breakout trading
[2016-02-21 21:36:19] rapidtrades : u sure? buy is grayed out
[2016-02-21 21:36:19] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: maybe its a UI problem?
[2016-02-21 21:36:24] BTCDJS : bug?
[2016-02-21 21:36:27] habibi : its all goood guys.
[2016-02-21 21:36:31] rapidtrades : justinlooking: I thought so too, that's how they work on okc
[2016-02-21 21:36:55] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: they do work actually
[2016-02-21 21:37:18] rapidtrades : twy stop 443 and 435 limit
[2016-02-21 21:37:31] viptrader : another breakout
[2016-02-21 21:37:32] justinlooking : if ur selling and buy is greyed out its prolly coz trigger is below best bid and it would trigger as soon as submitted
[2016-02-21 21:37:46] rapidtrades : yep had them reverse, works now
[2016-02-21 21:39:34] BTCDJS : nope mine was lit then i changed the amounts. then nothing. i think its a bug
[2016-02-21 21:39:50] BTCDJS : I've tried the amounts in reverse too
[2016-02-21 21:40:04] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: set stop 444, limit 435 cont 1
[2016-02-21 21:40:07] justinlooking : ? there is only 1 amt
[2016-02-21 21:40:20] 00Smurf : how do i turn back on the pop up, asking if i am sure i want to do a trade
[2016-02-21 21:40:38] BTCDJS : done no joy
[2016-02-21 21:40:52] BTCDJS : its grey
[2016-02-21 21:41:03] rapidtrades : stop limit?
[2016-02-21 21:41:20] habibi : change stop price
[2016-02-21 21:41:22] habibi : with the other one
[2016-02-21 21:41:28] habibi : and u will is light
[2016-02-21 21:41:33] justinlooking : 00Smurf:
[2016-02-21 21:41:35] BTCDJS : i just switched them
[2016-02-21 21:41:35] justinlooking : https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences
[2016-02-21 21:41:36] rapidtrades : habibi: i already told him what to set
[2016-02-21 21:41:39] justinlooking : confirmation dialogs
[2016-02-21 21:41:56] BTCDJS : I'm telling you man its the UI buggy
[2016-02-21 21:42:04] rapidtrades : are u on mobile
[2016-02-21 21:42:11] justinlooking : what params do u hav?
[2016-02-21 21:42:16] BTCDJS : no macbook pro
[2016-02-21 21:43:32] rapidtrades : box 1 put 1 box 2 put 435 box 3 put 444
[2016-02-21 21:44:06] justinlooking : wtf wot kind of limitstop is that rapid
[2016-02-21 21:44:10] BTCDJS : done that
[2016-02-21 21:44:25] rapidtrades : justinlooking: that's how the UI is set
[2016-02-21 21:44:35] rapidtrades : limit is middle
[2016-02-21 21:44:51] BTCDJS : limit is lower than stop
[2016-02-21 21:44:57] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-02-21 21:45:44] BTCDJS : ok i went out of it then back in. the button was green. but error upon submission message came up
[2016-02-21 21:46:07] rapidtrades : well guess u have a bug then
[2016-02-21 21:47:10] rapidtrades : i get a confirmation box when i click it
[2016-02-21 21:47:20] BTCDJS : yeah click that
[2016-02-21 21:47:24] BTCDJS : error?
[2016-02-21 21:47:30] rapidtrades : nah sets just fine
[2016-02-21 21:47:37] BTCDJS : bug.
[2016-02-21 21:47:43] rapidtrades : goes under stops
[2016-02-21 21:47:47] justinlooking : rapidtrades: i mean those numbers dont make sense
[2016-02-21 21:47:47] BTCDJS : I'm going for a ciggarette
[2016-02-21 21:47:58] rapidtrades : justinlooking: it's for a test
[2016-02-21 21:48:39] BTCDJS : justinlooking: yeah I'm not trying to set an order
[2016-02-21 21:48:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2500 @ 441.05
[2016-02-21 21:48:53] rapidtrades : brb too, looks like we're stalling here
[2016-02-21 21:49:34] justinlooking : why would say enter a stop 2usd above here if the price trades 10usd below ??
[2016-02-21 21:49:52] justinlooking : dat 11==14 tang
[2016-02-21 21:56:53] sleger : lol
[2016-02-21 21:59:26] BTCDJS : justinlooking: because I'm not trying to make a trade. my stop limit console is buggy and we are trying to figure it out
[2016-02-21 22:00:24] justinlooking : BTCDJS: i'd be surprised if it was buggy. those params don't make sense. understanding why is a key to understanding stoplimts...
[2016-02-21 22:00:45] BTCDJS : ok i get what you are saying
[2016-02-21 22:01:16] Tulip_stefan : hover over the text in the order controls to get an explanation
[2016-02-21 22:01:59] BTCDJS : justinlooking: it was because one contract is too small
[2016-02-21 22:02:09] rapidtrades : lol?
[2016-02-21 22:02:21] BTCDJS : and i have to set the price according to current market
[2016-02-21 22:02:37] rapidtrades : i set it with 1 contract
[2016-02-21 22:02:48] justinlooking : can't tell if trolling
[2016-02-21 22:02:55] Tulip_stefan : i can create a stop with 1 contract too.
[2016-02-21 22:03:03] BTCDJS : 100 is the lowest amount
[2016-02-21 22:03:10] rapidtrades : ahhh
[2016-02-21 22:03:25] rapidtrades : are on milibits or whatever?
[2016-02-21 22:03:33] BTCDJS : if i go 99 its grey again
[2016-02-21 22:03:50] rapidtrades : what lol
[2016-02-21 22:04:03] BTCDJS : no i figured it out
[2016-02-21 22:04:12] rapidtrades : i really doubt that
[2016-02-21 22:04:19] BTCDJS : its the bloody hidden order thats interfering
[2016-02-21 22:04:26] rapidtrades : :(
[2016-02-21 22:04:38] BTCDJS : i had hidden order on 100
[2016-02-21 22:04:48] BTCDJS : works fine now
[2016-02-21 22:06:06] Tulip_stefan : Yeah i noticed that too. When you select the post-only order checkbox and then try to set a market order, it'll complain that you can't set a market order with post-only set. Bit of bad UI design if you ask me.
[2016-02-21 22:07:00] BTCDJS : so it looks like a stop limit may be the way to go from now on
[2016-02-21 22:07:18] justinlooking : depends
[2016-02-21 22:07:25] BTCDJS : yeah depends
[2016-02-21 22:07:44] BTCDJS : but at least i can use it
[2016-02-21 22:08:46] justinlooking : hopefully trailing stops will be in ui soon
[2016-02-21 22:12:09] rapidtrades : anyone rolling their margin funding on finex? what duration do u roll for
[2016-02-21 22:18:50] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: have you ever gone long with your entire balance? if so, can you still put an opposite order in with no balance seeing as it costs nothing?
[2016-02-21 22:19:44] BTCDJS : or will it not allow it unless you have an amount of the same value to counter it?
[2016-02-21 22:23:09] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: Heyhey :) Any updates about the withheld profit not being unlocked?
[2016-02-21 22:24:52] justinlooking : tscha: is that 8hr thing new?
[2016-02-21 22:25:03] tscha : justinlooking: yes
[2016-02-21 22:25:32] justinlooking : cool, only on 24h?
[2016-02-21 22:25:35] tscha : I thought its automatic, but maybe it has to be done manually and well.. sundays :D
[2016-02-21 22:27:32] tscha : justinlooking: nah, all contracts I think
[2016-02-21 22:33:24] sleger : all contracts and yes i think its still manual as they evaluate market risk
[2016-02-21 22:34:54] justinlooking : discretionary profit equalisation
[2016-02-21 22:35:36] tscha : why would they evaluate market risk? doesn't matter for them if the market goes ham after they unlock profits.. as long as they don't unlock when there is dpe
[2016-02-21 22:38:19] tscha : ok, not true entirely, I take it back... A could make a loss and B profit in session 1, then B withdraws, then in session 2 there is dpe when a A makes profit and C loses... that way A has no withheld profit
[2016-02-21 22:38:41] sleger : yep
[2016-02-21 22:39:40] sleger : there is never a free win in a futures market and their strategy seems to be min(count(dpe>0))
[2016-02-21 22:39:40] viptrader : CHINA pumping
[2016-02-21 22:56:53] Tulip_stefan : 5 minutes until bedtime. Starting bot with orders enabled now...
[2016-02-21 22:57:14] ayy lmao : somehow my cross margin got switched to 100x
[2016-02-21 22:57:19] ayy lmao : almost rekt
[2016-02-21 22:57:27] ayy lmao : lol
[2016-02-21 22:59:20] spinte7 : Tulip_stefan: ce bot?
[2016-02-21 22:59:29] Tulip_stefan : ce = ?
[2016-02-21 22:59:42] spinte7 : Tulip_stefan: what bot are u starting?
[2016-02-21 22:59:57] Tulip_stefan : trading bot i built.
[2016-02-21 23:00:08] spinte7 : Tulip_stefan: are u from romania?
[2016-02-21 23:00:14] Tulip_stefan : nope, netherlands.
[2016-02-21 23:00:17] spinte7 : oooh
[2016-02-21 23:00:38] spinte7 : Tulip_stefan: thought you are from romania, you have a romanian name
[2016-02-21 23:00:55] BTCDJS : Tulip_stefan: praat je nederlands?
[2016-02-21 23:00:58] Tulip_stefan : ja.
[2016-02-21 23:01:03] spinte7 : Tulip_stefan: do you have success with your bot?
[2016-02-21 23:01:14] BTCDJS : ek praat afrikaans
[2016-02-21 23:01:17] BTCDJS : ik
[2016-02-21 23:01:42] Tulip_stefan : i have a bunch of money last 2 years on various exchanges, i'm not sure about bitmex yet.
[2016-02-21 23:01:49] BTCDJS : dis amper diezelfde
[2016-02-21 23:02:05] spinte7 : Tulip_stefan: gratz man
[2016-02-21 23:02:37] Tulip_stefan : have made*
[2016-02-21 23:02:40] Tulip_stefan : thanks.
[2016-02-21 23:04:28] BTCDJS : aangename kennis. ik is lief van nederland. dit lyk soos n mooi land en ik lyk die kultuur
[2016-02-21 23:04:40] Tulip_stefan : Bot seems to work fine. I'll let it run tonight. There is only 0.08 BTC on this account anyway...
[2016-02-21 23:04:51] Tulip_stefan : dat klinkt niet echt als nederlands.
[2016-02-21 23:05:05] BTCDJS : dis afrikaans
[2016-02-21 23:07:06] Tulip_stefan : Anyway i'm off to bed. I'll see if my bot gambled everything away tomorrow.
[2016-02-21 23:07:19] spinte7 : Tulip_stefan: good night man
[2016-02-21 23:08:14] BTCDJS : goodnight
[2016-02-21 23:14:47] viptrader : time to go long if u didnt already
[2016-02-21 23:16:05] BTCDJS : viptrader: how much you long?
[2016-02-21 23:16:23] viptrader : BTCDJS: 4000
[2016-02-21 23:17:16] BTCDJS : 4000 bitcoins wow. you're a real whale
[2016-02-21 23:21:41] viptrader : BTCDJS: 4000 shares
[2016-02-21 23:21:43] viptrader : not bitcoin
[2016-02-21 23:21:48] viptrader : haha wish that
[2016-02-21 23:22:00] BTCDJS : oh
[2016-02-21 23:22:14] BTCDJS : when did you enter?
[2016-02-21 23:22:25] BTCDJS : what price?
[2016-02-21 23:24:35] viptrader : BTCDJS: 438
[2016-02-21 23:24:40] BTCDJS : 0kcoin got some pretty big short orders in.
[2016-02-21 23:25:12] BTCDJS : i think we are going down even though I'm long myself
[2016-02-21 23:26:53] viptrader : BTCDJS: tiny downs maybe
[2016-02-21 23:27:00] viptrader : but overall we are going up
[2016-02-21 23:27:01] sleger : BTCDJS: you're a masochist ?
[2016-02-21 23:27:38] BTCDJS : googling masochist
[2016-02-21 23:28:22] BTCDJS : no
[2016-02-21 23:28:38] BTCDJS : how do you come to that conclusion?
[2016-02-21 23:40:40] sleger : BTCDJS: because : " BTCDJS: i think we are going down even though I'm long myself"
[2016-02-21 23:46:15] BTCDJS : sleger: its constantly in the back of my mind that this correction may not be over. although at the time of placing my order i was bullish. but I still have a position open and I'm tired.
[2016-02-21 23:48:42] sleger : but you understand why I asked if you were a masochist ?
[2016-02-21 23:49:29] BTCDJS : yes you were trying to take a dig for fun based on my comment
[2016-02-21 23:50:28] BTCDJS : at least i learned a new word today ?
[2016-02-21 23:51:28] sleger : being a masochist is okay, look at that prosecutor in the new show Billions
[2016-02-21 23:53:34] BTCDJS : ha yeah they have a freaky relationship.
[2016-02-22 00:14:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 438.43
[2016-02-22 00:14:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 200 @ 437.95
[2016-02-22 00:14:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 437.67 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-22 00:14:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 438.43 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-22 00:14:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 438.94
[2016-02-22 00:14:11] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2016-02-22 00:14:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 475 @ 438.38
[2016-02-22 00:17:42] gustavo7 : lets see
[2016-02-22 00:18:29] BTCDJS : it stopped on the 5min candle trend line ?
[2016-02-22 00:32:07] BTCDJS : gustavo7: you did it
[2016-02-22 00:33:19] gustavo7 : not exactly, not in a great position now
[2016-02-22 00:34:38] BTCDJS : sidewards but atlas its not a rapid fall
[2016-02-22 00:34:45] BTCDJS : at least
[2016-02-22 00:35:18] gustavo7 : but that what i've benn hoping for tbh ;)
[2016-02-22 00:35:45] BTCDJS : you were short
[2016-02-22 00:47:53] random1001 : Hi
[2016-02-22 00:59:57] 00Smurf : does, the index price trigger the mcalls
[2016-02-22 01:00:08] 00Smurf : or is it based off what an actual trade was on this exchange
[2016-02-22 01:13:14] viptrader : is everyone rekt?
[2016-02-22 01:21:03] 00Smurf : anyone?
[2016-02-22 01:23:44] jung1 : Its based on mark price
[2016-02-22 01:24:30] jung1 : 00Smurf:
[2016-02-22 01:28:42] 00Smurf : so for liquidations, even if the mexexchange price has not reached or won't reach whatever the market price is, it will still liquidate you?
[2016-02-22 01:29:31] rapidtrades : mark price is usually in the middle of the bid/ask
[2016-02-22 01:31:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 435.93 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-22 01:31:22] rapidtrades : rekted
[2016-02-22 01:32:47] jung1 : rapidtrades: when you sleep?
[2016-02-22 01:33:42] rapidtrades : just woke up
[2016-02-22 01:33:46] 00Smurf : yea
[2016-02-22 01:33:53] 00Smurf : unless there is no activity on the market
[2016-02-22 01:37:19] jung1 : Keep calm and buy eth
[2016-02-22 02:08:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 800 @ 439.29
[2016-02-22 02:15:51] viptrader : LET IT BE PUMP
[2016-02-22 02:16:02] viptrader : U R FREE TO GO BITCORN
[2016-02-22 02:21:07] viptrader : get ur buys filled
[2016-02-22 02:25:09] viptrader : SHOULD BOUNCE HERE
[2016-02-22 02:26:43] viptrader : here we go
[2016-02-22 02:26:48] viptrader : upp uppp uppp
[2016-02-22 02:27:50] viptrader : dont panic guys, just place your buys
[2016-02-22 02:28:15] habibi : hm as said, with new ui lvl of trollbox drastically decreased
[2016-02-22 02:29:00] viptrader : habibi: is that a complement?
[2016-02-22 02:29:03] viptrader : a good thing?
[2016-02-22 02:33:49] viptrader : a big green move coming
[2016-02-22 02:45:26] viptrader : YOU CAN FLY NOW BITCOIN
[2016-02-22 02:56:55] rapidtrades : take ur meds guy
[2016-02-22 02:56:58] rapidtrades : plz
[2016-02-22 02:59:22] viptrader : rapidtrades: talk that shit to ur mom
[2016-02-22 02:59:32] viptrader : cunt
[2016-02-22 03:01:19] rapidtrades : jezz the manners on this guy
[2016-02-22 03:02:05] habibi : Yep, bitmex guys,could u do a proper thing?
[2016-02-22 03:07:31] viptrader : go suck each other's dick, not here
[2016-02-22 03:26:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1 @ 437.84 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-22 03:43:56] gouda : wow.. didn't know this was polo chat
[2016-02-22 04:12:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 6017 @ 0.01139
[2016-02-22 05:04:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 342 @ 0.01189
[2016-02-22 05:06:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 800 @ 0.01237
[2016-02-22 05:11:09] ayy lmao : 393 users eh
[2016-02-22 05:26:18] chromaticcr : @rapidtrades @BitMEX_Sam I guess we need more filters
[2016-02-22 05:35:55] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, we'll add the c word
[2016-02-22 05:37:38] laisee : BitMex: pls leave off jerk, twat, plonker and asshat for now. Still useful in chat from time to time.
[2016-02-22 05:37:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `A50G16`: Buy 1 @ 9222.50 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-22 05:38:31] gouda : area with held profits shown in your overall balance
[2016-02-22 05:38:36] gouda : are*
[2016-02-22 05:40:10] chromaticcr : perhaps add a payban in which funds go to funds for DPE or newbie faucet, we can get more degens here to play around and liq'd
[2016-02-22 05:42:43] BitMEX_Wally : gouda: All PNL is added to your balance and then subtracted by withheld profit
[2016-02-22 05:43:15] gouda : so withheld profit is not shown
[2016-02-22 05:43:32] gouda : so total balance is not including withheld profit?
[2016-02-22 05:44:37] BitMEX_Wally : Correct
[2016-02-22 05:45:01] gouda : ok thanks
[2016-02-22 06:18:35] Tulip_stefan : Bah. My bot stpped working after about 1 hour because the clock on my machine went out of sync with bitmex' servers...
[2016-02-22 06:19:10] BitMEX_Wally : ntpd should fix that :)
[2016-02-22 06:20:38] Tulip_stefan : i use windows with time.nist.gov as ntp server as microsoft' time servers are sucky, but apparently it's not good enough.
[2016-02-22 06:20:49] Tulip_stefan : my laptop is about 40 seconds out of sync..
[2016-02-22 06:23:57] Tulip_stefan : i'll just increase the api-expires timeout until i figure out a way to correctly sync the timestamp.
[2016-02-22 06:24:16] BTCDJS : REKT
[2016-02-22 06:26:42] Tulip_stefan : it was also unable to cancel orders because of the out-of-sync clock. That is, ehh, sad.
[2016-02-22 06:37:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 341 @ 434.33
[2016-02-22 06:38:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 12000 @ 433.27
[2016-02-22 06:38:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 9 @ 433.58
[2016-02-22 06:38:32] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-02-22 07:34:27] rapidtrades : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-22/banks-keep-cutting-currency-traders-as-volatility-no-job-saver
[2016-02-22 08:13:26] rapidtrades : hey i just logged back in and I had to reaarange my windows again
[2016-02-22 08:14:16] rapidtrades : does it not save anymore? this UI can't do anything right
[2016-02-22 09:41:59] mrp1nk : hmmm... dumpas?
[2016-02-22 09:43:12] rapidtrades : nah it's cool
[2016-02-22 11:59:59] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: clickable position is DANGEROUSLY BROKEN
[2016-02-22 12:05:00] rapidtrades : everything's broken
[2016-02-22 12:05:32] habibi : sleger: did u get use to new ui? i am trying and still can't get into
[2016-02-22 12:05:42] rapidtrades : NOPE
[2016-02-22 12:06:13] rapidtrades : i almost made another mistake today, but was saved by a warning window
[2016-02-22 12:07:26] rapidtrades : i placed amount/price in wrong windows...the text is barely visible, it only says Qu and Li
[2016-02-22 12:10:04] rapidtrades : it's very easy to make mistakes when ur in a hurry on this UI
[2016-02-22 12:10:49] j8 : i almost doubled my position instead of closing it... clicking the negative position in the sidebar autofills a negative quantity order, which sells when you click buy
[2016-02-22 12:13:01] rapidtrades : yday mistake cost me $15...I accept most of the blame but it never happened on the old UI since my first week of tradinghere
[2016-02-22 12:13:38] ali2016 : hello
[2016-02-22 12:15:05] viptrader : the pump has started
[2016-02-22 12:15:41] tscha : j8: true, needs to be changed
[2016-02-22 12:16:05] habibi : hm looks like viptrader got silenced here, we are pumping and he is not even talking anything here. strange but good :)
[2016-02-22 12:16:10] j8 : already e-mailed support, it's a bad one
[2016-02-22 12:16:58] tscha : same thing happened to me last night, tried to close position and placed a sell order into the book instead :)
[2016-02-22 12:17:33] habibi : j8: tscha u really like new ui? i mean, its more usable for u then old one?
[2016-02-22 12:20:00] j8 : i think it's fine, i mostly care about performance which seems better than it was
[2016-02-22 12:24:02] laisee : would like to be able to resize all windows, as can be done with Trollbox.
[2016-02-22 12:52:30] BTCDJS : habibi: lol
[2016-02-22 13:10:55] BitMEX_Wally : j8: Bug has been fixed in testnet, please confirm: https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-02-22 13:13:01] ali2016 : اه فاثقث
[2016-02-22 13:13:08] ali2016 : hi there
[2016-02-22 13:13:58] ali2016 : why the price is constant and move up and doun like slooooooly
[2016-02-22 13:19:59] BitMEX_Wally : Negative orderQty bug has been fixed, please refresh
[2016-02-22 13:22:02] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: when i logged into testnet there was still a negative qty filled in, and it submitted wrong, so no validation on submit.. clicking does fill a positive value now though
[2016-02-22 13:22:31] tscha : habibi: new ui is still not perfect and can be improved, but it has more potential
[2016-02-22 13:23:20] BitMEX_Wally : j8: Ok, sounds like the immediate bug has been fixed. We will add more validation onto the orderQty so it rejects negative numbers no matter how they get there
[2016-02-22 13:26:42] j8 : cool, i almost doubled my position earlier instead of closing.. yikes
[2016-02-22 13:28:23] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Wally: i placed a long order at 435. and i short order of the same amount of contracts higher up, should cost be 0?
[2016-02-22 13:28:43] BitMEX_Wally : j8: The order confirmation box was 'correct' at least
[2016-02-22 13:29:44] BTCDJS : shouldn't*
[2016-02-22 13:29:54] BitMEX_Wally : BTCDJS: Yes, if you have a long position or open buy orders then there is no additional initial margin requirement for a matching sell order
[2016-02-22 13:30:24] BTCDJS : but it is telling me cost is 0.0185 @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-02-22 13:30:30] tscha : well, it sold when he clicked buy, so... that should never happen
[2016-02-22 13:30:54] BitMEX_Wally : tscha: Not defending the behaviour, but at least the order confirmation box said 'sell'
[2016-02-22 13:31:12] BitMEX_Wally : BTCDJS: The cost will never be 0 because of commission
[2016-02-22 13:31:17] tscha : ah okay, thats what u meant
[2016-02-22 13:31:49] BTCDJS : ok
[2016-02-22 13:32:53] j8 : i have confirmations turned off, but when i checked the tooltip after it was wrong, saying i would buy place a limit buy and increase my position, but it placed a limit sell to decrease my position @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-02-22 13:33:35] BitMEX_Wally : We should never allow negative numbers in that order control, we will fix that too soon
[2016-02-22 13:37:52] j8 : yeah, seems like checking on submit is the most foolproof.. i sometimes find it pretty annoying when input boxes are changing what i'm typing on the fly.. exchanges all do it differently and browsers react differently
[2016-02-22 13:42:55] j8 : for example, using firefox i'm able to submit an order for `438.`, using chrome it has to be `438` or `438.0` or `438.00`
[2016-02-22 13:50:53] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you riding this bitch all the way to 460?
[2016-02-22 14:32:36] sleger : 48H is there <3
[2016-02-22 14:36:26] rapidtrades : nice
[2016-02-22 14:42:37] rapidtrades : the b1tch is indeed being ridden @BTCDJS
[2016-02-22 15:15:27] jung1 : go eth go
[2016-02-22 16:03:13] BTCDJS : If that snake coils up any more it's going to turn into a steak
[2016-02-22 16:06:59] viptrader : hey, what's the differnce between daily x100 and daily roll x100
[2016-02-22 16:07:00] viptrader : ?
[2016-02-22 16:07:51] BTCDJS : viptrader: click the question mark next to it
[2016-02-22 16:08:06] viptrader : BTCDJS: :)
[2016-02-22 16:08:57] aethlios : great 48H!!!
[2016-02-22 16:10:33] viptrader : but expiry is in 20 hours
[2016-02-22 16:10:41] viptrader : same as x100
[2016-02-22 16:11:44] BTCDJS : Roll over is the key word here bud
[2016-02-22 16:12:21] viptrader : so it means you can add another 24 hours to ur position?
[2016-02-22 16:15:12] BTCDJS : Yep
[2016-02-22 16:33:49] gouda : yes you can hold for 2 days very nice add
[2016-02-22 16:33:53] gouda : thanks bitmex!