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[2016-02-17 23:37:27] miramm1115 : they are still dangerous but since MM switched to order amend it's not so bad
[2016-02-17 23:37:40] BitMEX_Sam : Yes - order amend helps a lot
[2016-02-17 23:43:30] micmix : http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-snow-storm-in-pictures-photos-1.3450496
[2016-02-17 23:44:00] micmix : saw several people skiing on the sidewalks in the city today
[2016-02-17 23:44:08] BitMEX_Sam : Woof. 51cm
[2016-02-17 23:45:20] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 1000 @ 415.65
[2016-02-17 23:46:01] tscha : micmix: you're from ottawa? wonderful city, was there 2011
[2016-02-17 23:46:54] micmix : tscha: yeah, we moved to Ottawa about 5 years ago, very nice city
[2016-02-17 23:47:18] habibi : yea yea Skoda Octava is not that bad car, agree
[2016-02-17 23:49:08] micmix : tscha: but I'm apparently not Canadian enough because I don't go skating on Rideau Canal when it's -30C :-)
[2016-02-17 23:49:48] tscha : micmix: hahaha :)
[2016-02-17 23:51:34] micmix : We have people wearing t-shirts when it's -10, I'm not kidding. Couple days ago was -42C with wind chill and I saw people jogging, it's crazy!
[2016-02-17 23:52:17] BitMEX_Sam : Oh yeah. Once it hits above freezing it's t-shirts and shorts everywhere
[2016-02-17 23:52:32] micmix : yep
[2016-02-17 23:53:38] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: my fair price on 7D was stuck, I had to refresh the page to get the right one
[2016-02-17 23:53:58] BitMEX_Sam : Will check on it
[2016-02-17 23:54:05] BitMEX_Sam : Huge number of updates coming tomorrow by the way.
[2016-02-17 23:54:22] BitMEX_Sam : As a regular user, if you're at all interested, would really appreciate comments on https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBT24H
[2016-02-17 23:54:31] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: did u consider option to choose whether new ui or old one?
[2016-02-17 23:54:44] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Not going to happen, unfortunately
[2016-02-17 23:54:50] BitMEX_Sam : Would be too many code paths to support.
[2016-02-17 23:55:17] BitMEX_Sam : The main reason why the changes have been made are to address the biggest user concerns and support new order types, which require more space in the order controls
[2016-02-17 23:55:34] habibi : i personally hate that order putting options are not in the middle of screen
[2016-02-17 23:55:38] habibi : but maybe i will get use to it
[2016-02-17 23:55:47] BitMEX_Sam : I think you will, but I agree that any change is jarring at first
[2016-02-17 23:56:02] BitMEX_Sam : The main reasoning is that we need an order controls that is a fixed width and can expand vertically
[2016-02-17 23:56:14] BitMEX_Sam : So we can do very complex types like trigger order / stop loss / take profit
[2016-02-17 23:57:05] sleger : why putting the chart window on by default ? i would rather see other things
[2016-02-17 23:57:20] BitMEX_Sam : Because there's room for it now.
[2016-02-17 23:57:32] BitMEX_Sam : That's actually been the #1 requested thing.
[2016-02-17 23:58:13] habibi : totally agree with sleger
[2016-02-17 23:58:24] habibi : and u say u dont have place enought for order options but u have for useless chart :p
[2016-02-17 23:58:30] habibi : no offence Sam
[2016-02-17 23:58:33] BitMEX_Sam : Hah I wouldn't call it useless at all.
[2016-02-17 23:58:53] BitMEX_Sam : Charts are one of the first things users look for when coming to a trading site. I agree that once you becomes more used to the platform, it's less necessary
[2016-02-17 23:58:57] sleger : There is a bias being the #1 requested thing, its because it wasnt there before. People wont ask for things they have already
[2016-02-17 23:59:07] sleger : bitfinex doesnt have charts
[2016-02-17 23:59:13] sleger : 0kcoin not on trading site
[2016-02-17 23:59:21] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: When we added the basic layout, a ton of people complained that the chart was no longer visible
[2016-02-17 23:59:27] habibi : we look at tradeblock, china spots, futures okc spots, finex, even okc usd chart
[2016-02-17 23:59:34] habibi : but not bitmex, a follower
[2016-02-17 23:59:37] BitMEX_Sam : That's interesting feedback though
[2016-02-17 23:59:42] j8 : bitfinex has a chart, it's just minimized by default
[2016-02-17 23:59:51] BitMEX_Sam : I always considered it a foregone conclusion that people would want it.
[2016-02-18 00:00:10] sleger : j8: ah you're right i never saw it before
[2016-02-18 00:00:26] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: would be best if we could move widgets around
[2016-02-18 00:00:30] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: That's coming :)
[2016-02-18 00:00:36] sleger : I agree that order controls are better where they are currently
[2016-02-18 00:00:50] BitMEX_Sam : Built https://strml.github.io/react-grid-layout/examples/0-showcase.html for BitMEX
[2016-02-18 00:01:01] BitMEX_Sam : Actually is in use on AWS now - it's CloudWatch Dashboards
[2016-02-18 00:01:26] sleger : also the trollbox on testnet hides some more important info
[2016-02-18 00:01:27] BitMEX_Sam : A bit embarrassed that they deployed it earlier than I did... but it's definitely coming soon.
[2016-02-18 00:01:35] habibi : yea, i won't get use to it i will need to pay someone to make some simple gui for me if its simple enough to do
[2016-02-18 00:01:37] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: It's fully resizable now
[2016-02-18 00:01:38] sleger : and the fonts on top are too big
[2016-02-18 00:01:42] BitMEX_Sam : And remembers its position
[2016-02-18 00:01:42] habibi : if i won't get use to it*
[2016-02-18 00:02:02] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: As in the contract types?
[2016-02-18 00:02:14] sleger : bitcoin (xbt)
[2016-02-18 00:02:19] BitMEX_Sam : Gotcha.
[2016-02-18 00:02:25] sleger : and the row above it Trade / Account ...
[2016-02-18 00:03:18] sleger : the github link is exactly what i was talking about yes, that would be perfect then i can send the chart back to where it belongs and put back the buy sell next to the prices etc
[2016-02-18 00:04:06] habibi : and the leverage setting is not like someone would change every second order imho, leave that option in settings page would be enought i guess
[2016-02-18 00:04:34] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks all - have to leave for a bit but feel free to leave feedback here, I'll read it when I'm back.
[2016-02-18 00:04:48] tscha : First of all, sorry for giving feedback so late. I agree that order options on the side are very odd. Maybe it's because I am not used to it. But IMHO the most important object (order control) should always be in the main sight field. On the new design, users with large screens (like me) actually have to turn their heads when changing focus from current position to order controls.
[2016-02-18 00:05:15] habibi : totally agree
[2016-02-18 00:05:36] tscha : My eyes have to travel a too far way
[2016-02-18 00:06:06] tscha : at least the orderbook is close though
[2016-02-18 00:06:16] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, the orderbook will always move to be next to the order controls.
[2016-02-18 00:06:23] BitMEX_Sam : You can switch the side in the order options menu (gear icon)
[2016-02-18 00:06:43] BitMEX_Sam : The order controls in the sidebar is pretty common; I know Coinbase and Quoine do it, a few more may as well
[2016-02-18 00:07:11] BitMEX_Sam : From a webdev standpoint, it makes my job 5x easier, meaning I can focus on bringing new features rather than trying to make existing ones fit in a cramped space
[2016-02-18 00:07:49] BitMEX_Sam : The issue with the current position is that it expands and contracts with browser width (desktop/tablet/phone) and can't expand vertically
[2016-02-18 00:07:50] habibi : but u know these exchanges are pretty odd... like for hipsters, here bitmex is aiming to world wide futures leader !
[2016-02-18 00:07:55] BitMEX_Sam : So it poses very restrictive design constraints.
[2016-02-18 00:07:57] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: :D
[2016-02-18 00:08:01] BitMEX_Sam : Okay now I really have to go. Be back later
[2016-02-18 00:14:37] tscha : In the left side it's a little bit better. Close to book, orders and position, and the least important thing for me (wallet balance) far away. Any plans that users can swap objects of same heights horizontally in the near future? So if I have order control on the very left, then I can f.e. swap chart with trades so chart is on the very right? That way each user could swap the objects the way he likes it most, and push the least important far away... not sure how hard to implement that is.
[2016-02-18 00:20:26] tscha : Oh and by the way, IMHO the leverage bar looks a bit cheap compared to the rest of the design.. not sure why, maybe it's the grey "leverage" font, the green 1px border or the warning sign... would like to hide it but position is quite important after all :) Having the instruments as tabs now is much better I think, more intuitive and switching is faster
[2016-02-18 00:33:06] rapidtrades : tscha: woah
[2016-02-18 00:46:18] thehawthorne : tl;dr
[2016-02-18 00:52:03] rapidtrades : bloomberg has too many chubby presenters
[2016-02-18 00:52:12] amirmass : anyone can send me 0.05 btc
[2016-02-18 00:52:16] amirmass : a loan
[2016-02-18 00:52:27] habibi : amirmass: u need to ask Sleger the Wealthy Muslim
[2016-02-18 00:52:30] rapidtrades : did u ask the Generous Muslim sleger?
[2016-02-18 00:52:39] habibi : :D
[2016-02-18 00:52:54] amirmass : sleger: can you?
[2016-02-18 00:53:27] sleger : I dont think I would see my money back
[2016-02-18 00:53:48] amirmass : im a good trader, last summer i did really good
[2016-02-18 00:53:53] sleger : plus muslims dont pay interest
[2016-02-18 00:54:09] sleger : you shouldnt have quit last summer
[2016-02-18 00:54:12] amirmass : sleger: i will return you 0.15 instead
[2016-02-18 00:54:16] amirmass : once i hit 1 btc
[2016-02-18 00:54:18] amirmass : easy
[2016-02-18 00:54:33] amirmass : sleger: pills unfort...
[2016-02-18 00:54:34] tscha : amirmass: I will send you 0.05btc, but only if you give me 0.45 back ok?
[2016-02-18 00:54:54] amirmass : tscha: ok, but that gonna take time
[2016-02-18 00:55:02] sleger : how many summers ?
[2016-02-18 00:55:08] amirmass : i will return you 0.45 once i hit 2 btc
[2016-02-18 00:55:31] amirmass : funny but i did from 0.1 btc to 45 btc in 2months
[2016-02-18 00:55:43] thehawthorne : yeah lol
[2016-02-18 00:55:51] sleger : and what happened to those 45btc after ?
[2016-02-18 00:56:07] thehawthorne : and now you are around wanting to lend 0.005 btc
[2016-02-18 00:56:07] amirmass : cashed out everything to pay pills
[2016-02-18 00:56:21] amirmass : i live alone, so..
[2016-02-18 00:56:23] thehawthorne : heheheh
[2016-02-18 00:56:34] thehawthorne : Eth is deth
[2016-02-18 00:56:34] amirmass : thehawthorne: u can laugh
[2016-02-18 00:56:36] sleger : didnt you have a kid last time you chatted here ?
[2016-02-18 00:56:50] amirmass : no
[2016-02-18 00:57:09] sleger : hmm i think you did.
[2016-02-18 00:57:10] tscha : amirmass: in november you said you lost all your money and you can't feed your kids
[2016-02-18 00:57:28] sleger : scammers need to be smarter really....
[2016-02-18 00:57:35] sleger : at least remember your own lies
[2016-02-18 00:57:55] thehawthorne : i like him
[2016-02-18 00:57:56] thehawthorne : look
[2016-02-18 00:57:57] sleger : or you could have just said that he doesnt live with you
[2016-02-18 00:57:59] amirmass : what 0.05 btc make from ppl
[2016-02-18 00:58:02] amirmass : funny
[2016-02-18 00:58:08] habibi : LOL
[2016-02-18 00:58:18] habibi : i bet u didnt wanted to talk about urself right :D?
[2016-02-18 00:58:35] amirmass : sorry i asked
[2016-02-18 00:58:37] thehawthorne : if you give me 0.05 btc ill give you 0.050 btc
[2016-02-18 00:58:38] habibi : coz u are the example of "what 0.05 btc make from people"
[2016-02-18 00:58:56] messiaen8844 : no, he will use the coin multiplier site
[2016-02-18 00:59:02] amirmass : nevermind
[2016-02-18 00:59:12] amirmass : see u on my next X20
[2016-02-18 00:59:31] thehawthorne : bye
[2016-02-18 00:59:36] thehawthorne : have a nice one
[2016-02-18 00:59:43] thehawthorne : feed your kids properly
[2016-02-18 00:59:49] amirmass : thehawthorne: ok fucker
[2016-02-18 01:00:15] habibi : well, that escalated quicly. i though we would have some more fun
[2016-02-18 01:00:31] sleger : such a big mistake so early, sad... :(
[2016-02-18 01:26:34] BitMEX_Arthur : Webinar on the new A50 contract starting in 30 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjQkUtotSt0
[2016-02-18 01:43:37] JDUB99 : Its over 9000
[2016-02-18 01:43:38] JDUB99 : ！
[2016-02-18 02:07:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.00804
[2016-02-18 03:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 300 @ 0.00868
[2016-02-18 03:10:05] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 4500 @ 418.05
[2016-02-18 05:53:22] elmorte : qq, is there an FAQ on the testnet? I thought it was a demo type clone, but the trades are for real?
[2016-02-18 05:55:24] BitMEX_Arthur : elmorte: You can trade with Testnet Bitcoin
[2016-02-18 05:55:53] JDUB99 : ive been looking for a good chart for a50, and found this on investing.com
[2016-02-18 05:56:15] JDUB99 : would that be a good reference for china a50?
[2016-02-18 05:56:23] JDUB99 : since the google finance chart isnt so good...
[2016-02-18 06:05:35] BitMEX_Arthur : That might be more delayed than google though
[2016-02-18 06:08:45] JDUB99 : i c.... probably only good for longer term then
[2016-02-18 06:08:59] JDUB99 : in any case, for shorter term, i'll probably refer to the chart on the bitmex interface
[2016-02-18 06:09:02] BitMEX_Wally : Google Finance chart is crap because the Google engineers are assuming that a London calculated index only ticks during London hours...
[2016-02-18 06:09:27] BitMEX_Wally : So they throw away all the data during Chinese market hours
[2016-02-18 06:09:40] JDUB99 : also google no good in chiina
[2016-02-18 06:09:58] JDUB99 : vpn is another hassle on top
[2016-02-18 06:11:09] JDUB99 : especially if looking for real time info, vpn can cut out for a short while is sad panda
[2016-02-18 06:12:38] BitMEX_Arthur : We hear you, we are thinking of ways to get traders some better market data about the underlyin
[2016-02-18 06:14:09] JDUB99 : I think for a50, real time isnt as important, its seems to be a longer term trade
[2016-02-18 06:14:50] JDUB99 : since volatility will be capped, getting that 10-20% move will take a couple of weeks
[2016-02-18 06:16:00] JDUB99 : and if wanna day trade it, btc and eth seem to be better options imo
[2016-02-18 06:25:47] elmorte : BitMEX_Arthur: How do I get Testnet Bitcoin?
[2016-02-18 06:30:12] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Log into the testnet site and it will tell you
[2016-02-18 06:30:21] BitMEX_Wally : There are various faucets that give away Testnet Bitcoin
[2016-02-18 06:50:35] elmorte : Gotcha
[2016-02-18 06:52:41] elmorte : Had no idea such a thing existed
[2016-02-18 08:06:09] rapidtrades : move b1tch
[2016-02-18 08:18:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 400 @ 0.00922
[2016-02-18 08:28:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1224 @ 0.00934
[2016-02-18 08:45:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 40 @ 422.80
[2016-02-18 08:53:27] rapidtrades : dat slow grind higher
[2016-02-18 08:55:56] rapidtrades : what's the usefulness of the ''close limit'' order?
[2016-02-18 08:56:46] rapidtrades : also where are stop orders
[2016-02-18 08:57:11] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: They are exposed in the API will be on the front end soon
[2016-02-18 08:57:15] BitMEX_Arthur : in next few days
[2016-02-18 08:57:15] rapidtrades : like actual stops for exiting my trades
[2016-02-18 08:57:37] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: ok good thanks
[2016-02-18 08:57:43] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes it will trigger a market order once the stop is triggered
[2016-02-18 08:58:31] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: that's good. very few bitcoin exchanges have those...makes for very uncomfortable sleep when u have a large position
[2016-02-18 08:58:59] BitMEX_Arthur : Well market orders come with their own dangers
[2016-02-18 09:00:20] rapidtrades : yeah of course...you'll prolly get an increase in whining :)
[2016-02-18 09:02:30] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: what do u make of this slow grind higher? no big dildos yet
[2016-02-18 09:02:54] BitMEX_Arthur : People are still v worried about core vs. classic
[2016-02-18 09:03:03] TInvest : just gently caressing the bollinger sphincter
[2016-02-18 09:05:02] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: should be ok, unless they decide to f with the Chinese miners
[2016-02-18 09:05:19] justinlooking : lol TInvest
[2016-02-18 09:05:36] TInvest : got to ease your way through
[2016-02-18 09:07:45] rapidtrades : TInvest: u trading boilinger bands?
[2016-02-18 09:08:15] TInvest : BTCC OKcoin China & Huobi still pulling 14$/BtC ahead... i think this run might last a little while longer
[2016-02-18 09:08:24] TInvest : i've been known to take bollinger out for a drink
[2016-02-18 09:09:16] TInvest : aaannnnnnd good bye sells
[2016-02-18 09:10:54] rapidtrades : not selling until I see some premium, this is BS
[2016-02-18 09:11:09] TInvest : could someone hand me my ass please
[2016-02-18 09:13:47] rapidtrades : PBOC
[2016-02-18 09:14:48] BitMEX_Arthur : Premium is based on volatility
[2016-02-18 09:14:53] rapidtrades : some pboc news, no movement in Yuan
[2016-02-18 09:14:55] TInvest : what's with the FLA? Trading is supposed to be based on TLAs
[2016-02-18 09:14:56] rapidtrades : yet
[2016-02-18 09:16:12] rapidtrades : looks like a non-event
[2016-02-18 09:17:09] TInvest : he said, pleadingly
[2016-02-18 09:25:07] BitMEX_Arthur : PBOC has until the summer to keep playing these games
[2016-02-18 09:25:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.01004
[2016-02-18 09:28:31] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: why summer
[2016-02-18 09:28:58] BitMEX_Arthur : Once they hit about 2.7tn in reserves they are f'd
[2016-02-18 09:29:18] BitMEX_Arthur : They are at 3.2tn now, so if they average 100bn per month they have about 5-6 months
[2016-02-18 09:29:25] BitMEX_Arthur : before they hit critical levels
[2016-02-18 09:29:37] rapidtrades : idk...some say they have room until 2 trillion
[2016-02-18 09:29:43] rapidtrades : lot of estimates on that
[2016-02-18 09:29:48] rapidtrades : all over the place
[2016-02-18 09:29:55] BitMEX_Arthur : their banking system is f'd
[2016-02-18 09:30:02] rapidtrades : yeah prolly
[2016-02-18 09:30:19] TInvest : yes that iti s
[2016-02-18 09:30:26] TInvest : try having staff there
[2016-02-18 09:30:29] BitMEX_Arthur : just a matter of time
[2016-02-18 09:30:30] rapidtrades : I think they're just waiting for markets to calm down before continuing the devaluation
[2016-02-18 09:31:46] TInvest : excuse me, to whomever is offering 6000 at 422.59 could you kindly pull the plug please
[2016-02-18 09:31:55] rapidtrades : at this point is prolly counter-productive anyway...the more they devalue more capital leaves the country
[2016-02-18 09:32:35] TInvest : i think that's exactly it
[2016-02-18 09:32:53] TInvest : (mother fluffer! 422.48? c'mon)
[2016-02-18 09:33:21] rapidtrades : well finex is at 422.13 atm
[2016-02-18 09:33:28] TInvest : how long do we have left on the 24hr?
[2016-02-18 09:33:36] rapidtrades : 2.5 hrs
[2016-02-18 09:33:56] TInvest : finex is a place of madness and methheads
[2016-02-18 09:34:01] TInvest : thanks raptra
[2016-02-18 09:34:34] rapidtrades : I hope that name doesn't catch on...and if it does I hope you catch Zika
[2016-02-18 09:35:32] TInvest : aww, rappy you so sweet
[2016-02-18 09:36:15] pokecrypt : 2:23
[2016-02-18 09:36:54] TInvest : i'm not familiar with Pokercrypte 2:23 - And lo the people did come unto the trading floor?
[2016-02-18 09:38:01] pokecrypt : we are all satoshi
[2016-02-18 09:38:18] TInvest : and unto satoshi we shall return
[2016-02-18 09:38:48] laisee : would the real satoshi nakamoto pls stand up.
[2016-02-18 09:38:50] justinlooking : whatever happened to angry-rapidtrades, he could make 20 incorrect calls in a row without breaking sweat
[2016-02-18 09:39:09] TInvest : justintrolling
[2016-02-18 09:39:57] laisee : the old rapid was a high quality counter indicator.
[2016-02-18 09:40:03] justinlooking : the best
[2016-02-18 10:01:47] TInvest : and thats me for the day
[2016-02-18 10:01:49] TInvest : the trading of the beast
[2016-02-18 10:01:54] TInvest : bye yall
[2016-02-18 10:07:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 2 @ 423.05 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-18 10:09:11] justinlooking : bye TInvest
[2016-02-18 10:10:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 15 @ 424.32
[2016-02-18 10:27:54] TInvest : dang, is it possible to cancela pending withdrawal request in order to change the destination wallet
[2016-02-18 10:28:20] TInvest : um excuse my stupid
[2016-02-18 10:28:37] TInvest : i had not co
[2016-02-18 10:31:02] elmorte : ...nfirmed?
[2016-02-18 10:32:10] elmorte : Is it common knowledge whose bot trades in 6k contract orders?
[2016-02-18 10:37:42] rapidtrades : i think its Jo
[2016-02-18 10:38:14] elmorte : Jo? Haven't had the pleasure
[2016-02-18 10:38:30] rapidtrades : yeah Jo Mama
[2016-02-18 10:38:44] elmorte : Jo Mama who?
[2016-02-18 10:38:59] elmorte : Wait did I ruin it?
[2016-02-18 10:39:06] elmorte : Can we start again?
[2016-02-18 10:39:27] rapidtrades : no, you were 1 step too late....RUINED
[2016-02-18 10:39:34] elmorte : Waiiit
[2016-02-18 10:39:40] elmorte : knock knock
[2016-02-18 10:40:26] rapidtrades : You've reached Jo Mama residence...how may i help you?
[2016-02-18 10:41:35] elmorte : knock knock
[2016-02-18 10:42:19] rapidtrades : Jo Mama is not in right now, can i please take a message?
[2016-02-18 10:43:09] elmorte : I'll wait. .. ...
[2016-02-18 10:44:32] thehawthorne : TELL HIM: IF THE CAT WAS A HORSE, IT WOULD RUN UP THE TREE
[2016-02-18 10:46:22] elmorte : In that tone?
[2016-02-18 10:46:33] elmorte : Ok...I'll leave a msg
[2016-02-18 10:50:29] elmorte : knock knock
[2016-02-18 10:53:11] zanza : wow $33 oil ?
[2016-02-18 10:53:17] zanza : might have to short it again
[2016-02-18 10:53:17] elmorte : If I start playing with the API...can I do it from my Win machine or should I SSH into my android phone or something?
[2016-02-18 10:53:44] elmorte : Dual boot would take a lot longer
[2016-02-18 10:54:16] habibi : dual boot? i run my bot on comadore, one thing is good about it, it always win!
[2016-02-18 10:54:27] elmorte : comodore 64?
[2016-02-18 10:55:12] elmorte : No, that's my cold wallet
[2016-02-18 10:55:25] elmorte : In a faraday cage
[2016-02-18 10:57:26] elmorte : Would powershell do for interacting via API?
[2016-02-18 10:57:39] habibi : are u another wealthy muslim ?
[2016-02-18 10:58:02] rapidtrades : $4 premium on okc futures expiring in 8 days...that's a lot
[2016-02-18 10:58:57] elmorte : I'm a pakistani moneychanger, what you think habibi?
[2016-02-18 10:59:37] elmorte : I drink sparkling grape juice from the bottle
[2016-02-18 10:59:46] elmorte : from. the. bottle.
[2016-02-18 10:59:58] rapidtrades : nvm forgot to adjust for okc exchange rate...not nearly as high now
[2016-02-18 11:00:09] elmorte : Aight raptra
[2016-02-18 11:01:02] rapidtrades : that name is cursed...you now have Zika
[2016-02-18 11:01:07] rapidtrades : congratulations
[2016-02-18 11:01:11] elmorte : Tag, you're it
[2016-02-18 11:01:23] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-17/islamic-rape-europe-polish-magazines-shocking-cover
[2016-02-18 11:01:32] elmorte : My religion is prohibits Zika
[2016-02-18 11:01:52] habibi : so shoooocking. and raping woman is not that shoocking
[2016-02-18 11:02:44] elmorte : zanza: didn't those women come forward later to say it was BS
[2016-02-18 11:02:47] rapidtrades : yeah that cover is ridiculous...
[2016-02-18 11:03:26] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-17/venezuela-devalues-currency-37-maduro-announces-62-fold-increase-gasoline-prices
[2016-02-18 11:03:35] elmorte : The lighting is all wrong
[2016-02-18 11:05:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.00966
[2016-02-18 11:08:12] habibi : political corectness is shocking. anyway still long?
[2016-02-18 11:09:48] rapidtrades : anyone knows when is the next okc exchange rate adjusted? i lsot track
[2016-02-18 11:32:22] tscha : what happened 10:10 UTC at finex? fatfinger?
[2016-02-18 11:32:26] spammy : No one girl said it was bullshit.
[2016-02-18 11:32:31] tscha : morning btw
[2016-02-18 11:32:39] spammy : But the rest are still ongoing.
[2016-02-18 11:35:19] habibi : same what happened yesterday twice
[2016-02-18 11:35:43] habibi : ~2k market buys
[2016-02-18 11:41:11] partyman : what is the price of an a50 contract?
[2016-02-18 11:41:28] rapidtrades : 1 mirrion dullards
[2016-02-18 11:41:46] partyman : also what is china a50 ticker on tradingview i cannot find it
[2016-02-18 11:41:46] habibi : price is sth that reflects how much money people would give for
[2016-02-18 11:42:54] elmorte : habibi: That's what they want you to think
[2016-02-18 12:23:02] j8 : rapidtrades: it adjusts after every settlement if the adjustment is more than 0.1%
[2016-02-18 12:24:38] BitMEX_Arthur : partyman: There is no trading view ticker yet
[2016-02-18 12:25:00] BitMEX_Arthur : partyman: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/A50G16
[2016-02-18 12:25:06] BitMEX_Arthur : There you can see the live orderbook
[2016-02-18 12:52:43] rapidtrades : j8: u sure it's not every 2 weeks?
[2016-02-18 12:55:50] j8 : rapidtrades: yeah pretty sure
[2016-02-18 12:57:02] rapidtrades : ok smone here said 2 weeks...sleger prolly
[2016-02-18 12:57:28] rapidtrades : new highs on okc
[2016-02-18 12:58:55] tscha : woheeeeee
[2016-02-18 13:00:51] rapidtrades : tscha: u joined in?
[2016-02-18 13:01:34] tscha : rapidtrades: very small long, so no big deal
[2016-02-18 13:01:58] rapidtrades : dam everyone so cautious...guess we have more room to go
[2016-02-18 13:02:10] rapidtrades : $445 today?
[2016-02-18 13:02:20] thehawthorne : rapidtrades: positive
[2016-02-18 13:02:28] habibi : this ride will end with fomo spike
[2016-02-18 13:02:31] habibi : so no worries so far
[2016-02-18 13:05:03] habibi : and these 2k buys on finex makes me thing we have much more room to go up as well
[2016-02-18 13:05:18] habibi : anyway good position rapid
[2016-02-18 13:07:11] rapidtrades : we'll see, it's a trade on daily chart...it could still end in a loss if we crash :)
[2016-02-18 13:07:27] habibi : whats ur average?
[2016-02-18 13:07:45] j8 : rapidtrades: hard to find info on that site, finally found it.. it updates every week if the adjustment is more than 0.2%, and it adjusts to the 2-week average
[2016-02-18 13:07:46] rapidtrades : most at $400, rest near $405/406
[2016-02-18 13:07:51] sleger : last time you were still short
[2016-02-18 13:09:38] sleger : j8: yes its on 2 week average
[2016-02-18 13:09:46] rapidtrades : j8: ok thanks
[2016-02-18 13:12:37] j8 : they really mess things up by trying to smooth it out
[2016-02-18 13:18:50] rapidtrades : noooo finex u dirty ho
[2016-02-18 13:24:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 537 @ 421.99
[2016-02-18 13:25:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 50 @ 421.57
[2016-02-18 13:25:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 40 @ 421.06
[2016-02-18 13:52:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 254 @ 419.59
[2016-02-18 13:54:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 120 @ 419.15
[2016-02-18 14:09:39] rapidtrades : wasn't that bad
[2016-02-18 14:11:56] djuan : good time to buy the dip no?
[2016-02-18 14:12:21] thehawthorne : was at 418
[2016-02-18 14:12:29] djuan : 417 i think
[2016-02-18 14:12:47] djuan : hope we can break through 425
[2016-02-18 14:12:55] thehawthorne : yes we can
[2016-02-18 14:13:02] thehawthorne : you just need to buy
[2016-02-18 14:13:05] thehawthorne : not sell
[2016-02-18 14:13:07] thehawthorne : HEHE
[2016-02-18 14:13:23] djuan : ha ha. yeah ill buy with 38k btc
[2016-02-18 14:13:26] rapidtrades : I can't buy shit, already filled my position
[2016-02-18 14:13:44] rapidtrades : just hodling now
[2016-02-18 14:14:19] djuan : hold baby. it will all work out in the end
[2016-02-18 14:14:25] thehawthorne : thats why no more big upwards momentum, seems like many ppl already gave their money and cannot get in more. foo when we reach 430 imho
[2016-02-18 14:14:34] thehawthorne : fomo
[2016-02-18 14:16:05] djuan : fine long vs short 64.8%/35.2%
[2016-02-18 14:16:12] djuan : finex
[2016-02-18 14:16:45] j8 : meaningless
[2016-02-18 14:17:23] rapidtrades : idk...most here seem very cautious...also metrics from whalecalls are not at extreme levels
[2016-02-18 14:18:04] rapidtrades : during that fomo rally to 500 we had over 90% most days
[2016-02-18 14:18:47] laisee : sentiment in these markets trails the FOMO.
[2016-02-18 14:19:08] rapidtrades : that's prolly true for most markets :)
[2016-02-18 14:20:03] laisee : rapidtrades: not bigger, more mature ones outside of crypto-world.
[2016-02-18 14:20:11] rapidtrades : oh yes
[2016-02-18 14:20:14] j8 : if you're looking at the gauges on bfxdata, just don't
[2016-02-18 14:21:06] rapidtrades : I'll look at what I want b1tch
[2016-02-18 14:21:34] j8 : they don't tell you anything useful. if i reborrow my long for a better rate, it goes up
[2016-02-18 14:22:02] laisee : what j8 says
[2016-02-18 14:22:11] habibi : what laisee says
[2016-02-18 14:22:22] rapidtrades : they tell u when positioning is at extreme levels
[2016-02-18 14:22:32] rapidtrades : we're not there yet
[2016-02-18 14:22:35] habibi : or just borrowing
[2016-02-18 14:22:49] djuan : what habit says
[2016-02-18 14:22:53] j8 : look at change intotal open, not recently opened
[2016-02-18 14:23:01] j8 : **in total
[2016-02-18 14:23:08] habibi : yep, what j8 says
[2016-02-18 14:23:18] rapidtrades : what djuan says
[2016-02-18 14:48:24] 00Smurf : I know there was talk of custom margin on xbt? What is the timeline on that?
[2016-02-18 14:49:03] 00Smurf : Also is it ever going to be possible to have both a short and a long at the same time
[2016-02-18 14:49:25] gouda : Good question 00Smurf
[2016-02-18 14:49:50] redgold : who let these guys in here
[2016-02-18 14:50:07] habibi : and u are ?
[2016-02-18 14:50:08] habibi : :D
[2016-02-18 14:50:10] tscha : 00Smurf: yeah, just make two accounts, and go long on one and short on the other one... then you are fully hedged #riskmanagement
[2016-02-18 14:50:16] BitMEX_Wally : Being long and short at the same time is pointless
[2016-02-18 14:50:31] BitMEX_Wally : you just pay more fees and have more risk of liquidation
[2016-02-18 14:50:50] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: more commission mutha%$*@% :p
[2016-02-18 14:51:24] BitMEX_Wally : The PNL of x long and y short is the same a net position of x-y
[2016-02-18 14:51:30] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: not pointless if you're running multiple strategies, some long-term some short-term
[2016-02-18 14:51:36] BitMEX_Sam : 00Smurf: Custom leverage is actually coming today
[2016-02-18 14:51:42] BitMEX_Wally : Yes it is pointless
[2016-02-18 14:51:49] habibi : long term on dailys :D
[2016-02-18 14:51:55] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: you're comments are pointless
[2016-02-18 14:52:05] BitMEX_Wally : Just increase or reduce your position
[2016-02-18 14:52:28] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: actually it is not pointless
[2016-02-18 14:52:28] j8 : maybe not pointless in very high volatility.. apparently some people take big positions on both sides and let one get liquidated
[2016-02-18 14:52:37] rapidtrades : it's just more complicated to manage @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-02-18 14:52:55] sleger : imagine a jump of 50 points on leveraged long and short on separate accounts/isolated margin
[2016-02-18 14:55:54] rapidtrades : also shouldn't the system recognize that positions are netting each other out? why increased margin?
[2016-02-18 14:55:59] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: Sorry again for not giving feedback earlier. You read what I wrote last night?
[2016-02-18 14:56:00] sleger : rapidtrades has to be american :" you're comments are pointless", only americans dont know the difference between your and you're
[2016-02-18 14:56:28] rapidtrades : sleger: shut up muslim
[2016-02-18 14:56:46] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: Yep - read them
[2016-02-18 14:56:59] sleger : so they're there or their ? @rapidtrades
[2016-02-18 14:57:00] BitMEX_Sam : I agree re: swapping items, that'll come at some point in the next few mo
[2016-02-18 14:57:14] BitMEX_Sam : As for the lev indicator, I'm interested in whether or not you've gotten used to it - I'm thinking of adding simple text labels instead
[2016-02-18 14:57:43] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: why not just move that to account settings tab instead?
[2016-02-18 14:57:54] habibi : who would change leverage on every second position
[2016-02-18 14:58:05] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Lots of people, we see people doing manual adjustments all the time
[2016-02-18 14:58:17] BitMEX_Sam : Additionally it's useful to see at a glance so you know where your position stands
[2016-02-18 14:59:33] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: i have a feeling a lot of people aren't gonna realize it changes leverage for your existing position, since it's in the order controls
[2016-02-18 15:00:06] BitMEX_Sam : It's below a giant label that says "Your Position"
[2016-02-18 15:00:44] j8 : thats true
[2016-02-18 15:01:01] tscha : Yeah, visually seeing when you get liquidated is definitely nice, especially for new users. But for people who don't need leverage setting+information at all (because they are cross-leveraged), there should be an option to hide it. It's just a too flashy item considering the fact that for some traders, it has no purpose.
[2016-02-18 15:01:42] tscha : it's not only flashy, but also distracting because it changes all the time
[2016-02-18 15:01:44] BitMEX_Sam : There is an option to hide it, those labels are clickable
[2016-02-18 15:01:58] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: but then the whole position is gone isn't it?
[2016-02-18 15:02:10] BitMEX_Sam : Still available in your positions list as usual
[2016-02-18 15:04:03] tscha : okay, gotta scroll down for that
[2016-02-18 15:04:27] tscha : maybe I'll just get used to that thing moving all the time
[2016-02-18 15:04:46] BitMEX_Sam : It doesn't move that violently if you're not adjusting it
[2016-02-18 15:05:19] 00Smurf : as far as being able to have a long and short at the same time. I find it useful for while i'm building a nice long, and ther eis a spike, rather then sell my long on spike and open a short. just to open my long back up at a higher price on the retrace is not worth it. being able to open a fresh short to play the spike, while not affecting the netry price of my long is very useful
[2016-02-18 15:05:26] 00Smurf : if that makes sense
[2016-02-18 15:05:37] habibi : i am not sure people will like this changes, but lets be patient. anyway u should aim better to sth what okc futures full screen trading has then this magical colors from ponny world :p
[2016-02-18 15:06:08] habibi : these * :D
[2016-02-18 15:06:16] BitMEX_Sam : ? It's a gradient using the same exact green & red that are used all over the UI
[2016-02-18 15:06:38] tscha : Is the 1px green border around the leverage bar intentional?
[2016-02-18 15:06:45] laisee : trading on LED?
[2016-02-18 15:06:46] habibi : i know, just saying :p
[2016-02-18 15:06:54] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: Yeah, but I think I'm going to tone it down
[2016-02-18 15:07:18] habibi : and please dont increase fees on our accounts for too much criticism :D
[2016-02-18 15:07:36] BitMEX_Sam : Hah
[2016-02-18 15:08:53] tscha : I guess the best feedback comes after 1-2 weeks of active trading
[2016-02-18 15:09:21] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. I would like to get the new styles in so I can start working on Trailing Stops, OCO, Order Amends, etc
[2016-02-18 15:10:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 200 @ 421.23
[2016-02-18 15:10:37] j8 : oh and.. are market orders really the default now? :)
[2016-02-18 15:10:39] 00Smurf : i do like the site alot though, great job so far
[2016-02-18 15:11:29] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Yes, but the UI remembers what you select
[2016-02-18 15:11:41] BitMEX_Sam : So once you select Limit, next time you go to the site it'll be set to Limit
[2016-02-18 15:12:20] j8 : if someone is new to the site, the first thing they do is enter 100x with a market order... not a great experience
[2016-02-18 15:12:38] habibi : market order by default?
[2016-02-18 15:13:09] habibi : with 100x :D
[2016-02-18 15:13:27] tscha : Not sure what the default for Leverage and Order Type is, but new users should have default maybe Limit + 25x or something
[2016-02-18 15:14:23] habibi : its like same chances to survive like being hot blond girl and went to muslim hood in berlin
[2016-02-18 15:14:51] mrp1nk : nah
[2016-02-18 15:15:05] habibi : there are some chances, but at the end u will be raped
[2016-02-18 15:15:20] mrp1nk : here? ofc
[2016-02-18 15:15:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.01067
[2016-02-18 15:19:21] laisee : trading on LED?
[2016-02-18 15:20:10] tscha : Classic block #3 mined
[2016-02-18 15:20:26] mrp1nk : sauce?
[2016-02-18 15:20:50] tscha : https://blockchain.info/block-index/1070570/000000000000000003c44b5606c8fe695a24c6c1b87bd438d86c7d418025e9f0
[2016-02-18 15:21:13] habibi : i see clasic blocks containts even more transaction
[2016-02-18 15:22:04] zanza : ban cash = bitcoin 500
[2016-02-18 15:22:27] habibi : ban zanza= no more 7 contrat liquidations
[2016-02-18 15:23:50] mrp1nk : habibi: thx!
[2016-02-18 15:23:56] laisee : tscha: classic node count growing. real or fake.
[2016-02-18 15:24:27] tscha : laisee: looking at the lastest increase, probably fake
[2016-02-18 15:25:09] tscha : Although https://coin.dance/nodes lists them too, and they don't double-count nodes from same ip (like xtnodes does).. so not sure
[2016-02-18 15:25:24] laisee : possibly, though core nodes are being faked also, then.
[2016-02-18 15:25:49] habibi : u guys pay too much attention to nodes and so
[2016-02-18 15:25:54] laisee : blocks don't lie, ofc
[2016-02-18 15:25:59] habibi : no matter there will be 100 or 2000 nodes
[2016-02-18 15:26:14] tscha : laisee: yeah, but they got filtered because they were from same IP... these nodes didn't, but maybe mass cloud-instances
[2016-02-18 15:26:20] habibi : what matters are chinese miners and its pools that will use all classic or core nodes
[2016-02-18 15:26:27] tscha : Yeah, we don't need any more nodes tbh
[2016-02-18 15:27:25] laisee : tscha: I have 2 bitcoind running on one IP. So it's subjective whether thats 1 or 2 nodes.
[2016-02-18 15:27:44] tscha : laisee: coin.dance will count it as 1 node, xtnodes as 2
[2016-02-18 15:28:12] tscha : BTW, the rapid increase in Classic nodes is due to "Classic Cloud": http://imgur.com/HDueiMX
[2016-02-18 15:28:20] laisee : yup.
[2016-02-18 15:30:25] laisee : tscha: wonder if thats a scam?
[2016-02-18 15:30:56] tscha : No clue, but the nodes are definitely running. Pretty pointless imho but whatever
[2016-02-18 15:34:46] laisee : blocks don't lie, lets see if all these nodes are mining or fake.
[2016-02-18 15:36:56] tscha : they are definitely not mining, just casual full nodes in the cloud.
[2016-02-18 15:39:52] laisee : hmmm. not much good except keeping score between Core and Classic.
[2016-02-18 15:42:33] habibi : nodes are definitely not mining
[2016-02-18 15:43:05] j8 : and miners are not necessarily nodes, right
[2016-02-18 15:43:42] laisee : j8: defintely miners don't need to run many nodes.
[2016-02-18 15:44:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6000 @ 418.58
[2016-02-18 15:44:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 418.68
[2016-02-18 15:44:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 40 @ 418.07
[2016-02-18 15:44:29] sleger : is the price crashing because rapid just went long ?
[2016-02-18 15:44:59] laisee : sleger: yes, Bitcoin is very sensitive market re trader sentiment.
[2016-02-18 15:47:40] laisee : and cursing Bitfinex is not helping market sentiment either.
[2016-02-18 15:58:23] sleger : chatting in uppercase also upsets the bitcoin gods
[2016-02-18 16:04:57] ayy lmao : lol
[2016-02-18 16:05:58] laisee : VERILY SO
[2016-02-18 16:08:44] podizzle3k : yes your boy sold the last 4000 contracts at $425 on 7d
[2016-02-18 16:08:57] podizzle3k : /brag
[2016-02-18 17:44:23] rapidtrades : so that okc/finex gap will never close huh
[2016-02-18 17:48:38] rapidtrades : ''f**k me martin so i can convert you to marxism''
[2016-02-18 17:54:12] djuan : yeah sharing is for caring
[2016-02-18 18:10:51] Swedishnut : anyone else using 1Broker? They have a lounge/chat board and there was a positive review for BitMEX.
[2016-02-18 18:11:09] rapidtrades : no it's shit
[2016-02-18 18:11:46] Swedishnut : what do you recommend?
[2016-02-18 18:13:29] rapidtrades : for forex?
[2016-02-18 18:13:33] Swedishnut : I like they pay out in BTC for positions. I did have an issue the other day though on a long gold position that froze at 1245 as the spike happened and I couldn't do anything until the price came down which was fishy
[2016-02-18 18:14:20] Swedishnut : I like commodities, and index swing trading
[2016-02-18 18:15:00] rapidtrades : ah not idea then...you'll prolly be better off with us futures then cfds...but I haven't done the math on that
[2016-02-18 18:16:04] rapidtrades : I see they charge rollover fees on both long/shorts so factor that in as well
[2016-02-18 18:17:29] rapidtrades : zanza: u here?
[2016-02-18 18:31:20] sleger : here or hear ?
[2016-02-18 18:34:25] thehawthorne : hee yaa
[2016-02-18 18:36:56] djuan : ? is the market done toying with my emotions? can i relax now?
[2016-02-18 18:37:30] j8 : Swedishnut: i had the same thing happen the one time i traded there.. market froze and i couldn't close in profit. you're totally at their mercy, they can quote whatever they want or stop quoting and blame it on their data providers
[2016-02-18 18:38:31] djuan : del boy tactics
[2016-02-18 18:38:54] j8 : although a lot of people seem to have a good enough experience with them.
[2016-02-18 18:55:48] podizzler3k : im pretty happy with 1broker
[2016-02-18 18:56:30] podizzler3k : the fees are rough indeed but if you do 1 day trades on earning reports like i do its not a factor