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[2016-02-15 17:57:07] tradedesk : for spot price, not for price perdiction (imo) they are gamblers
[2016-02-15 17:57:10] sleger : yes but the "premium" vs finex is not constant because of many reasons, but the main one being that finex is not the index
[2016-02-15 18:00:46] tradedesk : so what does bfx tell you? dump now or continue up?
[2016-02-15 18:01:29] mrp1nk : the direction of the futures
[2016-02-15 18:01:29] tradedesk : i remember that most bfx traders follow okc, so shouldn't we look at that exchange?
[2016-02-15 18:01:39] mrp1nk : i look at that too
[2016-02-15 18:02:21] mrp1nk : (CNY index to be precise)
[2016-02-15 18:03:20] j8 : die
[2016-02-15 18:03:23] j8 : lol
[2016-02-15 18:03:29] j8 : i did not mean to type that
[2016-02-15 18:03:44] mrp1nk : @tradedesk: mainly the TA
[2016-02-15 18:05:55] tradedesk : TA is great for validating trend reversal. i use RSI a lot on spot and the 20x's
[2016-02-15 18:11:18] mrp1nk : i fully agree
[2016-02-15 18:15:38] rapidtrades : so $2.64 discount
[2016-02-15 18:15:42] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-02-15 18:15:45] rapidtrades : for real
[2016-02-15 18:16:07] mrp1nk : bot bearish
[2016-02-15 18:16:07] tradedesk : @rapidtrades useless can't short it, can't long it
[2016-02-15 18:16:40] mrp1nk : ore someone building up a huge short position
[2016-02-15 18:17:54] habibi : liquidity provider :)
[2016-02-15 18:18:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 70 @ 0.01257
[2016-02-15 18:20:36] Tulip_stefan : hahahaha TA.
[2016-02-15 18:20:46] rapidtrades : shut up stefan
[2016-02-15 18:22:43] Tulip_stefan : its just that, i haven't seen any actual evidence that TA works better than a dice roll.
[2016-02-15 18:22:50] Tulip_stefan : if i would i would have automated it already.
[2016-02-15 18:23:27] rapidtrades : doesn't ur bot follow prior price action? highs lows
[2016-02-15 18:23:28] mrp1nk : are you talking about bitcoin or in general?
[2016-02-15 18:23:45] Tulip_stefan : in general, mostly.
[2016-02-15 18:24:26] Tulip_stefan : part of the problem is that TA is notoriously hard to backtest.
[2016-02-15 18:24:56] tradedesk : Tulip_stefan: talking about spot, not 100x's
[2016-02-15 18:25:31] tradedesk : most wicks go to MA45 on the 5-30 min charts (easy money)
[2016-02-15 18:26:00] Tulip_stefan : yeah. As for 100x, that's what i call arbitrage not TA.
[2016-02-15 18:26:43] tradedesk : i don't get how to do arbitrage, isn't that buying cheap on exchange 1, sell expensive on exchange 2?
[2016-02-15 18:26:56] rapidtrades : got it
[2016-02-15 18:27:07] micmix : BitMEX_Wally, BitMEX_Sam: have no idea why the bot was sending DELETE with empty orderIDs. it could have happen _only_ if BitMEX didn't return orderID from the POST order call
[2016-02-15 18:27:34] podizzle3k : wow does that say 395 in recent trades
[2016-02-15 18:27:34] podizzle3k : wow
[2016-02-15 18:27:37] habibi : 395
[2016-02-15 18:27:45] habibi : yayks
[2016-02-15 18:27:56] tradedesk : someone got lucky
[2016-02-15 18:28:11] habibi : heh look now at 395 :D 115k to that lvl
[2016-02-15 18:28:36] habibi : lets make some record on open interest
[2016-02-15 18:29:11] Tulip_stefan : arbitrage is when you buy somewhere and sell somewhere else, with the expectation that the price delta between the 2 exchanges moves in your favor.
[2016-02-15 18:31:33] tradedesk : how do you do that with futures and forwards?
[2016-02-15 18:31:42] tradedesk : can't sell your 100x on bitfinex
[2016-02-15 18:31:49] rapidtrades : Tulip_stefan: doesn't ur bot take past price to predict future price
[2016-02-15 18:31:51] habibi : anyway looks to me like someone using market sell orders
[2016-02-15 18:32:39] rapidtrades : god bless his stupid soul @habibi
[2016-02-15 18:33:01] Tulip_stefan : rapidtrades: yeah it does. Obviously.
[2016-02-15 18:33:06] habibi : but he actually open more positions as open interest increasing all time
[2016-02-15 18:35:08] rapidtrades : Tulip_stefan: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/technicalanalysis.asp
[2016-02-15 18:56:15] laisee : Bitcoin Classic node count just hit 1001.
[2016-02-15 18:56:28] rapidtrades : noone cares
[2016-02-15 18:56:58] tradedesk : actual nodes or the spoofed version?
[2016-02-15 18:57:34] laisee : tradedesk: how could you tell?
[2016-02-15 18:58:00] tradedesk : you can't but most ppl do not know they exist :)
[2016-02-15 18:58:37] laisee : can connect and see what network services are supprted.
[2016-02-15 18:59:09] laisee : anyway, hashing power is what counts and thats still to come.
[2016-02-15 18:59:12] tradedesk : i tought PseudoNodes forward requests
[2016-02-15 19:03:33] messiaen8844 : Classic folks getting desparate
[2016-02-15 19:03:49] laisee : not sure what PseudoNodes do, but fakes nodes won't help when blocks needs to be mined to provoke a fork.
[2016-02-15 19:04:13] tradedesk : its a hard fork, only one node needed
[2016-02-15 19:04:14] habibi : its all about what nodes miners use
[2016-02-15 19:04:36] habibi : so fake nodes or not doesnt mean in case of fork
[2016-02-15 19:05:07] tradedesk : only for non-technical analysis and price speculation
[2016-02-15 19:11:24] laisee : who would speculate based on node count alone?
[2016-02-15 19:12:17] habibi : its crypto world
[2016-02-15 19:12:24] habibi : first u make impression that sth is really important
[2016-02-15 19:12:25] tradedesk : same ppl who speculate on the wildlife count (bears)
[2016-02-15 19:12:26] habibi : then u hype it
[2016-02-15 19:14:48] laisee : bulls or bears? still early to see who should make price go up or down.
[2016-02-15 19:16:30] tradedesk : laisee: i don't get you.. ever seen a bull make the price go down?
[2016-02-15 19:18:54] rapidtrades : bulls can't trade....they don't have any hands stupid
[2016-02-15 19:20:15] laisee : its not clear to me whether vore or classic winning will make price go up or down.
[2016-02-15 19:20:28] laisee : ^vore^core
[2016-02-15 19:20:45] rapidtrades : noone f cares...
[2016-02-15 19:21:08] laisee : rapidtrades: have you heard of Bitcoin?
[2016-02-15 19:21:13] tradedesk : indeed, we are just traders
[2016-02-15 19:21:14] rapidtrades : there is no need to lift the limit...we're nowhere near filled bloccks...it's all just drama
[2016-02-15 19:21:17] rapidtrades : WHO CARES
[2016-02-15 19:22:09] laisee : u don't seem very well informed for a trader of Bitcoin, your choice ofc.
[2016-02-15 19:22:29] rapidtrades : is what I said not true
[2016-02-15 19:22:41] tradedesk : laisee: long or short if classic goes live?
[2016-02-15 19:23:03] habibi : :D
[2016-02-15 19:23:09] habibi : hey again new guy
[2016-02-15 19:23:10] habibi : :D
[2016-02-15 19:23:12] laisee : keeping funds for a big rally, perhaps.
[2016-02-15 19:23:16] tscha : wtf
[2016-02-15 19:23:17] tradedesk : yea!!! nice
[2016-02-15 19:23:22] sleger : wow nice
[2016-02-15 19:23:38] laisee : someone likes to play ... ;-)
[2016-02-15 19:23:59] tscha : damnit, again failed to profit
[2016-02-15 19:24:05] mrp1nk : got 34 contracts lol
[2016-02-15 19:24:10] rapidtrades : great I got filled at 399.12
[2016-02-15 19:24:15] rapidtrades : F THIS GUY
[2016-02-15 19:24:20] tscha : hahaha
[2016-02-15 19:24:25] habibi : i got one more order
[2016-02-15 19:24:26] habibi : at 391
[2016-02-15 19:24:31] habibi : but stopped at 392 :p
[2016-02-15 19:25:41] sleger : seems more like an algo did something dumb
[2016-02-15 19:25:44] tscha : is mark price 24H off?
[2016-02-15 19:26:01] rapidtrades : looks like it
[2016-02-15 19:26:34] laisee : an algo that can't do math right?
[2016-02-15 19:26:49] sleger : coded by someone who cant
[2016-02-15 19:27:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 398.74 :punch: :whale:
[2016-02-15 19:27:37] mrp1nk : never go full retard
[2016-02-15 19:27:47] rapidtrades : we seem to be leading the market
[2016-02-15 19:28:11] laisee : that can't be right. bitmex > market.
[2016-02-15 19:28:19] habibi : :D
[2016-02-15 19:28:24] rapidtrades : it can't be but it do
[2016-02-15 19:28:28] habibi : its not
[2016-02-15 19:29:00] habibi : there was a wick on that minute down when that dump here happen@ china like 2 yuans
[2016-02-15 19:29:13] rapidtrades : 2 yuans is 0.3 usd
[2016-02-15 19:29:19] habibi : according to that if we drop 20 yuans we will get like 50 dollars discout here :D
[2016-02-15 19:29:43] rapidtrades : do u guys see a weird flickering of the orderbook
[2016-02-15 19:29:52] DareDevil : yup
[2016-02-15 19:29:53] tradedesk : you trade to rapid
[2016-02-15 19:30:02] rapidtrades : like it goes flash everythins's gone then it comes back up
[2016-02-15 19:30:12] laisee : stop hitting refresh every 1/10 second
[2016-02-15 19:30:16] tradedesk : yeah that is the bot
[2016-02-15 19:30:24] rapidtrades : DareDevil: he sees it too
[2016-02-15 19:30:28] tradedesk : no idea why if he is not going to move the main exchanges
[2016-02-15 19:30:47] habibi : if he could use there 100x maybe he would
[2016-02-15 19:30:47] habibi : :D
[2016-02-15 19:30:53] rapidtrades : tradedesk: he seems to be moving them....here we crashed then finex followed 1 min later
[2016-02-15 19:31:07] rapidtrades : dropped only $1 tho
[2016-02-15 19:31:14] tradedesk : i saw, but bear(pun intended)ly moved it
[2016-02-15 19:31:14] habibi : rapidtrades: finex just follwed china imo
[2016-02-15 19:31:26] rapidtrades : well finex dropped $1.5
[2016-02-15 19:31:36] rapidtrades : then okc usd followed finex
[2016-02-15 19:31:40] sleger : could be just people who bought here and hedged
[2016-02-15 19:31:43] sleger : like me...
[2016-02-15 19:31:48] rapidtrades : me too :)
[2016-02-15 19:32:01] rapidtrades : I used limits tho...so didn't cause the selling
[2016-02-15 19:32:13] rapidtrades : sleger: so that drop was u...f*cker
[2016-02-15 19:32:27] sleger : your size wouldnt move finex by 0.01 anyway ;)
[2016-02-15 19:32:35] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-02-15 19:32:57] rapidtrades : i trade much larger size in my arbs...cause they're somewhat safe
[2016-02-15 19:33:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2500 @ 396.68
[2016-02-15 19:34:02] tradedesk : took profit, now i am out.
[2016-02-15 19:34:16] rapidtrades : profit on what
[2016-02-15 19:34:21] tradedesk : x100
[2016-02-15 19:34:30] rapidtrades : ?
[2016-02-15 19:34:45] tradedesk : ? + ?
[2016-02-15 19:34:48] habibi : probally profit from 395 to 396
[2016-02-15 19:35:30] mrp1nk : extreme weird today
[2016-02-15 19:35:32] tradedesk : shorted, but yeah only 6 usd
[2016-02-15 19:35:48] rapidtrades : u shorted at a discount....
[2016-02-15 19:36:17] tradedesk : after the second dump to 395
[2016-02-15 19:36:57] habibi : i am wondering if its all time the same guy
[2016-02-15 19:37:09] tradedesk : guess so
[2016-02-15 19:37:18] rapidtrades : well they're at least two...this guy @tradedesk and new guy
[2016-02-15 19:37:21] habibi : like its same type of opening positions as we got that huge liqs at 250k contracts, and pretty same as yesterday
[2016-02-15 19:37:54] rapidtrades : could he be hedhing here? and doesn't care about price
[2016-02-15 19:38:18] rapidtrades : what is he doing...
[2016-02-15 19:38:27] tradedesk : hedging for what? something going to happen in < 16h
[2016-02-15 19:40:03] habibi : btw does anyone noticed if the order at lowest price got filled in total or left sth?
[2016-02-15 19:40:35] Tulip_stefan : i don't get what you're trying to say
[2016-02-15 19:40:56] tradedesk : you think it is not a bot but a person reading everything we say about his moves?
[2016-02-15 19:41:37] rapidtrades : new guy if ur reading this sell 42 contracts into that 5k bid
[2016-02-15 19:41:40] laisee : or a bot that reads the chat?
[2016-02-15 19:41:56] tradedesk : idibot?
[2016-02-15 19:41:56] sleger : lol no
[2016-02-15 19:42:14] rapidtrades : 52? i said 42...
[2016-02-15 19:42:22] laisee : robots are here now to take all your trading jobs
[2016-02-15 19:42:23] mrp1nk : LOL
[2016-02-15 19:42:29] DareDevil : ok, I'll stop ;) j/k :P
[2016-02-15 19:42:29] rapidtrades : there he is
[2016-02-15 19:42:43] DareDevil : lol
[2016-02-15 19:43:33] laisee : maybe a bot with feelings, try insulting it.
[2016-02-15 19:43:46] tradedesk : 1101011001000 !!
[2016-02-15 19:44:04] tradedesk : nope...
[2016-02-15 19:44:05] justinlooking : ur muma was a snowblower
[2016-02-15 19:44:21] habibi : Tulip_stefan: i was just wondering if its a bot or real guy clicking on the orderbook and dumping after
[2016-02-15 19:44:52] laisee : >> ur a stupid bot written in php
[2016-02-15 19:44:58] sleger : habibi: clicking on orderbook does not adjust size so it would nt work anyway
[2016-02-15 19:45:13] habibi : sleger: try
[2016-02-15 19:45:35] sleger : yep doesnt work if you do it deep enough like th eexample youre talking about
[2016-02-15 19:45:57] habibi : put grouping to 1.00 and click on total at 392, works for me
[2016-02-15 19:46:05] sleger : ok so it depends where you click
[2016-02-15 19:46:28] sleger : if you click on price or size or total it works differently
[2016-02-15 19:46:38] habibi : yea right column
[2016-02-15 19:47:01] laisee : yup. rtfm for details.
[2016-02-15 19:47:12] sleger : ok then, but the guy would have to have done that and to answer your question i dont know but most likely there was more than 54 at 392
[2016-02-15 19:47:38] justinlooking : habibi, u can see playback from recent trades ?
[2016-02-15 19:48:01] habibi : so just a market sale with some desired qty
[2016-02-15 19:48:12] BitMEX_Sam : Wasn't a Market, although the API now supports that
[2016-02-15 19:48:33] BitMEX_Sam : Won't say more about it but that was an interesting dump.
[2016-02-15 19:48:39] mrp1nk : @BitMEX_Sam: Was this a bot'?
[2016-02-15 19:49:05] laisee : fat-fingered bt?
[2016-02-15 19:49:27] BitMEX_Sam : We don't give up specifics of order data unless the user(s) involved okay it.
[2016-02-15 19:49:35] justinlooking : is order change rolled out on live yet?
[2016-02-15 19:49:44] habibi : i am okay with it Sam
[2016-02-15 19:49:48] habibi : go on, tell more :p
[2016-02-15 19:50:08] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Yes
[2016-02-15 19:50:17] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: ok, i understand. another thing is this totally weird negative premium. any explanation?
[2016-02-15 19:50:29] habibi : mrp1nk: lel...
[2016-02-15 19:50:34] BitMEX_Sam : mrp1nk: Couldn't tell you - we just run the market, we aren't responsible for its sentiment
[2016-02-15 19:50:42] tradedesk : mrp1nk: ask and bid
[2016-02-15 19:50:53] BitMEX_Sam : Apparently someone thinks a dump is incoming.
[2016-02-15 19:51:01] laisee : count(sellers) > count(buyers)
[2016-02-15 19:51:10] tradedesk : laisee: almost
[2016-02-15 19:51:30] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: See https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiChangelog
[2016-02-15 19:51:41] tradedesk : you can have 1000 sellers and one buyer and still go up :)
[2016-02-15 19:51:54] BitMEX_Sam : #pedantic
[2016-02-15 19:52:09] laisee : tradedesk: cool. math is amazing.
[2016-02-15 19:52:52] laisee : ;-)
[2016-02-15 19:53:00] habibi : new guy
[2016-02-15 19:53:03] habibi : one more dump to 381
[2016-02-15 19:53:05] habibi : 391*
[2016-02-15 19:53:11] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: thx!
[2016-02-15 19:53:12] justinlooking : haha 381 381
[2016-02-15 19:53:16] BitMEX_Sam : Hahaha, earning the Trollbox name.
[2016-02-15 19:53:17] habibi : and i tip u 1 bear
[2016-02-15 19:53:23] laisee : habibi: be more ambitious.
[2016-02-15 19:53:32] tradedesk : dump to 99?
[2016-02-15 19:53:42] habibi : bear as an animal ofc!
[2016-02-15 19:54:34] tradedesk : 50x 's still above index
[2016-02-15 19:54:41] tradedesk : for anyone interested
[2016-02-15 19:54:41] laisee : I tink its cos classic node count > 1000 ... the end is nigh and satoshi is selling here.
[2016-02-15 19:55:09] laisee : BitMEX_Sam: does satoshi trade here?
[2016-02-15 19:55:13] podizzle3k : ofc
[2016-02-15 19:55:15] habibi : yep
[2016-02-15 19:55:18] habibi : he is our friend
[2016-02-15 19:55:23] BitMEX_Sam : laisee: Signs point to yes
[2016-02-15 19:55:35] justinlooking : sam is market-maker readme out of date? ie, should it work with live now?
[2016-02-15 19:55:35] podizzle3k : truth is satoshi dumped most of his holdings into archcoin last year so hes a bit desperate
[2016-02-15 19:55:35] tradedesk : hehehe
[2016-02-15 19:55:42] habibi : used to tip us few k btc when we explained him how blockchain works
[2016-02-15 19:55:46] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Ah yes. Thanks for the reminder
[2016-02-15 19:55:51] justinlooking : ty
[2016-02-15 19:56:04] podizzle3k : he sent me a pgp encrypted email talking about water teepees being the future of humanity
[2016-02-15 19:56:12] laisee : habibi: he stole the idea from Adam.
[2016-02-15 19:56:59] laisee : good publicity for Bitmex ... Bitcoin CEO sells ALL on Bitmex!!!
[2016-02-15 19:57:25] habibi : everyday again! :)
[2016-02-15 19:58:38] messiaen8844 : I see a posible retrace, can be deep as longs accumulated a lot in the 365-370 range.
[2016-02-15 19:58:58] messiaen8844 : H16 play here
[2016-02-15 20:00:47] messiaen8844 : Depends if 400 holds or not
[2016-02-15 20:01:43] messiaen8844 : Maybe satoshi trades here
[2016-02-15 20:02:00] messiaen8844 : Ops, meant Sitoshi
[2016-02-15 20:02:55] messiaen8844 : He needs 100x to get his friends money back
[2016-02-15 20:03:51] mrp1nk : LOL
[2016-02-15 20:04:39] laisee : start a fund to help Satoshi out, using DOGE ofc.
[2016-02-15 20:06:51] habibi : new guy u need to dump to prevent price goes up
[2016-02-15 20:10:45] mrp1nk : funniest night ever here
[2016-02-15 20:11:02] mrp1nk : comedy gold everywhere
[2016-02-15 20:29:42] justinlooking : 1st impression of new testnet UI. yay
[2016-02-15 20:29:45] justinlooking : !!
[2016-02-15 20:40:19] sleger : again
[2016-02-15 20:41:54] Tulip_stefan : i wish i had my bot running already :(
[2016-02-15 20:42:07] Tulip_stefan : bid size looks awfully empty.
[2016-02-15 20:43:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 14998 @ 400.33
[2016-02-15 20:46:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 669 @ 395.86
[2016-02-15 20:47:05] mrp1nk : again
[2016-02-15 20:47:18] habibi : nah now it was a dump
[2016-02-15 20:48:25] habibi : sleger: u put that 20k bids on the orderbook 4 times down to 371?
[2016-02-15 20:49:11] sleger : no im not a knife catcher for this kind of size
[2016-02-15 20:49:45] habibi : k
[2016-02-15 20:50:38] sleger : someone(s) selling a lot here
[2016-02-15 21:04:43] mrp1nk : so if this dumps is someone hedging, then bottom is not in
[2016-02-15 21:05:49] mrp1nk : assuming mr. whale
[2016-02-15 21:12:20] tscha : next 3 hours getting interesting
[2016-02-15 21:13:32] messiaen8844 : Lets see how 400 / 2720 reacts
[2016-02-15 21:24:04] justinlooking : REaKTs
[2016-02-15 21:24:33] aethlios : 48h contract will make the game more interesting...
[2016-02-15 21:47:24] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3000 @ 396.17
[2016-02-15 22:03:05] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 500 @ 397.88
[2016-02-15 22:45:31] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: are you there?
[2016-02-15 22:45:43] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Hey
[2016-02-15 22:46:09] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: hi! you guys introduced a breaking change in the API
[2016-02-15 22:46:31] BitMEX_Sam : Sounds like a bug, what are you seeing?
[2016-02-15 22:46:44] micmix : before the update DELETE for order that's already canceled/filled was returning order object with order status
[2016-02-15 22:47:15] micmix : now I just get error object with Not Found message
[2016-02-15 22:47:34] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Let me check that out
[2016-02-15 22:47:38] BitMEX_Sam : Sorry for any trouble that caused
[2016-02-15 22:47:53] micmix : yeah, broke my bot a bit :-)
[2016-02-15 22:48:03] BitMEX_Sam : Would explain some of the requests we saw
[2016-02-15 22:48:12] BitMEX_Sam : You should already have the ID in memory or use a clOrdID
[2016-02-15 22:48:48] habibi : Hey micmix any big position happen due to that?
[2016-02-15 22:49:00] micmix : also I can't try DELETE in API explorer, always gives me error orderID or clOrderID must be provided
[2016-02-15 22:49:14] micmix : habibi: no, it just stopped quoting
[2016-02-15 22:49:53] habibi : micmix: fine, asking coz we got some big shorter here
[2016-02-15 22:49:58] tscha : I think I have the same issue as micmix
[2016-02-15 22:50:51] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Yes, that's a bug in swagger-ui, working to get that fixed
[2016-02-15 22:51:47] micmix : habibi: my bot had short position @ $402 when it stopped quoting, so I was fine
[2016-02-15 22:55:40] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: empty orderID in cancel was caused by another change in the API: you guys stopped sending orderID in websocket order updates
[2016-02-15 22:56:07] micmix : only clOrdID is sent in order insert
[2016-02-15 22:57:01] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Are you sending a clOrdID?
[2016-02-15 22:57:20] micmix : yes, I am but I was using orderID for cancel requests
[2016-02-15 22:57:37] BitMEX_Sam : Understood - I can't replicate orderID not coming back on an insert, let me do some investigation
[2016-02-15 22:59:27] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: ok, orderID seems to be there now but I saw it missing in the log
[2016-02-15 22:59:42] micmix : maybe something during the update
[2016-02-15 22:59:44] BitMEX_Sam : Okay - as for the missing order, I apologize, this was moved to `error.meta` from `error.message`
[2016-02-15 22:59:51] BitMEX_Sam : The message now only contains the rejection reason
[2016-02-15 23:00:20] BitMEX_Sam : That should have been documented and announced, I apologize for that
[2016-02-15 23:02:34] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: there is no error.meta on bulk cancel
[2016-02-15 23:04:00] BitMEX_Sam : The reason for the change was internal, it was not meant to be exposed - I'm going to push a patch that restores the old behavior
[2016-02-15 23:04:03] BitMEX_Sam : Will update you very shortly
[2016-02-15 23:06:56] tscha : you guys are talking about canceling not returning the canceled order object if the order was already filled, correct?
[2016-02-15 23:07:04] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-02-15 23:07:19] BitMEX_Sam : I have a fix in place, rolling it to Testnet and then here shortly.
[2016-02-15 23:19:09] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: thank you for fixing it quickly. I know I should've tested all that on testnet but I like to play with real money :-)
[2016-02-15 23:19:36] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Mea Culpa, that issue shouldn't have made it past Testnet
[2016-02-15 23:19:38] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for letting me know so quickly
[2016-02-15 23:19:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1500 @ 399.63
[2016-02-15 23:20:19] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: The issue is fixed
[2016-02-15 23:22:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 4160 @ 400.13
[2016-02-15 23:25:27] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: yes, works fine now, thanks!
[2016-02-15 23:25:42] BitMEX_Sam : :thumbsup:
[2016-02-15 23:28:00] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: do you always return array of orders, even for single order cancel, same as before?
[2016-02-15 23:28:13] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, always an array
[2016-02-15 23:28:20] micmix : cool, thanks
[2016-02-15 23:28:49] BitMEX_Sam : In general we tend to prefer that just to eliminate the tediousness of checking if the result is an array or not
[2016-02-15 23:41:22] tscha : Thanks for fixing
[2016-02-16 01:15:27] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: API changelog says pushAccount is redundant. do you mean "op": "getAccount"?
[2016-02-16 01:15:30] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 398.84
[2016-02-16 01:23:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 800 @ 398.46
[2016-02-16 01:23:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 398.51
[2016-02-16 01:36:48] habibi : ath on open interest?
[2016-02-16 01:41:52] amirmass : hello
[2016-02-16 01:43:26] habibi : hm u back :)?
[2016-02-16 01:44:16] amirmass : i have been watching btc since 10 months
[2016-02-16 01:44:24] amirmass : but no trading
[2016-02-16 01:44:32] habibi : somehow i know ur nickname
[2016-02-16 01:44:52] amirmass : yeah, we have been talking i think
[2016-02-16 01:45:07] habibi : here like 3 months ago?
[2016-02-16 01:45:16] amirmass : even more
[2016-02-16 01:45:47] habibi : anyway after the 500+, so downmoon
[2016-02-16 01:46:08] amirmass : good luck
[2016-02-16 01:46:14] amirmass : hard to buy btc in Gaza
[2016-02-16 01:46:18] amirmass : sucks to be me
[2016-02-16 01:47:11] habibi : ah no thats not the guy i remember, that one was from States, but as bitmex closed markets for them he was planning to move somewhere else :p
[2016-02-16 01:47:38] amirmass : hh oh ok
[2016-02-16 01:47:53] amirmass : anyway nice to meet u bro
[2016-02-16 01:48:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1850 @ 397.71
[2016-02-16 01:48:35] amirmass : i cant even buy btc without debt
[2016-02-16 01:48:40] amirmass : here
[2016-02-16 01:48:47] amirmass : a credit card*
[2016-02-16 01:48:51] habibi : same:) here u cant buy btc at all
[2016-02-16 01:48:56] habibi : ah gaza ok
[2016-02-16 01:49:11] amirmass : habibi: yeah
[2016-02-16 01:49:21] amirmass : it sucks watching btc mooning
[2016-02-16 01:49:25] amirmass : and not be able to buy
[2016-02-16 01:52:28] amirmass : are u from a rich arab country?
[2016-02-16 01:52:32] amirmass : habibi:
[2016-02-16 01:52:38] habibi : yea, Poland
[2016-02-16 01:52:40] habibi : ;)
[2016-02-16 01:53:16] amirmass : Polands are good looking arabs :)
[2016-02-16 01:53:43] habibi : definitely.
[2016-02-16 02:28:21] amirmass : send some btc to your brother
[2016-02-16 02:28:37] amirmass : habibi:
[2016-02-16 02:29:08] habibi : yea sent him yesterday some, no worries
[2016-02-16 02:30:32] amirmass : ur brother from Gaza
[2016-02-16 02:30:34] amirmass : habibi:
[2016-02-16 02:31:19] amirmass : i could give it back to you X2-X6
[2016-02-16 02:31:26] amirmass : or lose it
[2016-02-16 02:31:32] habibi : my 11 contracts got liquidated man, hard live these day
[2016-02-16 02:31:42] habibi : days
[2016-02-16 02:32:09] amirmass : i have made 20000% last year
[2016-02-16 02:32:29] amirmass : but took all btc to pay bills
[2016-02-16 02:32:39] amirmass : now, u might be lucky
[2016-02-16 02:32:48] amirmass : to give me a loan
[2016-02-16 02:33:06] habibi : nice man, yea i will try tomorrow maybe, need to talk with my mom first
[2016-02-16 02:33:30] habibi : how many btc is 20000%? its like 450 about right?
[2016-02-16 02:33:51] amirmass : no, i started with 0.5
[2016-02-16 02:33:59] habibi : coz my friend made almost 10000% and he said he had 230
[2016-02-16 02:34:00] amirmass : and made it to 45-50
[2016-02-16 02:34:23] amirmass : in 2 months only
[2016-02-16 02:34:28] amirmass : im every good in it
[2016-02-16 02:34:39] habibi : ah we have diffrent math in Poland, still effect of old Soviet block man
[2016-02-16 02:35:00] amirmass : sorry
[2016-02-16 02:35:06] amirmass : i started with 0.2
[2016-02-16 02:35:13] amirmass : and made it to 45-50 btc
[2016-02-16 02:35:42] amirmass : anyway
[2016-02-16 02:35:47] amirmass : nice meeting u
[2016-02-16 02:35:52] amirmass : thought u could help
[2016-02-16 02:36:25] habibi : actually the one who lended me money here was rapidtrades, u need come back later and speak with him
[2016-02-16 02:36:35] habibi : only 0.7 btc but still was a great loan
[2016-02-16 02:36:46] amirmass : wow
[2016-02-16 02:36:54] amirmass : thats nice
[2016-02-16 02:37:06] amirmass : can u loan me 0.1?
[2016-02-16 02:37:11] habibi : he had good mood coz btc went up, probally same now coz we had that spike u know
[2016-02-16 02:38:09] habibi : sleger is a biger loaner, but he wanted my parents sign on papers so i couldnt come up to agreement with him
[2016-02-16 02:39:01] habibi : u need to ask them, be back in 8-10 hours here
[2016-02-16 02:39:02] amirmass : hold old r u
[2016-02-16 02:40:15] habibi : 13 but gonna be 14 next year so not that bad, yo know wat i m sayin
[2016-02-16 02:40:28] amirmass : yeah
[2016-02-16 02:40:34] amirmass : mann
[2016-02-16 02:40:41] amirmass : so 0.05 btc or something
[2016-02-16 02:40:44] amirmass : could help
[2016-02-16 02:40:49] amirmass : promise to give them back
[2016-02-16 02:44:20] habibi : man i dont know
[2016-02-16 02:44:44] habibi : haard to say, did u tried on twitter? or if have tits u know... webcam show maybe?
[2016-02-16 03:06:30] amirmass : dude
[2016-02-16 03:06:32] amirmass : .....
[2016-02-16 03:27:06] rapidtrades : still a $2 discount..everyone out of money to arb?
[2016-02-16 03:27:29] habibi : amirmass: here he is !
[2016-02-16 03:27:53] rapidtrades : NOT LENDING SHIT, HE LIES
[2016-02-16 03:28:29] habibi : just wanted to make ur mood up a bit after meeting our brother from whatever country he is
[2016-02-16 03:29:12] amirmass : hey
[2016-02-16 03:29:33] amirmass : lie about what?
[2016-02-16 03:30:04] rapidtrades : I'm not lending money
[2016-02-16 03:31:09] habibi : so only sleger left :(
[2016-02-16 03:31:29] rapidtrades : yeah sleger is very generous
[2016-02-16 03:31:44] rapidtrades : also muslim
[2016-02-16 03:32:00] rapidtrades : he's a generous muslim
[2016-02-16 03:32:16] habibi : yea he trades oil back and forth
[2016-02-16 03:32:42] rapidtrades : we actually call him the Generous Muslim
[2016-02-16 03:32:54] rapidtrades : that's like his nickname around here
[2016-02-16 03:33:08] amirmass : 0.05 btc
[2016-02-16 03:33:11] habibi : amirmass: u listening? thats important
[2016-02-16 03:33:17] habibi : nah, dont ask him for 0.05
[2016-02-16 03:33:19] habibi : start with 2
[2016-02-16 03:34:05] habibi : and he loves to pay traders money so he can take back some interest
[2016-02-16 03:34:33] habibi : but u need to have some expierence, u said 20000% he will give u without problem even more than 2
[2016-02-16 03:35:07] rapidtrades : habibi: that the megashort guy got liquidated yet
[2016-02-16 03:35:13] rapidtrades : did*
[2016-02-16 03:35:37] rapidtrades : also forgot this ?
[2016-02-16 03:35:37] habibi : nah, nothing special happend,only some more contracts opened
[2016-02-16 03:35:50] rapidtrades : k
[2016-02-16 03:35:51] habibi : like 421k open interest right now
[2016-02-16 03:36:00] rapidtrades : well...shit
[2016-02-16 03:36:45] rapidtrades : is that all-time high? :Support_Sam
[2016-02-16 03:37:00] rapidtrades : Support_Sam:
[2016-02-16 03:37:21] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: ?
[2016-02-16 03:39:15] habibi : amirmass: so come back tomorrow and talk to sleger like "i heard there is a Generous Sleger- The muslim here?
[2016-02-16 03:41:57] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, BitMEX_Wally: looks like I can't send one order/bulk request for multiple instruments, have to split them?
[2016-02-16 03:42:28] rapidtrades : micmix: hey man, what happened earlier with the api
[2016-02-16 03:44:04] zanza : what is with neg premium >? some big shorts here
[2016-02-16 03:44:21] micmix : rapidtrades: API had a breaking change, screwed up my bot and it stopped quoting
[2016-02-16 03:44:54] micmix : rapidtrades: and of course I was sleeping when it happened ;-)
[2016-02-16 03:45:27] zanza : some good arb oppertunities now
[2016-02-16 03:45:40] zanza : long 24H/short 7D
[2016-02-16 03:46:15] habibi : zanza: basically 7d is always higher than dailys
[2016-02-16 03:46:50] zanza : the the dailys are rarely negative
[2016-02-16 03:48:41] zanza : yeah you are right though
[2016-02-16 03:48:46] zanza : 3 points difference isn't that big either
[2016-02-16 03:48:57] rapidtrades : yeah being neg all day
[2016-02-16 03:49:07] rapidtrades : bots broke earlier makybe smth to do with it
[2016-02-16 04:07:26] zanza : maybe someones bot ate up a bunch of bad orders ?
[2016-02-16 04:08:01] zanza : we dipped to 392 today ?
[2016-02-16 04:12:37] laisee : zanza: someones bot tried to crash the market, or got its math wrong else fat fingers ...
[2016-02-16 04:15:24] BitMEX_Wally : The GUI has fat finger protections "Are you sure you want to do it that"
[2016-02-16 04:17:47] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, BitMEX_Wally: something wrong with rate limiting for bulk orders. I tried to submit 40 orders in one request, get 429 error wait 8 minutes right away
[2016-02-16 04:19:29] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: For the moment 40 orders in a bulk submission counts as 20 API requests
[2016-02-16 04:19:43] BitMEX_Wally : 8 minutes seems a bit long though
[2016-02-16 04:20:20] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: yep, and it was the first request my bot did, no requests in the previous 5 minutes
[2016-02-16 04:20:39] micmix : maybe couple like ws subscribe
[2016-02-16 04:21:06] BitMEX_Wally : We will lower this `0.5` adjustment factor to encourage people to use bulk placement
[2016-02-16 04:21:19] BitMEX_Wally : We just need to make sure it is not abused
[2016-02-16 04:21:57] micmix : still even if the limit is 300 per 5 minute I should be able to submit 40 orders in one request
[2016-02-16 04:24:11] micmix : I hope 300 per 5 minutes doesn't mean no more than 1 request per second, otherwise bulk placement is not very useful @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-02-16 04:24:34] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Of course
[2016-02-16 04:25:20] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: ok, I'm going to wait 5 minutes and try again
[2016-02-16 04:25:21] BitMEX_Wally : I'll go through the logs and see what happeened
[2016-02-16 04:27:17] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: You are querying `GET /api/v1/orderBook` every 1 second...
[2016-02-16 04:27:36] BitMEX_Wally : You can just listen to the websocket for updates
[2016-02-16 04:28:33] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: on micmix account? are you sure?
[2016-02-16 04:28:45] BitMEX_Wally : I'm just looking at IP
[2016-02-16 04:29:05] BitMEX_Wally : BitMEX_Sam is the best person to debug this
[2016-02-16 04:31:18] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: ok, I'll talk to Sam tomorrow
[2016-02-16 04:57:58] zanza : looks like futures are green
[2016-02-16 05:04:25] chromaticcr : now i wonder what wrong with China's premium
[2016-02-16 05:40:39] zanza : Yuan is strengthening
[2016-02-16 06:09:38] zanza : OPEC meeting = oil saved, market saved
[2016-02-16 07:43:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 50 @ 398.65
[2016-02-16 07:53:57] veritasBS : this is a nice site...should have more use.
[2016-02-16 07:54:43] veritasBS : 181 bots to 214 users...wow
[2016-02-16 08:00:37] 00Smurf : bot mania
[2016-02-16 08:08:56] rapidtrades : so discount all the way today?
[2016-02-16 08:34:18] zanza : no mroe discount
[2016-02-16 08:34:31] zanza : `Open Interest 442,608`
[2016-02-16 08:37:26] BitMEX_Wally : Would you rather see open interest as number of contracts or a XBT value?
[2016-02-16 08:48:05] zanza : hmm, good question!
[2016-02-16 08:49:23] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: why not both like 250,196 Contracts (998 XBT)?
[2016-02-16 08:49:48] BitMEX_Wally : Not sure there's enough room
[2016-02-16 08:50:16] micmix : lots of room on the Selected Contract panel
[2016-02-16 08:51:09] micmix : depends on the layout of course
[2016-02-16 08:52:02] micmix : you can show it on hover as well
[2016-02-16 08:57:52] rapidtrades : Yuan hit 6.48 yday
[2016-02-16 08:58:25] rapidtrades : up strongly today
[2016-02-16 08:58:41] rapidtrades : well up against dollar, so down :)
[2016-02-16 09:23:39] tscha : yeah I agree, whatever unit you choose, the other showing up at hovering would be useful
[2016-02-16 09:28:02] rapidtrades : markets not happy with oil production freeze
[2016-02-16 09:28:11] rapidtrades : guess hopes were on cut :)
[2016-02-16 09:59:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.01221
[2016-02-16 10:03:56] rapidtrades : f etherium
[2016-02-16 10:19:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 410 @ 403.18
[2016-02-16 10:36:52] veritasBS : ...time to buy xbt
[2016-02-16 11:05:09] 00Smurf : ^ this man speaks the truth
[2016-02-16 11:07:39] amirmass : who can give me 0.05 btc loan?
[2016-02-16 11:08:21] tscha : still cadging?
[2016-02-16 11:18:21] laisee : amirmass: collateral?
[2016-02-16 11:25:31] BitMEX_Wally : amirmass: Sure, deposit 0.0005 Bitcoin and you can go long or short 0.05 XBT
[2016-02-16 11:27:35] tscha : haha
[2016-02-16 11:28:01] messiaen8844 : amirmass: try faucets, Amazon turk, bitjam or bitlendingclub, bitcoin4jobs, etc
[2016-02-16 11:49:06] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-02-16 11:49:16] rapidtrades : crazy shit
[2016-02-16 11:49:36] Teddy76 : nice move :D
[2016-02-16 11:50:13] mrp1nk : new guy?!