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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2016-01-26 09:24:38] elmorte : Well, I have 1BTC in my wallet
[2016-01-26 09:24:43] elmorte : Considering adding another one
[2016-01-26 09:24:50] elmorte : My contracts are 2000-4000
[2016-01-26 09:24:58] elmorte : My current position is 7000 long
[2016-01-26 09:25:04] elmorte : Why?
[2016-01-26 09:25:27] rapidtrades : I can't tell u what to do, but if I were u, I would keep my size down to 1 until I learn the platform
[2016-01-26 09:25:46] elmorte : Yeah, it was an expensive lesson. Appreciate it
[2016-01-26 09:26:31] elmorte : Trying to find some options platforms as well...but BitMEX is just so easy to use (almost too easy on the user experience - thanks Arthur!)
[2016-01-26 09:27:08] elmorte : How many active traders are there, if you don't mind me asking?
[2016-01-26 09:27:21] rapidtrades : 7
[2016-01-26 09:27:36] elmorte : For real? In a zero sum game?
[2016-01-26 09:27:56] rapidtrades : j/k around 15-20 ppl frequent this chat
[2016-01-26 09:28:07] rapidtrades : rest come and go...
[2016-01-26 09:28:13] rapidtrades : poof...
[2016-01-26 09:28:18] elmorte : Hehe, nice one
[2016-01-26 09:30:06] elmorte : Yeah, I was so disappointed with myself and the forced liquidation...almost said screw it
[2016-01-26 09:30:27] elmorte : It happened so fast...it was seconds between "you need to top up" and "liquidated"
[2016-01-26 09:30:40] elmorte : But I should have paid more attention....stupid Netflix
[2016-01-26 09:32:09] elmorte : rapidtrades, do you use bots?
[2016-01-26 09:32:30] rapidtrades : no
[2016-01-26 09:33:21] elmorte : Cool...was interested in the algorithms and what base price they use
[2016-01-26 09:34:03] elmorte : I was almost certain it was bitfinex since the price here followed the movements there closely....but then not anymore in the last 48 hrs
[2016-01-26 10:03:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.00689
[2016-01-26 10:30:27] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: I have replied to your support request
[2016-01-26 10:30:43] BitMEX_Wally : You had realisedPNL from opening, then closing a position...
[2016-01-26 10:30:51] elmorte : Cheers Wally, I'll have a look
[2016-01-26 10:32:20] elmorte : Got it, thanks for the explanation!
[2016-01-26 10:41:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 394.85
[2016-01-26 12:13:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 100 @ 394.80
[2016-01-26 12:16:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 50 @ 393.68
[2016-01-26 14:56:27] Akaiapc40 : Only bots in eth7D?
[2016-01-26 14:57:01] rapidtrades : LAAAAAAGGGGG
[2016-01-26 14:57:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 392.82
[2016-01-26 14:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 10 @ 391.81
[2016-01-26 14:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 831 @ 391.44
[2016-01-26 15:02:20] habibi : wtf with 24h?
[2016-01-26 15:02:33] habibi : Order could not be submitted: Executing at 388.24 would cause immediate liquidation. Try disabling isolated margin.
[2016-01-26 15:02:54] habibi : ah isolated somehow get enabled;p
[2016-01-26 15:09:46] rapidtrades : what bullshit man...I traded 2 times today and first time I caught the spike up the wrong way and now the spike down
[2016-01-26 15:10:24] rapidtrades : this shit of a coin barely moved outside of the time I had a resting bid/offer to get picked
[2016-01-26 15:10:32] rapidtrades : srlsy shit fucking coin cunt
[2016-01-26 15:28:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.00676
[2016-01-26 15:30:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 33 @ 0.00668
[2016-01-26 15:31:32] rapidtrades : I think today we break down again
[2016-01-26 15:44:38] elmorte : Anything in the news?
[2016-01-26 15:45:21] rapidtrades : no idea, check reddit
[2016-01-26 15:45:28] elmorte : I am, brb
[2016-01-26 15:46:46] elmorte : Nothing really new, just a bunch of hype and squabbles
[2016-01-26 15:57:41] elmorte : rapidtrades, you trade anywhere else?
[2016-01-26 16:04:19] rapidtrades : yea
[2016-01-26 16:17:07] elmorte : you're a man of few words
[2016-01-26 16:19:10] DareDevil : how come 24H is $2.5 lower then market? Lag?
[2016-01-26 16:20:44] elmorte : Or people are predicting the market will crash...
[2016-01-26 16:21:02] elmorte : 7D is $5 below
[2016-01-26 16:26:42] j8 : just bearish, it's an arb opportunity really.
[2016-01-26 16:46:35] elmorte : j8, how?
[2016-01-26 16:47:48] j8 : buy `XBT24H`, sell spot, buy back spot at settlement
[2016-01-26 16:48:01] j8 : or in a couple hours if there's a positive premium, who knows
[2016-01-26 16:48:22] elmorte : Can you buy spot here?
[2016-01-26 16:48:33] j8 : no, have to use another exchange for that
[2016-01-26 16:48:43] elmorte : Ok
[2016-01-26 16:48:52] elmorte : Nice one, thanks
[2016-01-26 16:49:45] Akaiapc40 : what's spot?
[2016-01-26 16:50:07] elmorte : The actual bitcoin
[2016-01-26 16:50:19] elmorte : Not the derivative like what we're trading here
[2016-01-26 16:50:27] j8 : i.e. the BTC/USD markets, bitfinex, bitstamp etc
[2016-01-26 16:51:25] elmorte : test
[2016-01-26 16:51:40] elmorte : Hmmm...two of my earlier msgs didn't get thru
[2016-01-26 16:52:15] elmorte : Actually, they're in the archive but disappeared from the trollbox
[2016-01-26 16:53:01] j8 : try refreshing, they look the same to me
[2016-01-26 16:53:04] Akaiapc40 : elmorte: thanks ;)
[2016-01-26 16:54:19] elmorte : No worries, guys around here have been very helpful to me too, just paying it forward :)
[2016-01-26 16:54:28] Akaiapc40 : eheeehhe
[2016-01-26 16:54:48] Akaiapc40 : yes i like community eher...some nice guys very helpful
[2016-01-26 16:54:54] Akaiapc40 : here*
[2016-01-26 16:55:49] elmorte : True. I only opened the trollbox today coz I was on mobile and saw there was real conversation going on
[2016-01-26 16:56:57] elmorte : How's the market been treating you?
[2016-01-26 16:58:21] Akaiapc40 : long on ETH from 660
[2016-01-26 16:58:52] elmorte : Nice. I haven't really had time to research ETH
[2016-01-26 16:59:19] Akaiapc40 : but before i forgot to uncheck "islate margin" and liquidation rekt me
[2016-01-26 16:59:55] Akaiapc40 : Still didn't understand if ETH is a bubble or can consolidate on some decent levels
[2016-01-26 17:00:16] Akaiapc40 : for the moment i'm speculating on thi high/low 640/720 everyday
[2016-01-26 17:06:39] j8 : waiting patiently to short, i think it will consolidate lower than here but these things can always pump higher than you expect
[2016-01-26 17:17:25] j8 : holy dogecoin
[2016-01-26 17:17:42] rapidtrades : f*ck doge
[2016-01-26 17:17:59] j8 : +63% today
[2016-01-26 17:18:19] j8 : doge pumpin, oldschool
[2016-01-26 17:19:00] Akaiapc40 : hit 91 on polo---now back @ 85
[2016-01-26 17:25:09] rapidtrades : why is it up
[2016-01-26 17:26:19] j8 : dunno, looks like a lot of alts are on a tear
[2016-01-26 17:41:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.00638 :punch: :whale:
[2016-01-26 17:44:39] rapidtrades : *single tear
[2016-01-26 17:46:23] j8 : it always ends in tears
[2016-01-26 17:54:26] Akaiapc40 : BitMEX processes withdrawal requests each day at 13 UTC.
[2016-01-26 17:54:46] Akaiapc40 : thats mean that i cant receive before 13 of tomorrow?
[2016-01-26 17:55:59] j8 : thats right
[2016-01-26 17:56:11] Akaiapc40 : ouch
[2016-01-26 17:56:41] Akaiapc40 : too much time....wasn't better to check more time a day
[2016-01-26 17:57:20] Akaiapc40 : instead only 1 slot @ 13:00
[2016-01-26 17:57:47] j8 : read here
[2016-01-26 17:57:47] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/security
[2016-01-26 17:58:17] j8 : they're all multisig, takes 2 of 3 bitmex keys
[2016-01-26 17:58:39] Akaiapc40 : yes i know....but.....
[2016-01-26 17:58:50] Akaiapc40 : bitcoin should be faster than fiat imo
[2016-01-26 17:59:11] tscha : Akaiapc40: better 1 time a day and cold wallet only than automatic withdrawals and a hotwallet-risk
[2016-01-26 17:59:14] Akaiapc40 : thumbs up for ecutìrity...but thats too slow
[2016-01-26 17:59:18] j8 : more times would be convenient i agree. it's mostly inconvenient if you don't know about it
[2016-01-26 18:00:07] Akaiapc40 : tscha: i confirmed wd on my mail...now i can delete the wd?
[2016-01-26 18:00:22] Akaiapc40 : at this time i prefer to have my btc here
[2016-01-26 18:00:32] Akaiapc40 : instead to didn't have until tomo
[2016-01-26 18:00:33] j8 : email support, they can do that
[2016-01-26 18:00:43] Akaiapc40 : j8: thanks
[2016-01-26 18:00:45] tscha : Akaiapc40: write to support@bitmex.com if you want to delete your withdrawl
[2016-01-26 18:01:04] Akaiapc40 : tscha: great!
[2016-01-26 18:31:20] Akaiapc40 : tscha: Done and wdd deleted
[2016-01-26 18:34:17] tscha : Akaiapc40: cool! then I wish you happy trading until 13:00 ;)
[2016-01-26 19:17:29] sleger : http://www.skadden.com/insights/bitcoins-and-blockchain-cftc-takes-notice-virtual-currencies#%2EVp_WPtwb6wg%2Elinkedin
[2016-01-26 19:17:44] sleger : the new big trader who's manipulating the settlement should really be careful
[2016-01-26 19:30:38] djuan : rapidtrades: what part of the UK are you from mate?
[2016-01-26 19:37:32] laisee : sleger: interesting. I wonder how would the cftc compel a non-US s[ot exchange to offer up info on trading by a non-US citizen?
[2016-01-26 19:38:12] sleger : easy, price impacts other products offered by us exchange, gemini for instance
[2016-01-26 19:41:27] Akaiapc40 : eth crashed!
[2016-01-26 19:41:30] laisee : thats pretty indirect, don't u think
[2016-01-26 19:41:35] Akaiapc40 : bubble exploded
[2016-01-26 19:43:57] laisee : ETH is not lighter than air
[2016-01-26 19:45:10] tscha : CFTC has zero to say about non-US exchanges that don't serve US citizens. Just because these exchanges affect some prices on minor US exchanges that doesn't mean they can do anything about it. Arguing that way would mean they'd be able to control ALL derivative markets worldwide since they all affect some US prices, which is nonsense.
[2016-01-26 19:46:03] laisee : tscha: I know CFTC would like to regulate the whole world. but it may not be practival ...
[2016-01-26 19:49:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.00608
[2016-01-26 19:50:01] laisee : just don't visit NY for next holiday ...
[2016-01-26 19:51:13] tscha : laisee: it's simply not in their authorization to reach into asian markets. all exchanges that had problems with cftc (teraexchange, coinflip) were based in the US
[2016-01-26 19:51:44] tscha : so irrelevant for bitmex
[2016-01-26 19:52:43] tscha : If this "new" trader starts manipulating US markets, he could get into problems though, but I doubt anyone is that stupid.
[2016-01-26 19:53:19] laisee : tscha: yes, best leave that to the big boys
[2016-01-26 20:03:38] lockhedge : tscha: *Swiss bankers whose names were delivered to the United States in April as part of the crackdown on US tax evaders face the risk of arrest while travelling in some European countries, not just on US soil. Extradition treaties between the US and countries including France, Germany, Italy, Austria and Britain make it possible for the US to take legal steps via Interpol against bankers suspected of helping US citizens evade taxes, Denise Chervet, central secretary of the Swiss Bank Employees Association told the Swiss News Agency.* http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/grounded-bankers_us-may-target-swiss-bankers-travelling-in-europe/33259656
[2016-01-26 20:06:16] tscha : lockhedge: yes I know about that. That's a clear case --> US citizens evading US-taxes. Doesn't have anything to do with CFTC, derivative markets or non-us exchanges for non-us citizens though.
[2016-01-26 20:07:32] laisee : CFTC does have non-USA regulatory powers but seems limited to swaps under Dodd-Frank only
[2016-01-26 20:08:01] tscha : Yeah, they can reach outside of US in specific cases.
[2016-01-26 20:09:39] tscha : bitmex future manipulation ain't one of those though ;). I guess that's also one of the reasons arthur&co. prohibit US traders on their site, otherwise they would have to deal with much more legislation issues.
[2016-01-26 20:10:06] laisee : tscha: true, dat
[2016-01-26 20:11:32] elmorte : Where's BitMEX based?
[2016-01-26 20:11:48] elmorte : Mexico? :)
[2016-01-26 20:11:51] tscha : Sam actually said that himself I just found: "No, we have not been contacted [by US authorities]. We prefer to make proactive efforts to keep our business safe rather than to risk administrative action and penalty." https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3niv2f/bitmex_new_usa_regulations/cvqe58c
[2016-01-26 20:12:16] laisee : and maybe why bitfinex renamed their 'swap' product.
[2016-01-26 20:12:20] tscha : elmorte: Seychelles
[2016-01-26 20:13:10] Akaiapc40 : nice place where to go on the beach
[2016-01-26 20:13:38] elmorte : For sure @Akaiapc40
[2016-01-26 20:34:17] sleger : CFTC only needs to consider that something has "deep implications" on the US markets to decide to have legal authority
[2016-01-26 20:37:40] laisee : sledger : link? thats not dodd-frank rules.
[2016-01-26 20:43:47] sleger : cant find it right now, I believe it's something new though (~6months old)
[2016-01-26 20:47:12] tscha : this only applies for markets/swaps that significantly affect US financial markets or US commerce, which is clearly not the case here.
[2016-01-26 20:47:19] tscha : maybe in 10 years from now... hopefully
[2016-01-26 20:48:00] laisee : k, so guys in black helicopters are not heading my way fior a wjile yet
[2016-01-26 20:49:41] tscha : no, they will only fukk with US exchanges and hinder innovation back at home
[2016-01-26 20:50:12] laisee : tscha: sarbanes-oxley for 21st centiry, nice ..
[2016-01-26 20:50:31] lockhedge : Odds not in favour of UK trader winning US extradition fight http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/339fbe72-f4b2-11e4-8a42-00144feab7de.html
[2016-01-26 20:51:15] tscha : laisee: http://us.practicallaw.com/3-502-8950#a662460
[2016-01-26 20:53:29] laisee : Bitmex is safe until it starts taking business from US exchanges and banks, then
[2016-01-26 20:55:55] rapidtrades : will this shitcoin ever move
[2016-01-26 20:56:07] rapidtrades : MOVE ALREADY FAGGYASS COIN
[2016-01-26 21:02:48] lockhedge : laisee: more safe than most of the other trading venues, but there is compliance risk. the CFTC might say that the exchange is operated by U.S. citizens, EU regulators might say that BitMEX (their servers) is operated in Ireland, Hong Kong regulators could say that the principal place of business is there...
[2016-01-26 21:06:02] sleger : Depends if US major shareholders represent 50% or more
[2016-01-26 21:13:26] rapidtrades : bunch of lawyers here huh
[2016-01-26 21:13:37] rapidtrades : wtf does shareholders have to do with it
[2016-01-26 21:14:18] rapidtrades : regulations usually cover individuals trading
[2016-01-26 21:14:28] sleger : because a foreign entity controlled in majority by US shareholder is considered a US entity
[2016-01-26 21:14:36] rapidtrades : no it isn't
[2016-01-26 21:14:54] sleger : are you a US lawyer ?
[2016-01-26 21:15:01] rapidtrades : are you?
[2016-01-26 21:15:07] sleger : are you ?
[2016-01-26 21:15:11] rapidtrades : are you?
[2016-01-26 21:15:33] sleger : go back to drinking beers and shouting with your caps lock broken key
[2016-01-26 21:15:56] rapidtrades : I do what I want
[2016-01-26 21:20:22] sleger : http://www.klgates.com/files/Publication/84ba10a1-2959-4b77-9490-10edba32881c/Presentation/PublicationAttachment/dbbf4f35-b971-4ce1-9308-1716bdd378ad/IL_1013_Meer.pdf
[2016-01-26 21:31:38] tscha : that link has nothing to do with your statement "because a foreign entity controlled in majority by US shareholder is considered a US entity"
[2016-01-26 21:32:43] sleger : just focus on why h16 doesnt follow spot, it will serve you well
[2016-01-26 21:42:00] tscha : sleger: That link is about **investment vehicles**, by that they mean things like CDFs or ETFs (google it). So if these vehicles are owned >50% by US persons, these products can be regulated by CFTC. Bitmex having >50% US shareholders or >80% or 100% is completely irrelevant here... lmao
[2016-01-26 22:05:59] sleger : tscha is the sound I produce when I sneeze
[2016-01-26 23:05:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.00493 :punch: :whale:
[2016-01-26 23:22:55] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 17992 @ 389.89 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-01-26 23:23:10] SnackyCoins : wow
[2016-01-26 23:25:19] Strobelov : ouchie
[2016-01-26 23:26:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 500 @ 389.83
[2016-01-27 00:04:57] tscha : lockhedge: you will like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFQJNeQDDHA
[2016-01-27 00:08:21] tscha : lockhedge: it's about http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443989204577599243693561670
[2016-01-27 00:31:45] j8 : pretty sure he's posted it to trollbox before :)
[2016-01-27 00:37:13] tscha : well, yeah, that's 100% lockhedge :D
[2016-01-27 00:40:57] micmix : well the whole premise of the inquiry is completely misguided. of course computer algos give advantage to trading firms over retail investors. why would trading firms use them otherwise?
[2016-01-27 00:42:06] tscha : micmix: it is not the algos giving the advantages, but the exchanges
[2016-01-27 00:43:24] micmix : from the article: 'order types that, when used with certain trading algorithms, can be unfair to less-savvy investors'
[2016-01-27 00:44:15] micmix : less-savvy investors will always be in disadvantage. same order types are available to everyone
[2016-01-27 00:44:23] tscha : micmix: no
[2016-01-27 00:44:31] tscha : micmix: exchanges execute orders from certain institutions before orders from "normal" traders, even if they have lower time-priority.. and they use special ordertypes to "signal" that they are special and need faster execution
[2016-01-27 00:45:21] tscha : that's the point, not everybody has access to all ordertypes
[2016-01-27 00:46:38] micmix : it's completely different if exchanges restrict that order type to firms that have a special agreement
[2016-01-27 00:47:15] micmix : but I don't see it in the article
[2016-01-27 00:48:21] micmix : I agree it's a gray area, for example it could be available to everyone but not described anywhere
[2016-01-27 00:48:36] micmix : so you have to be 'in the know'
[2016-01-27 00:49:51] tscha : micmix: unfortunately, I can't open the article anymore <.<. But the term "ordertype" was mainly used for signalling.
[2016-01-27 00:50:21] micmix : front running is unfair, I agree
[2016-01-27 00:50:49] tscha : micmix: Is it a gray area if you execute orders, which are behind in queue, first? I thought that's clearly illegal.
[2016-01-27 00:51:14] micmix : BTW, if you want to read WSJ article for free, just google the title and use a link from google
[2016-01-27 00:51:54] tscha : micmix: ah cool, thanks.. yeah that's how I was able to read if the first time haha
[2016-01-27 00:52:47] micmix : tscha: it's illegal to give priority to selected parties but order types are gray area (as long as same order types are available to everyone). SEC might decide otherwise after this inquiry
[2016-01-27 00:53:35] tscha : micmix: I see, that's maybe how they circumvented the law
[2016-01-27 01:01:12] tscha : They actually implemented behaviours between certain ordertypes and only disclosed full information about these behaviours to special institutions. Which, in the end and in praxis, is just giving priority to these parties.
[2016-01-27 01:02:43] tscha : Anyhow, very nasty
[2016-01-27 01:03:07] micmix : yeah, it's a nasty business
[2016-01-27 01:08:21] tscha : I always thought Canadians are too nice for this business xD
[2016-01-27 01:10:37] laisee : ... where are the customers yachts?
[2016-01-27 01:11:05] laisee : seems like nothing changes on wall st
[2016-01-27 01:14:55] micmix : tscha: I'm not in that business, I'm all in on crypto ;-)
[2016-01-27 01:15:31] tscha : good-guy-image confirmed :D
[2016-01-27 01:16:12] micmix : unfortunately crypto turns nasty with this blocksize war
[2016-01-27 01:18:56] tscha : Yeah, I think there will be a big showdown with huge price-drops. But also an opportunity to buy cheap
[2016-01-27 01:20:43] tscha : Blockstream won't give up the power for free, after all their investors expect returns for the $21m they pumped into them. But the community on the other hand won't accept that either. I don't see a peaceful end for that fight unfortunately.
[2016-01-27 01:29:29] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.00591
[2016-01-27 01:31:34] j8 : 'hide not slide' was the controversial order type. but yeah, mostly an issue when it was undocumented and only known to certain HFT firms
[2016-01-27 01:39:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 600 @ 0.00590
[2016-01-27 01:46:36] kingscrown : so ive posted this when DOGE was at 80 satoshi ;) https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/692064383833350145 :)
[2016-01-27 02:46:32] tscha : 2000 contracts sold in the last 2 hours :o
[2016-01-27 03:05:51] rapidtrades : is that a lot or not
[2016-01-27 03:06:38] rapidtrades : f*cking China messed up my sleeping pattern
[2016-01-27 03:19:18] kingscrown : https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/692184719857979394
[2016-01-27 03:21:48] rapidtrades : I wish AIDS upon you
[2016-01-27 03:35:26] laisee : is that how you say "good morning" in your native language?
[2016-01-27 04:37:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 172 @ 0.00639
[2016-01-27 04:56:48] zanza : https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/692143538360979458
[2016-01-27 06:13:55] elmorte : Where can you buy ETH spot?
[2016-01-27 06:14:17] elmorte : Someone wrote polonium but I guess I'm too dumb to figure it out...
[2016-01-27 06:27:28] lockhedge : tscha: fun fact: i found about Haim Bodek this summer when i was doing some research on order engine abuse at Bitfinex. could not believe that this happens at traditional markets as well... here Haim goes a bit more into detail https://twitter.com/RobotFinance/status/629396346374483968 @micmix
[2016-01-27 06:32:51] GerryHYH : Hi guys
[2016-01-27 06:33:01] GerryHYH : I'm trying to deposit some money into BitMEX now
[2016-01-27 06:33:09] GerryHYH : how do I scan the QR code?
[2016-01-27 06:35:47] micmix : lockhedge: bitcoin exchanges are super nice compared to traditional markets ;-)
[2016-01-27 06:36:04] lockhedge : GerryHYH: do you deposit from a wallet app on your smartphone or a web based wallet like blockchain.info? (just copy/paste the address if it's web)
[2016-01-27 06:37:33] GerryHYH : Thanks lock, I'll figure it out, still very new to the bitcoin business :)
[2016-01-27 06:37:36] GerryHYH : and hi micmix :)
[2016-01-27 06:38:16] micmix : lockhedge: worst you can see in bitcoin is insider trading, bots run by the exchange and some front-running. that's not so bad ;-)
[2016-01-27 06:38:24] micmix : GerryHYH: hi Gerry
[2016-01-27 06:39:03] micmix : GerryHYH: what bitcoin wallet are you using?
[2016-01-27 06:42:41] lockhedge : micmix: agree, conflict of interest between exchanges and big market participants seems lower in Bitcoin. e.g. liquidity provision is much more decentralized than on traditional markets where market entry barrier prohibit a guy like me to run his own small mm bot
[2016-01-27 06:52:21] micmix : lockhedge: yeah, bitcoin is definitely more democratic in that sense
[2016-01-27 07:48:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.00592
[2016-01-27 08:42:39] rapidtrades : and the prize for the most boring trading instrument goes tooooo:
[2016-01-27 08:42:55] rapidtrades : shitcoin, formerly known as bitcoin while it was good
[2016-01-27 08:43:46] laisee : DOGE for fun and profit these days ...
[2016-01-27 08:44:13] rapidtrades : yeah well 100% up, already missed that train
[2016-01-27 08:44:23] rapidtrades : can u short it?
[2016-01-27 08:46:40] laisee : polo via margin
[2016-01-27 08:47:07] rapidtrades : what's the rate
[2016-01-27 08:49:53] GerryHYH : Gus
[2016-01-27 08:49:59] GerryHYH : Guys*, on the Order Controls
[2016-01-27 08:50:12] GerryHYH : if I click on 'Stop Limit', it's actually OCO?
[2016-01-27 08:55:18] BitMEX_Wally : GerryHYH: No, it is a StopLimit order
[2016-01-27 08:55:34] BitMEX_Wally : It has a trigger price, and once triggered becomes a limit order at the limit price
[2016-01-27 08:55:50] BitMEX_Wally : We will be supporting OCO orders very soon though
[2016-01-27 08:56:05] GerryHYH : Hi Wally! thanks for your reponse
[2016-01-27 08:56:15] GerryHYH : Yeah, just placed my first trade
[2016-01-27 08:56:52] GerryHYH : Love your platform, and love the concept of quanto futures - affordable
[2016-01-27 08:57:13] GerryHYH : but you guys coming from a professional finance background, it's really hard to learn all at once :P
[2016-01-27 08:57:28] GerryHYH : Do I get a daily statement?
[2016-01-27 08:57:36] GerryHYH : that shows exchange fee, settlement fee etc?
[2016-01-27 08:58:15] BitMEX_Wally : GerryHYH: We do not do a statement, but you can see all your trade history here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-01-27 08:58:28] BitMEX_Wally : That will include settlement and the fees paid
[2016-01-27 08:59:20] GerryHYH : I got charged 0? Even though I was a taker?
[2016-01-27 08:59:31] GerryHYH : Test
[2016-01-27 08:59:49] BitMEX_Wally : We only show 4 digits of precision so it might be too small
[2016-01-27 09:00:28] GerryHYH : I see
[2016-01-27 09:01:47] GerryHYH : ok thank you, so taker fee would be 0.00075 multiply by $393
[2016-01-27 09:02:00] GerryHYH : so in terms of $, it's $0.29?
[2016-01-27 09:02:11] BitMEX_Wally : Depends how many contracts
[2016-01-27 09:02:40] GerryHYH : test
[2016-01-27 09:02:47] BitMEX_Wally : Test successful
[2016-01-27 09:03:04] BitMEX_Wally : The trade history has a `Value` column, this is the gross value of the trade in Bitcoin
[2016-01-27 09:03:26] BitMEX_Wally : The commission paid will be 0.00075 of that
[2016-01-27 09:04:09] BitMEX_Wally : So if you trade 1 Bitcoin worth of contracts at $393 then yes, it is $0.29
[2016-01-27 09:04:36] BitMEX_Wally : 255 contracts
[2016-01-27 09:05:01] GerryHYH : I see, but since I'm trading Quanto Futures
[2016-01-27 09:05:23] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-01-27 09:05:34] BitMEX_Wally : Although the same applies for our Inverse futures, because they are margined and settled in Bitcoin
[2016-01-27 09:05:52] BitMEX_Wally : 1 contract of `XBU7D` is $100 USD worth of Bitcoin
[2016-01-27 09:06:01] GerryHYH : the exchange fee is= 0.00075 multiply by 1 btc multiply by 0.0039
[2016-01-27 09:07:26] GerryHYH : if that is the case, then it is attractive! making sense now, at first I thought it is like $0.29 cents per execution, and that's very expensive since 1 contract movement is tiny
[2016-01-27 09:08:50] BitMEX_Wally : If you trade 255 contracts at 393 then 255 * 393 * 0.00001 = 1.002 Bitcoin
[2016-01-27 09:09:24] BitMEX_Wally : Then to work out the USD cost of commission it is 1.002 * 0.00075 * 393 = 0.29
[2016-01-27 09:09:43] BitMEX_Wally : So the whole expression: `255 * 393 * 0.00001 * 0.00075 * 393 = 0.295`
[2016-01-27 09:10:51] BitMEX_Wally : It's easier to think in Bitcoin terms
[2016-01-27 09:11:25] GerryHYH : yeah, super confused right now :P sec Wally, still trying to get my head around this
[2016-01-27 09:11:56] BitMEX_Wally : The gross value of 1 contract is `1 * 393 * 0.00001`
[2016-01-27 09:12:11] BitMEX_Wally : `= 0.00393` Bitcoin
[2016-01-27 09:12:19] GerryHYH : that I understand sir
[2016-01-27 09:12:48] BitMEX_Wally : Cool, so the fees on that are `1 * 393 * 0.00001 * 0.00075 = 0.0000029` Bitcoin
[2016-01-27 09:13:09] BitMEX_Wally : And then if you really want to turn it back in dollars... `1 * 393 * 0.00001 * 0.00075 * 393 = $0.0011584`
[2016-01-27 09:13:52] GerryHYH : Wally, thank you so much
[2016-01-27 09:14:03] GerryHYH : Thanks to you, BitMEX seem so much more attractive to trade now :D
[2016-01-27 09:14:12] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2016-01-27 09:14:27] GerryHYH : my dumb understanding was that I thought it would cost me 30 cents to trade per Quanto Future
[2016-01-27 09:14:29] GerryHYH : ....
[2016-01-27 09:14:49] GerryHYH : Like I love the platform, but thought it was super expensive to trade...
[2016-01-27 09:14:55] GerryHYH : facepalm
[2016-01-27 09:15:06] BitMEX_Wally : Notice how the dollar value of 1 contract is `1 * Price * 0.00001 * * Price`. This includes the price squared, so it is quadratic (in dollars terms)
[2016-01-27 09:15:11] BitMEX_Wally : This is why everyone likes to be long the quanto futures
[2016-01-27 09:16:52] elmorte : It's only expensive if you make silly mistakes :( @GerryHYH
[2016-01-27 09:17:30] GerryHYH : Elmorte, I'm not a pro like you :P I'm just a small fish retail client :D
[2016-01-27 09:38:32] laisee : good luck GerryHYH.
[2016-01-27 09:39:01] GerryHYH : THanks Laisee :)
[2016-01-27 10:03:27] lockhedge : GerryHYH: you can change the currency display (main option, click on your name at the top right) and then refresh the Trade History page to see full details of your fees paid
[2016-01-27 10:13:59] tscha : lockhedge: are you still up? :o
[2016-01-27 10:14:16] tscha : or already
[2016-01-27 10:15:23] lockhedge : already since 7:30 today
[2016-01-27 11:24:42] zanza : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWeBunPiIzo&list=FLVEvY-toyko6X4MpfDjM1xg&index=1
[2016-01-27 11:34:52] tscha : zanza: can't believe I just watched this
[2016-01-27 11:58:09] tscha : close positions
[2016-01-27 12:00:23] chromaticcr : such volume...
[2016-01-27 13:03:51] dorothy490 : admins... you didnt added yet possibility to add margin to active orders (when I have no active positions)
[2016-01-27 13:03:54] dorothy490 : you had this function before but now its not there
[2016-01-27 13:04:18] dorothy490 : and I can either have stop order for not isolated or isolated x100. But I want to have isolated order x30 for example
[2016-01-27 13:12:44] zanza : "ORDER OPTIONS"
[2016-01-27 13:12:53] zanza : top of trading window
[2016-01-27 14:32:59] tscha : dorothy490: This feature hasn't been implemented yet. I agree that it'd be nice to set specific leverage factor for isolated positions.
[2016-01-27 17:07:10] rapidtrades : how's it going fellas?
[2016-01-27 17:43:21] elmorte : It ain't
[2016-01-27 17:48:25] Javier : oh, "some movement"
[2016-01-27 17:49:59] elmorte : Maybe someone switched off the internet in China
[2016-01-27 17:50:11] elmorte : _whoops_
[2016-01-27 17:51:28] Javier : I though bitcoin was forbbiden in China
[2016-01-27 17:52:18] sleger : 0kcoin, hu0bi, btcc ??
[2016-01-27 17:54:59] elmorte : No, that's Facebook
[2016-01-27 17:55:42] Javier : ok
[2016-01-27 17:59:35] elmorte : Thailand banned it, as far as I know
[2016-01-27 18:37:49] sleger : price increase ?
[2016-01-27 18:39:06] rapidtrades : the last 10 replies in this chat are completely unrelated to each other
[2016-01-27 18:39:13] rapidtrades : wtf ppl, this isn't Twitta
[2016-01-27 18:39:38] giel__ : it could be
[2016-01-27 18:40:31] rapidtrades : will some idiot panic on the FOMC again like last time? tune in at 8!
[2016-01-27 18:42:11] elmorte : rapidtrades: that's 11 now :p
[2016-01-27 18:43:05] rapidtrades : 11? RUSSIAN DETECTED INVASION IMMINENT!
[2016-01-27 18:44:14] elmorte : Someone's knocking on my door, brb
[2016-01-27 18:45:08] elmorte : It's a bald topless dude, on a horse. I'll just switch off the lights
[2016-01-27 18:45:59] rapidtrades : quick, hide Crimea
[2016-01-27 18:48:29] elmorte : fucK, too late
[2016-01-27 18:48:57] elmorte : lol...what? I typed f u c k
[2016-01-27 18:51:09] rapidtrades : yeah censorship
[2016-01-27 18:51:30] BitMEX_Sam : We're the thought police
[2016-01-27 18:52:18] rapidtrades : I feel oppressed
[2016-01-27 19:03:35] elmorte : rapidtrades: have a drink
[2016-01-27 19:09:35] rapidtrades : some risk aversion post-FOMC
[2016-01-27 19:09:41] rapidtrades : wonder if it will stick
[2016-01-27 19:18:40] rapidtrades : only 14 trades in the past 4.5 hours
[2016-01-27 19:19:38] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, slow day.
[2016-01-27 19:20:22] rapidtrades : you can say that again
[2016-01-27 20:08:54] djuan : small long anyone?
[2016-01-27 20:09:55] djuan : things about to get freaky i think
[2016-01-27 20:25:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1850 @ 396.16
[2016-01-27 20:26:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 530 @ 396.81
[2016-01-27 22:31:07] Strobelov : Man, I have got to be more careful about which option I have selected when submitting an order. Especially on mobile.
[2016-01-27 22:54:19] Strobelov : Which instrument, rather.
[2016-01-27 23:24:12] cryptodwarf : may i ask
[2016-01-27 23:24:18] cryptodwarf : what is leverage?
[2016-01-27 23:24:45] tscha : cryptodwarf: google if your best friend: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/leverage.asp
[2016-01-27 23:24:48] tscha : is*
[2016-01-27 23:25:34] cryptodwarf : thx i tried googling but i guess i had the wrong words XD
[2016-01-27 23:39:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.00592
[2016-01-27 23:43:41] rapidtrades : I just watched some paint dry
[2016-01-27 23:44:04] rapidtrades : never had so much fun watching BTC this week, I can tell u that
[2016-01-28 01:16:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 500 @ 394.31
[2016-01-28 02:34:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 153 @ 392.85
[2016-01-28 02:34:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 8 @ 391.79
[2016-01-28 02:34:55] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 100 @ 392.02
[2016-01-28 02:35:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 88 @ 390.20
[2016-01-28 02:36:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 44 @ 388.73
[2016-01-28 02:36:05] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-01-28 02:36:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1352 @ 387.26
[2016-01-28 02:37:57] BitMEX_Arthur : Futures trading webinar on risk management airing in 20 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Ja0h70wkA
[2016-01-28 02:38:11] GerryHYH : Awesome Arthur
[2016-01-28 02:43:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 386.47
[2016-01-28 02:44:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 868 @ 387.39
[2016-01-28 02:44:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 135 @ 523.12
[2016-01-28 02:45:41] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: another webinar during turmoil :)
[2016-01-28 02:45:50] rapidtrades : you're my lucky charm sir
[2016-01-28 02:58:35] zanza : ???????
[2016-01-28 02:59:25] zanza : that was a finex dump I think
[2016-01-28 02:59:32] habibi : china
[2016-01-28 03:00:02] zanza : do you think Finex volume lead it?
[2016-01-28 03:00:14] habibi : china, finex was trying to front run china
[2016-01-28 03:00:35] rapidtrades : we're down everywhere so doesn't matter who started what now
[2016-01-28 03:00:45] rapidtrades : a break of the range was gonna happen sooner or later
[2016-01-28 03:01:50] zanza : chia still has a high premium
[2016-01-28 03:01:56] zanza : (yuan)
[2016-01-28 03:02:07] zanza : http://www.twitch.tv/djcutman
[2016-01-28 03:05:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3506 @ 378.95
[2016-01-28 03:05:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 5986 @ 519.26
[2016-01-28 03:06:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 2300 @ 377.41
[2016-01-28 03:07:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 1250 @ 512.72
[2016-01-28 03:07:46] elmorte : fuck fuck fuck...gotta top quickly
[2016-01-28 03:09:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XLT7D`: Sell 62 @ 3.119
[2016-01-28 03:09:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XLT7D`: Sell 842 @ 3.113
[2016-01-28 03:09:46] rapidtrades : SELL EVERYTHING!!!111
[2016-01-28 03:09:53] rapidtrades : RBS WAS RIGHT AFTER ALL!
[2016-01-28 03:10:32] rapidtrades : SELL YO KIDS, SELL YO WIFE, SELL YOUR KIDS'S WIFE
[2016-01-28 03:11:34] elmorte : KEEP THE CRACK??
[2016-01-28 03:12:45] laisee : Sell Computer?
[2016-01-28 03:13:15] GerryHYH : Hi guys, on the daily 24H contract
[2016-01-28 03:13:37] GerryHYH : the settlement fee, 0.05%, do I get charged on opening price or the settlement price?
[2016-01-28 03:14:46] zanza : settle
[2016-01-28 03:15:06] zanza : well, its done by contracts?
[2016-01-28 03:16:08] GerryHYH : ok thanks
[2016-01-28 03:16:22] GerryHYH : hmm, just checking my statement, doesn't match up hehe
[2016-01-28 03:16:32] j8 : it's true that the contracts have a different notional at a different price though. settlement price
[2016-01-28 03:16:34] elmorte : I think it's on the perceived profit/loss...
[2016-01-28 03:16:36] zanza : BitMEX_Sam: he is pretty cloppy with coding
[2016-01-28 03:16:50] zanza : sloppy, always screws up decimal places
[2016-01-28 03:16:54] zanza : j/k :)
[2016-01-28 03:16:57] BitMEX_Sam : Hey now
[2016-01-28 03:17:16] zanza : GerryHYH: im sure its right, or someone else would have noticed
[2016-01-28 03:18:01] rapidtrades : if 0.6>0.5 round it up to $1
[2016-01-28 03:18:04] rapidtrades : Sam's code
[2016-01-28 03:18:08] BitMEX_Sam : GerryHYH: If you believe there's an issue, email us at support@bitmex.com
[2016-01-28 03:18:16] BitMEX_Sam : Oftentimes the issue is just precision, make sure you're viewing `mXBT` or smaller
[2016-01-28 03:18:51] elmorte : Ooh, who snagged the 5922 @ 375.42?
[2016-01-28 03:19:01] BitMEX_Sam : Currency selection is done via the dropdown with your name on it, on the top right
[2016-01-28 03:19:13] elmorte : Or was that a forced liq?
[2016-01-28 03:20:19] elmorte : Do FLs show up in trade book?
[2016-01-28 03:21:49] elmorte : Ever feel like that kid in class no one talks to?
[2016-01-28 03:22:19] habibi : a little diffrent case but u can speak with rapidtrades
[2016-01-28 03:23:08] rapidtrades : sry too busy counting monies
[2016-01-28 03:24:51] zanza : rofl
[2016-01-28 03:25:53] elmorte : He just yells at me
[2016-01-28 03:27:11] laisee : even if its yelling
[2016-01-28 03:27:54] elmorte : *phew* emergency top cleared
[2016-01-28 03:27:56] laisee : attention is nice
[2016-01-28 03:28:09] elmorte : top *up
[2016-01-28 03:28:47] rapidtrades : is anyone watching Arthur's youtube? lol
[2016-01-28 03:28:59] elmorte : I did first few seconds
[2016-01-28 03:29:19] rapidtrades : poor guy always has his seminars during crashes :)
[2016-01-28 03:29:21] elmorte : Then my daughter started screaming so it's back to Elmo
[2016-01-28 03:29:27] lockhedge : elmorte: you can see open liquidations using this API request https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations?filter=%20%7B%22symbol%22%3A%20%22XBT24H%22%7D or here in the API explorer https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Order/Order_getCloseOutOrders
[2016-01-28 03:29:39] elmorte : lockhedge: Tq!
[2016-01-28 03:30:13] elmorte : rapidtrades: is it interactive though?
[2016-01-28 03:30:42] rapidtrades : Why are you talking to me pleb? I said I was busy
[2016-01-28 03:32:39] elmorte : lockhedge: the first link shows blank braces....but there were some just now
[2016-01-28 03:33:49] zanza : he is counting his money elmorte
[2016-01-28 03:34:03] zanza : i mean, all his brand new money from todays price action
[2016-01-28 03:34:12] zanza : more specifically
[2016-01-28 03:34:37] rapidtrades : my new monies yes, adding to my already large pile of monies
[2016-01-28 03:34:58] rapidtrades : now I have two piles of monies, one old, one new
[2016-01-28 03:35:12] laisee : elmorte: you can also subscibe to see lquidations via twitter - @RektBitmex
[2016-01-28 03:35:25] zanza : forgot about that
[2016-01-28 03:35:36] elmorte : laisee: cheers, it was more out of curiousity then piling on ppl's misery
[2016-01-28 03:36:01] elmorte : Was just curious if the counter-party transaction shows up in the trade book
[2016-01-28 03:36:15] habibi : yea, where else can it be executed
[2016-01-28 03:36:23] rapidtrades : I prolly jinxed myself now and bitcoin will revese like the little bitch that it is
[2016-01-28 03:36:26] elmorte : Because exchange has to close the position somehow
[2016-01-28 03:37:29] elmorte : Does the counter party get charged a taker fee?
[2016-01-28 03:38:06] elmorte : Or get a maker rebate?
[2016-01-28 03:38:35] zanza : elmorte: BitMEX takes over the position for a liquidation
[2016-01-28 03:38:58] zanza : its not a market order
[2016-01-28 03:42:27] kingscrown : https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/431i9u/big_vern_dropping_doge_on_us/
[2016-01-28 03:42:50] zanza : Usually BitMEX puts an order immediately to close the position, if they are not successful it will become a DPE "clawback"
[2016-01-28 03:43:07] zanza : this is for XBT, XBU is a bit differe
[2016-01-28 03:43:31] j8 : elmorte: to answer your question - the fee to close your position is included in the maintenance margin
[2016-01-28 03:43:33] BitMEX_Sam : It depends a lot on how the price moves after the order is placed, and how much buffer there is in the current position and retained buffer from other positions that have been closed without loss
[2016-01-28 03:43:43] lockhedge : *"the liquidation engine will attempt to place small limit orders to keep an account solvent ... BitMEX reserves the right to completely close out all of a trader’s open positions at the prevailing market prices at any time during a Liquidation."* https://www.bitmex.com/app/marginCall
[2016-01-28 03:45:27] laisee : elmorte: no prob. some people enjoy watching epic fails.
[2016-01-28 03:46:46] elmorte : Noted, thanks everyone!
[2016-01-28 03:47:51] elmorte : Is there a significance to diff coloured usernames? Other than admin accounts
[2016-01-28 03:50:12] j8 : significant in that they are randomly generated by fate
[2016-01-28 03:50:22] habibi : almost random, depends of hash of nickname
[2016-01-28 03:51:06] j8 : aka fate
[2016-01-28 03:53:01] rapidtrades : :(
[2016-01-28 03:53:12] rapidtrades : why are most faggy green then
[2016-01-28 03:54:19] zanza : depends on your total account value
[2016-01-28 03:54:28] zanza : and trade volume
[2016-01-28 03:54:40] habibi : coz u are green
[2016-01-28 03:54:42] BitMEX_Sam : They're just random.
[2016-01-28 03:54:57] BitMEX_Sam : Based on hashing the username and capped within a range so they display properly.
[2016-01-28 03:55:22] BitMEX_Sam : In the future we will allow posting verified stats, though - such as daily volume or pnl
[2016-01-28 03:55:31] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-01-28 03:56:17] zanza : big D club
[2016-01-28 03:58:56] rapidtrades : zanza: u short or long man
[2016-01-28 04:06:34] zanza : i am not trading Bitcoin lately
[2016-01-28 04:07:28] zanza : im short silver though
[2016-01-28 04:08:56] rapidtrades : idk, could be turning higher
[2016-01-28 04:10:03] rapidtrades : btw I just noticed that back in Novmber silver was down for 15 days in a row
[2016-01-28 04:10:25] rapidtrades : a lot were small losing days but still...15!
[2016-01-28 04:13:19] habibi : finally some bigger players
[2016-01-28 04:13:59] zanza : its traing between 13.80 and 14.50, so im playing this range
[2016-01-28 04:14:05] zanza : until it breaks
[2016-01-28 04:14:12] rapidtrades : WALLS WARS111111111
[2016-01-28 04:14:55] collin : no kidding
[2016-01-28 04:15:26] rapidtrades : takes a lot of balls to keep a bid in this type of market
[2016-01-28 04:15:39] rapidtrades : ....so it's prolly a newb
[2016-01-28 04:39:31] elmorte : he shorted it all? Oo...
[2016-01-28 06:23:57] zanza : yay silver is falling, as my short term model predicted
[2016-01-28 06:28:42] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-01-28 07:11:33] rapidtrades : bitcoin..1 hour of action for 1 week of waiting....sounds like my ex
[2016-01-28 07:12:04] habibi : maybe it wasn't problem with her...
[2016-01-28 07:15:14] rapidtrades : yeah it was
[2016-01-28 07:16:47] habibi : maybe u were rapid not only in trades...
[2016-01-28 08:31:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 94 @ 0.00648