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[2016-01-23 08:45:04] GerryHYH : Does stop loss limit order and limit order count as Maker order? :P
[2016-01-23 08:45:05] micmix : the only way to be a maker is to put an order on the orderbook
[2016-01-23 08:46:31] micmix : GerryHYH: if your limit order hits existing opposite order on the orderbook, you are a taker. doesn't matter if it was stop limit or regular limit order
[2016-01-23 08:47:00] GerryHYH : thanks micmix
[2016-01-23 08:47:09] GerryHYH : May I ask where are your server based?
[2016-01-23 08:47:21] micmix : happy to help
[2016-01-23 08:47:33] micmix : BitMEX server is hosted in Ireland
[2016-01-23 08:48:21] GerryHYH : damm, I'm from the UK, but currently in HK :(
[2016-01-23 08:48:32] GerryHYH : may have some latency issue, but should be ok
[2016-01-23 08:49:23] micmix : should be fine, BitMEX works really well
[2016-01-23 08:49:39] GerryHYH : Yeah, love the fact that you guys are actual Futures exchange
[2016-01-23 08:50:05] GerryHYH : I had a look into a Chinese 'futures' exchange, it's more like leverage trading, but no expary date
[2016-01-23 08:50:10] micmix : BTW, I'm just a trader here. Staff names start with BitMEX_
[2016-01-23 08:50:15] GerryHYH : oh
[2016-01-23 08:50:23] GerryHYH : thank you very much micmix!
[2016-01-23 08:50:28] GerryHYH : sorry sir, didn't mean to trouble you
[2016-01-23 08:51:01] micmix : no problem, I like to help, we need more ppl trading here
[2016-01-23 08:51:23] GerryHYH : i'm planning to start trading next week here :)
[2016-01-23 08:51:32] GerryHYH : it's a really good exchange here so far
[2016-01-23 08:51:37] GerryHYH : and there is no price ceiling floor and roof is there ?
[2016-01-23 08:51:45] micmix : very good and welcome :-)
[2016-01-23 08:52:22] micmix : there is a limit up and limit down on XBU7D weekly contract but not on any other contracts
[2016-01-23 08:52:36] GerryHYH : man, you know your stuff sir :3
[2016-01-23 08:52:57] GerryHYH : again, that's awesome :)
[2016-01-23 08:53:15] GerryHYH : 1 last thing I'm looking into is the 'socialized losses' that BTC exchange have a really bad name in...
[2016-01-23 08:53:26] GerryHYH : Just trying to get my head around 'Profit Adjustment'
[2016-01-23 08:53:57] micmix : I've been trading here since June I think
[2016-01-23 08:54:08] justinlooking : saved the toughest quetsion for last ;)
[2016-01-23 08:54:20] GerryHYH : haha, Hi Justin :D
[2016-01-23 08:54:36] justinlooking : yo yo welcome GerryHYH
[2016-01-23 08:55:37] micmix : yes, we had 3 or 4 days with socialized losses on XBT24H. it's called DPE here. you can read the guide: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2016-01-23 09:01:19] micmix : GerryHYH: you can check Settlement History here https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory Adjustment Rate shows socialized loss %
[2016-01-23 09:01:36] GerryHYH : Thanks micmix!
[2016-01-23 09:01:56] GerryHYH : Gosh, feel like being back at university reading all this stuff, it's a little harder to grasp unless I'm in the thick of the action :/
[2016-01-23 09:02:17] micmix : the latest one was 35% on 2015-12-16
[2016-01-23 09:02:53] micmix : you don't need to know all that to start trading, just start with like 10 contracts to check it out
[2016-01-23 09:03:53] GerryHYH : I see, thanks micmix, think I will have to read this several times to understand :(
[2016-01-23 09:04:20] GerryHYH : That's interesting, my background is Finance
[2016-01-23 09:04:41] GerryHYH : as you said, last one was on 16th December
[2016-01-23 09:04:54] GerryHYH : That's the day Fed raise interest rate from 0.25 to 0.5%
[2016-01-23 09:05:48] micmix : should be easy for you if you have finance background. the main thing to understand is isolated margin. by default isolated margin is on and with 100x leverage you can get liquidated on 0.5% move
[2016-01-23 09:06:44] micmix : you either have to switch to cross margin or add more margin to your position to avoid liquidations
[2016-01-23 09:07:17] GerryHYH : You say that! but in a 'normal' exchange, I havn't encounter socialized losses, completely new to me
[2016-01-23 09:07:53] GerryHYH : I see, ok, and obvioulsy the switch to cross margin have to be done manually?
[2016-01-23 09:08:19] micmix : when you are placing an order, there is an option to select cross margin
[2016-01-23 09:08:55] micmix : you can also switch at any time when you have open position, there is a checkbox 'isolate margin'
[2016-01-23 09:09:02] GerryHYH : ok
[2016-01-23 09:12:07] GerryHYH : micmix, can I add you on friends if there's such a function here
[2016-01-23 09:13:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 8 @ 389.57
[2016-01-23 09:13:41] micmix : GerryHYH: no friend list here unfortunately
[2016-01-23 09:14:39] micmix : if you are interested in learning more about socialized losses, please check this discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3wimu0/bitcoin_futures_exchange_bitmex_incurs_first_dpe/
[2016-01-23 09:14:55] GerryHYH : Thank you!
[2016-01-23 09:16:00] micmix : I'm monitoring the chat, just say my name 3 times if you need anything and I'll be here ;-)
[2016-01-23 09:16:45] GerryHYH : Not right now, but you been extremely help, and I'm very grateful!
[2016-01-23 09:16:50] GerryHYH : I hope to catch you around soon micmix!
[2016-01-23 09:16:54] GerryHYH : helpful*
[2016-01-23 09:17:25] micmix : thanks Gerry, and I hope you'll start trading here soon :-)
[2016-01-23 10:25:42] thehawthorne : lets see how this plays out
[2016-01-23 10:43:30] Akaiapc40 : micmix: I read your tips for @GerryHYH, really helpfull man
[2016-01-23 11:46:49] chromaticcr : lol wtf bro
[2016-01-23 11:47:16] irbbqu : Some guy shorting like a madman and trying to push finex down 30 min before settlement
[2016-01-23 11:47:19] irbbqu : dafuq
[2016-01-23 11:47:32] irbbqu : countering china
[2016-01-23 11:47:45] chromaticcr : you never beat Satr Xu
[2016-01-23 11:47:52] chromaticcr : he got infinity coins
[2016-01-23 11:48:23] chromaticcr : and his impact is decreasing over time
[2016-01-23 11:48:32] chromaticcr : coz the cont. is TWAP
[2016-01-23 11:49:21] irbbqu : Prolly fighting for the 4h close
[2016-01-23 11:50:43] chromaticcr : fight for the profit of my posions. HIT ME! HIT MY ORDERS!
[2016-01-23 11:51:47] irbbqu : Im maxed out :(
[2016-01-23 11:52:11] chromaticcr : I still got like 40x wiggle room
[2016-01-23 12:00:58] chromaticcr : cha-ching!
[2016-01-23 12:36:04] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 30 @ 388.44
[2016-01-23 12:38:04] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2 @ 387.41 :punch: :whale:
[2016-01-23 12:48:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 760 @ 385.68
[2016-01-23 12:48:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 30 @ 385.46
[2016-01-23 13:05:54] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 635 @ 385.94
[2016-01-23 13:10:04] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 13 @ 381.49
[2016-01-23 13:24:05] rapidtrades : sup homies
[2016-01-23 13:26:40] j8 : hey dude
[2016-01-23 13:27:02] habibi : jude*
[2016-01-23 13:27:31] rapidtrades : antisemitism isn't funny, dude
[2016-01-23 13:27:56] habibi : ofc it is
[2016-01-23 13:28:00] j8 : paul mccartney bit his tongue
[2016-01-23 14:31:53] rapidtrades : wtf....what the hell is with the spread on weekly
[2016-01-23 14:32:17] rapidtrades : $18...RealLLy?
[2016-01-23 15:36:24] thehawthorne : lol
[2016-01-23 15:36:27] thehawthorne : that premium
[2016-01-23 15:56:46] justinlooking : calling m16 offers
[2016-01-23 15:59:29] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 6883 @ 386.51
[2016-01-23 16:00:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 750 @ 388.64
[2016-01-23 16:01:59] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1823 @ 391.85
[2016-01-23 16:02:22] sleger : justinlooking: any news ?
[2016-01-23 16:02:46] justinlooking : not that i'm aware of
[2016-01-23 16:03:29] sleger : the m16 offers of the bot arent good enough ? the spread is ok i think
[2016-01-23 16:51:40] justinlooking : there's inteerest ;) i'll give u a shout when ready
[2016-01-23 17:49:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1100 @ 388.28
[2016-01-23 17:49:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 16068 @ 387.62 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-01-23 17:50:03] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-01-23 17:50:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 322 @ 387.25
[2016-01-23 17:50:41] thehawthorne : lol
[2016-01-23 18:46:53] djuan : hey guys. hope you're doing well trading bitcoin. what do you think of this idea?https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/N8vYcR9U-Maybe-more-accurate/
[2016-01-23 18:52:34] sleger : charts analysis dont work
[2016-01-23 18:53:09] thehawthorne : positive
[2016-01-23 18:53:16] djuan : how do you trade @sleger ?
[2016-01-23 18:53:29] djuan : price action?
[2016-01-23 18:53:46] irbbqu : Institutional style
[2016-01-23 18:53:56] justinlooking : good 'ol gut
[2016-01-23 18:54:22] thehawthorne : well, guess its sell high buy low
[2016-01-23 18:54:42] rapidtrades : let him talk jeez
[2016-01-23 18:55:37] djuan : well i made this a couple of hours ago. and so far its on track. I'm going to short at the top of the right triangle if it pans out
[2016-01-23 18:56:29] djuan : chart analysis my not work all the time I'm sure it might some of the time though.
[2016-01-23 18:57:56] rapidtrades : well he's not talking...carry on
[2016-01-23 19:18:40] rapidtrades : goddam what a boring day
[2016-01-23 19:53:29] jung1 : https://poloniex.com/marginTrading#btc_eth going back to 0.09
[2016-01-23 19:53:37] jung1 : even higher
[2016-01-23 19:55:05] djuan : jung1: i missed the boat so I'm going to short when it dumps
[2016-01-23 20:02:07] jung1 : I have some eth in cold wallet as a long term investment
[2016-01-23 20:02:29] jung1 : still quite cheap imo
[2016-01-23 20:02:39] jung1 : btw market cap hit 130mln
[2016-01-23 20:10:30] djuan : I'm gutted that i changed my etc into bitcoin before the pump ?
[2016-01-23 20:11:41] djuan : but hopefully my REP will turn out to be a good investment. After i missed the ETH crowdsale I made sure to take part in Augur.
[2016-01-23 20:12:59] jung1 : yep
[2016-01-23 20:14:20] jung1 : factom is 6x more expensive than month ago
[2016-01-23 20:14:32] jung1 : and still growwing
[2016-01-23 20:29:51] jung1 : proti: short monero https://poloniex.com/marginTrading#btc_xmr
[2016-01-23 20:38:48] sleger : short everything on polo
[2016-01-23 20:43:06] jung1 : but basicly first 6 coins on https://poloniex.com/marginTrading looks like ready to explode
[2016-01-23 21:19:22] zanza : maybe Germany can do this ? http://www.globalpost.com/article/6723725/2016/01/22/japan-accepts-27-refugees-last-year-rejects-99
[2016-01-23 21:24:06] jung1 : too late
[2016-01-23 21:24:16] jung1 : germany will destroy ue
[2016-01-23 21:24:30] jung1 : no shengen anymore
[2016-01-23 21:24:33] jung1 : etc
[2016-01-23 21:35:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 103 @ 390.88
[2016-01-23 21:37:11] djuan : short 399
[2016-01-23 21:42:30] zanza : RIP
[2016-01-23 22:49:58] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-23/austria-refugees-learn-speak-german-or-get-no-money
[2016-01-23 23:02:12] rapidtrades : we had some many nice opportunitties yday..discount then premium...today F*CKALL
[2016-01-23 23:03:30] rapidtrades : Just F*CKING sitting here with my dick waving in the desert....like the American army outside Baghdad in GW1
[2016-01-23 23:26:48] jesperf : gently caressing would be a better term if you're going to be talking about your genitals
[2016-01-23 23:38:18] sleger : someone is buying a ton here
[2016-01-23 23:39:46] sleger : I know because i just sold a lot against, probably 40k lots worth
[2016-01-23 23:40:44] drizzyjoe : short
[2016-01-23 23:40:53] drizzyjoe : dont go long, would be a big mistake
[2016-01-23 23:41:09] sleger : maybe you should read again
[2016-01-23 23:41:21] drizzyjoe : im just saying for the general consencus
[2016-01-23 23:41:27] sleger : ok
[2016-01-23 23:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 250 @ 388.34
[2016-01-23 23:42:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 660 @ 386.53
[2016-01-23 23:42:33] sleger : someone bought my 40k offer in one shot nice
[2016-01-23 23:42:47] drizzyjoe : get rekt
[2016-01-23 23:43:33] sleger : sorry, cant happen
[2016-01-23 23:43:57] rapidtrades : wtf mate...i can't get 500 filled at a clip
[2016-01-23 23:44:09] sleger : thats because u dont have bakls
[2016-01-23 23:44:14] sleger : and dont call me mate
[2016-01-23 23:44:21] sleger : i have a new name this week ...
[2016-01-23 23:44:33] rapidtrades : what are ''bakls'' mate
[2016-01-23 23:44:34] drizzyjoe : 7pm will be blood bath
[2016-01-23 23:44:51] rapidtrades : nothing will happen at 7pm joe...ffs
[2016-01-23 23:45:54] habibi : sleger the most inteligent person in the world.. sleger world! <3
[2016-01-23 23:47:17] sleger : rapidtrades: meant balls sorry, been drinking champ, but you're not supposed to call me mate
[2016-01-23 23:59:07] rapidtrades : why not mate
[2016-01-24 00:20:01] sleger : because you're supposed to call me master sledger
[2016-01-24 01:02:04] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 12388 @ 389.25
[2016-01-24 01:03:05] rapidtrades : sleger: i didn't check chat logs, was too busy on Friday...what's the link and the position of ur comment
[2016-01-24 01:03:29] sleger : again ? i think 95000 and within next 500
[2016-01-24 01:03:56] sleger : but someone else confirmed
[2016-01-24 01:49:30] rapidtrades : what's the chat api link
[2016-01-24 02:02:18] sleger : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Chat/Chat_get
[2016-01-24 02:02:29] sleger : my parameters are not correct though
[2016-01-24 02:16:48] sleger : rapidtrades: { "id": 99814, "date": "2016-01-21T12:46:30.665Z", "user": "sleger", "message": "I dont know, I was long a lot before hearn, I kept and took almost all out at 420 12 hours ago", "html": "I dont know, I was long a lot before hearn, I kept and took almost all out at 420 12 hours ago\n", "fromBot": false },
[2016-01-24 02:19:42] habibi : bot says its false
[2016-01-24 02:19:49] habibi : :>
[2016-01-24 02:29:46] sleger : habibi: fromBot : habibi IQ < 90
[2016-01-24 02:31:23] habibi : for such inteligente u says u have, u have big problems with understanding irony
[2016-01-24 02:32:26] sleger : That was humour
[2016-01-24 04:09:21] chromaticcr : btc is lending at 0.16% on pol
[2016-01-24 04:16:18] j8 : ether longs would pay more than that
[2016-01-24 04:21:45] j8 : it should probably be higher, lenders take all the risk of defaults on polo, and your btc are used to long random alts.. the risk is high imho
[2016-01-24 04:27:41] rapidtrades : wtf is polo
[2016-01-24 04:27:54] j8 : poloniex
[2016-01-24 04:35:38] arbitrage001 : just check pol
[2016-01-24 04:35:49] arbitrage001 : no btc loan demand
[2016-01-24 04:38:54] j8 : probably because people just hit margin buy without checking the rates. there's definitely demand since the rate is high
[2016-01-24 04:39:50] j8 : i mean, it's all small time, only around 100 btc loan offers
[2016-01-24 04:46:27] zanza : Core slack is fun :)
[2016-01-24 04:47:06] zanza : https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000038503620631d260165c351bd5da432524cf6ab4d98f1418
[2016-01-24 04:51:23] habibi : yea yea about 7000-8000 moved like 80 times in one block
[2016-01-24 04:57:58] zanza : 800x
[2016-01-24 04:58:10] habibi : right :p
[2016-01-24 04:58:14] zanza : i dont really understand it
[2016-01-24 06:48:10] zanza : :o
[2016-01-24 09:29:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 5000 @ 389.94
[2016-01-24 09:29:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 80 @ 389.82
[2016-01-24 09:31:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 44716 @ 391.16 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-01-24 09:32:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1901 @ 395.16
[2016-01-24 09:33:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 193 @ 399.35
[2016-01-24 09:33:00] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-01-24 09:33:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 11998 @ 400.00
[2016-01-24 09:33:12] wspbtc : rekt rekt rekt
[2016-01-24 09:33:39] mdrn : Mobile version TOTALLY sucks
[2016-01-24 09:36:41] macios15 : next erektion
[2016-01-24 09:36:48] wspbtc : more rekt incoming
[2016-01-24 09:37:30] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 544 @ 400.66
[2016-01-24 09:39:50] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 120 @ 398.52
[2016-01-24 09:56:54] thehawthorne : say hello 404
[2016-01-24 09:58:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 50 @ 399.84
[2016-01-24 09:59:11] thehawthorne : there is still discount.. LOL
[2016-01-24 09:59:20] Strobelov : ouch to the 44k that got liquidated
[2016-01-24 10:04:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 398.03
[2016-01-24 10:18:29] macios15 : never ending rekt story
[2016-01-24 10:18:30] macios15 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DT7bX-B1Mg
[2016-01-24 10:22:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 500 @ 399.86
[2016-01-24 10:29:23] thehawthorne : dem swings
[2016-01-24 11:23:58] chromaticcr : dpe 0, liquidated order still here....
[2016-01-24 11:25:02] habibi : yea interesing
[2016-01-24 11:26:23] chromaticcr : i guess we got some chage from the other liquidated orders
[2016-01-24 11:26:58] chromaticcr : pennies add up, like the woodchipper from okc, just that they are a bit more effective and deadly over at okcrap
[2016-01-24 11:27:03] chrisxbt : hmm 0.17%
[2016-01-24 11:55:51] habibi : saves ur fees
[2016-01-24 11:59:37] habibi : i know u are on loss but still u can save few more bucks gent
[2016-01-24 12:30:15] justinlooking : stops are for buses
[2016-01-24 13:46:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 100 @ 399.96
[2016-01-24 13:47:05] djuan : happy short day everybody. lets make some money
[2016-01-24 14:13:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1820 @ 399.03
[2016-01-24 14:13:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1000 @ 399.39
[2016-01-24 14:47:59] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 50 @ 401.05
[2016-01-24 14:48:03] chromaticcr : ETH poppin'
[2016-01-24 14:48:35] Strobelov : eh crap
[2016-01-24 14:52:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 954 @ 402.41
[2016-01-24 14:58:10] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 7338 @ 403.69
[2016-01-24 14:58:29] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 3274 @ 403.96
[2016-01-24 15:03:10] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1000 @ 405.01
[2016-01-24 15:10:04] drizzyjoe : what is going on
[2016-01-24 15:10:12] habibi : typical day
[2016-01-24 15:10:14] drizzyjoe : why is this trading $3 over spot?????
[2016-01-24 15:10:20] habibi : so called premium
[2016-01-24 15:10:31] habibi : sleger is scared to dump after yesteray
[2016-01-24 15:10:34] drizzyjoe : it was under spot just last night lol
[2016-01-24 15:10:40] habibi : and someone other was fomo buying
[2016-01-24 15:10:48] chromaticcr : poppin you lill' shorts
[2016-01-24 15:10:56] drizzyjoe : people who shorted at 406 while spot was at 401.. what a blessing lol
[2016-01-24 15:11:14] chromaticcr : caught 405.55 only
[2016-01-24 15:11:30] irbbqu : -7777 406.72 -7777
[2016-01-24 15:11:30] habibi : 405 cought as well
[2016-01-24 15:11:41] habibi : but u never know :)
[2016-01-24 15:11:46] habibi : can be still bull run
[2016-01-24 15:11:58] chromaticcr : hedge urself
[2016-01-24 15:12:19] drizzyjoe : it could but chart is saying otherwise
[2016-01-24 15:18:38] habibi : i am thinking about dumping into that 60k
[2016-01-24 15:19:00] drizzyjoe : habibi: hes asking for it lol
[2016-01-24 15:19:45] chromaticcr : would be a great move if you can back it with some okc fut
[2016-01-24 15:19:56] chromaticcr : need like 1000 cont overthere to hedge this
[2016-01-24 15:20:19] drizzyjoe : that 404 looks too good to resist
[2016-01-24 15:20:47] chromaticcr : for the gamma, as long as btc stay within 325-480, it will be in the green
[2016-01-24 15:24:07] chromaticcr : oh 385-430* read the wrong col.
[2016-01-24 15:24:33] dorothy490 : hmm
[2016-01-24 15:24:38] dorothy490 : someone puked?
[2016-01-24 15:24:39] sleger : oops
[2016-01-24 15:24:43] chromaticcr : why in multiples of 2175 -_-
[2016-01-24 15:24:46] sleger : put one zero too much :)
[2016-01-24 15:24:58] dorothy490 : ADMIIIINS
[2016-01-24 15:25:18] drizzyjoe : thanks 404 :)
[2016-01-24 15:26:04] sleger : i had a 404 limit price anyways, i wanted to selll 20k not 200
[2016-01-24 15:26:16] habibi : and how much u sold?
[2016-01-24 15:26:20] habibi : about 60k or more :p?
[2016-01-24 15:26:41] sleger : 63
[2016-01-24 15:27:26] BombaUcigasa : 404 price not found
[2016-01-24 15:27:31] sleger : i would probably have sold more than 20k anyways, so all good
[2016-01-24 15:27:36] Akaiapc40 : BombaUcigasa: lol
[2016-01-24 15:27:47] amahte : trololol
[2016-01-24 15:28:03] dorothy490 : admins why there is portions of 2175 and not whole order? glitching?
[2016-01-24 15:28:27] sleger : because the large order was many 2175 together
[2016-01-24 15:28:55] drizzyjoe : bring this back down to earth..
[2016-01-24 15:28:59] dorothy490 : hm.. why it was many of 2175 then?
[2016-01-24 15:29:02] habibi : dorothy490: its a conspiracy theory! wont tell u anything more about it but its connected with rapid-trades
[2016-01-24 15:29:18] sleger : dorothy490: because the guy pressed the keys 2, 1, 7 and 5
[2016-01-24 15:29:24] chromaticcr : try 1337 next time
[2016-01-24 15:29:39] habibi : sleger: i think it was bot job btw coz we saw whole order at once
[2016-01-24 15:30:27] chromaticcr : now we got 18k on 403
[2016-01-24 15:43:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 50 @ 402.94
[2016-01-24 15:48:37] habibi : marketmakers, u are needed at 7d. the mm one is there atm is pretty fucked up
[2016-01-24 15:50:42] habibi : everyone
[2016-01-24 15:50:48] habibi : put out ur bids from 24h
[2016-01-24 15:50:54] habibi : lets see if we can see 395 or sth :)
[2016-01-24 15:51:29] Akaiapc40 : habibi: lol why?
[2016-01-24 15:51:43] habibi : just to scary longers
[2016-01-24 15:51:47] drizzyjoe : Akaiapc40: so he can get all the cheap coins lol
[2016-01-24 15:51:54] Akaiapc40 : ahahahhaha
[2016-01-24 15:52:01] habibi : drizzyjoe: lel so hard to put limit order right?
[2016-01-24 15:52:02] 420WhaleIt : cuz its fun
[2016-01-24 15:52:08] Akaiapc40 : habibi: whats about scary shorters?
[2016-01-24 15:52:28] habibi : shorting with 4-5 dollars premium? hard to scary them :)
[2016-01-24 15:53:24] chromaticcr : who cares about fee (of 0.075% ~= 0.3USD) when you got 4$ premium!
[2016-01-24 15:54:26] habibi : rapidtrades do! he cares about everything but not about potential profit
[2016-01-24 15:54:57] Akaiapc40 : lol bots in action
[2016-01-24 16:01:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 18540 @ 406.02 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-01-24 16:01:58] drizzyjoe : fuck you
[2016-01-24 16:01:59] drizzyjoe : fuck this
[2016-01-24 16:02:02] habibi : wooow <#
[2016-01-24 16:02:07] drizzyjoe : fuck fukck fcuk]
[2016-01-24 16:02:10] drizzyjoe : fuck fcuk fcu
[2016-01-24 16:02:13] chromaticcr : lol
[2016-01-24 16:02:13] drizzyjoe : this shit is fucked
[2016-01-24 16:02:14] 420WhaleIt : thats a nice rekt
[2016-01-24 16:02:20] habibi : drizzyjoe: <3
[2016-01-24 16:02:26] drizzyjoe : i mout
[2016-01-24 16:02:30] drizzyjoe : fuck this shit
[2016-01-24 16:03:03] chromaticcr : * importance of hedging *
[2016-01-24 16:03:21] chrisxbt : did that 30k order get eaten?
[2016-01-24 16:03:26] chromaticcr : yes
[2016-01-24 16:03:35] chromaticcr : 28750@408.64
[2016-01-24 16:03:40] chromaticcr : 38750*
[2016-01-24 16:04:02] chrisxbt : hmm my chart didn't show volume
[2016-01-24 16:04:53] chromaticcr : the chart is stupid... wont be useful for realtime updated data
[2016-01-24 16:05:51] justinlooking : where's stop djuan? bla
[2016-01-24 16:06:08] justinlooking : blaze it
[2016-01-24 16:18:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 772 @ 405.29
[2016-01-24 16:19:41] djuan : aaaaaaaaand short
[2016-01-24 16:19:55] 420WhaleIt : Haha, this is going doooown :D
[2016-01-24 16:20:10] chromaticcr : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-01-24 16:20:20] djuan : all the way to 300
[2016-01-24 16:20:33] habibi : 400?"
[2016-01-24 16:21:02] 420WhaleIt : i think 400 is a better aproximation, yes :P
[2016-01-24 16:21:06] djuan : over all i mean. not right away
[2016-01-24 16:21:49] djuan : 7D and M16 shorts for me
[2016-01-24 16:22:10] chromaticcr : for god sake stay at 400 and _uck my gamma exposure
[2016-01-24 17:06:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 338 @ 402.60
[2016-01-24 17:35:45] rapidtrades : how's it going fellas?
[2016-01-24 17:37:35] rapidtrades : finex is literally cancel
[2016-01-24 17:37:39] rapidtrades : cancer**********
[2016-01-24 17:37:43] rapidtrades : fufufufufuufufuufufuufufufu
[2016-01-24 17:39:19] sleger : basically all exchanges suck you're saying ?
[2016-01-24 17:40:02] sleger : rapidtrades: { "id": 99814, "date": "2016-01-21T12:46:30.665Z", "user": "sleger", "message": "I dont know, I was long a lot before hearn, I kept and took almost all out at 420 12 hours ago", "html": "I dont know, I was long a lot before hearn, I kept and took almost all out at 420 12 hours ago\n", "fromBot": false },
[2016-01-24 17:41:37] rapidtrades : no but finex is some laggyass faggyass exchange with 0 common sense
[2016-01-24 17:42:39] sleger : I honestly almost never have problem with it when i trade by hand
[2016-01-24 17:43:32] j8 : i've had some issues with it, as soon as volume picks up
[2016-01-24 17:44:47] j8 : sometimes when you click to place or cancel an order there's no indication if it did anything for a few seconds
[2016-01-24 17:45:48] j8 : and sometimes orders fill but my position doesn't update
[2016-01-24 17:45:52] rapidtrades : exactly what ahppened to me
[2016-01-24 17:46:21] rapidtrades : 10+ secs after I click cancel and replace it says FILLEd and order can't be cancelled...like wtf
[2016-01-24 17:46:32] rapidtrades : 10 fuckkking secs
[2016-01-24 17:47:02] rapidtrades : it only cost me 0.22 but still..FU
[2016-01-24 17:52:46] sleger : oh ok that does happen indeed BUT
[2016-01-24 17:53:00] sleger : you can see the fills if you listen to the API or on bitcoinwisdom for instance
[2016-01-24 17:53:12] sleger : I place the orders on finex but look at the market somewhere else
[2016-01-24 18:07:45] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 5 @ 405.69
[2016-01-24 19:37:50] djuan : oh my. seems I'm fucked
[2016-01-24 19:38:34] djuan : not yet but it seems that way
[2016-01-24 19:47:32] thehawthorne : RSI says down but we will see
[2016-01-24 20:03:54] djuan : thehawthorne: i hope so. I'm starting to lose the will to trade. but then a little voice inside me says "don't give up" but then another voice says "you will never understand trading" but then another voice which isn't really a voice. its more like an observer says without speaking "neither of you two are real, I am the one who is attempting this trading malarky. And this bickering is distracting. Vigilance and Patience is required"
[2016-01-24 20:03:54] djuan : then i have a cup of tea, and everything is ok again
[2016-01-24 20:18:11] sleger : RSI is wrong
[2016-01-24 20:18:26] thehawthorne : maybe thats the case
[2016-01-24 20:18:37] thehawthorne : will play out this asian session
[2016-01-24 20:25:26] sleger : I was half long, going flat again (405)
[2016-01-24 20:29:05] lockhedge : sleger: any idea where the main market maker on 24H went? wasn't that yours?
[2016-01-24 20:29:37] thehawthorne : im also nearly flat, don't want to get fucked up by at this crossroads
[2016-01-24 20:30:07] thehawthorne : ill enter when market moves either direction, better take less profit than loose money actually
[2016-01-24 20:35:48] dorothy490 : where is market makerssss
[2016-01-24 20:35:50] djuan : RSI hey? thats handy. Is it usually correct a descent amount of the time? @thehawthorne
[2016-01-24 20:36:14] thehawthorne : it can't be correct or incorrect
[2016-01-24 20:36:19] thehawthorne : its just an oscillator
[2016-01-24 20:36:27] thehawthorne : but there can be a divergence
[2016-01-24 20:36:38] thehawthorne : e.g. market makes new highs but rsi does not
[2016-01-24 20:37:09] thehawthorne : that would be a signal price "wants" to look stronger than it actually is
[2016-01-24 20:37:46] tscha : lockhedge: my bot has been down since friday night
[2016-01-24 20:37:46] thehawthorne : but thats just a signal, it can give you an idea when a market is overbought / oversold
[2016-01-24 20:37:54] thehawthorne : but never rely your trades on that
[2016-01-24 20:39:22] djuan : Just watched a tutorial by coinigy on youtube. I don't fully understand it yet. But its a useful tool I take it? to be used with many others before making a decision
[2016-01-24 20:41:59] thehawthorne : it may be an useful tool but as i already mentioned, i don't think chart analysis works for bitcoin market analysis, especially not for futures. but rsi can give you a glimpse / lend you a hand if you want to determine whether price is likely going to move in the near future or not. thats my experience
[2016-01-24 20:42:00] lockhedge : tscha: was actually wondering where 6000 bot went, but it's quoting relatively competitive prices again now. what happened to yours?
[2016-01-24 20:43:34] tscha : lockhedge: wasn't really busy over the weekend and not at home, not able to check if anything runs smoothly, so I shut it down temporarily
[2016-01-24 20:43:49] djuan : thehawthorne: So bitcoin is pure gambling then? Would these tools work better in forex markets?
[2016-01-24 20:46:29] j8 : probably worse since forex markets are extremely efficient. there are no simple strategies that work consistently, because if there were, someone else would be doing it better than you until there is no opportunity there
[2016-01-24 20:49:07] djuan : How does one become successful in trading? Luck? @j8
[2016-01-24 20:49:08] j8 : bitcoin has a lot of amateur traders who probably follow stuff like that. and there's very little fundamentals involved in the day to day movements
[2016-01-24 20:49:32] j8 : djuan: risk management is probably #1
[2016-01-24 20:49:48] j8 : first step is to not lose money
[2016-01-24 20:50:38] j8 : all those indicators are helpful for some people to form a picture of the market
[2016-01-24 20:52:04] habibi : tscha: urs mm at 7d?
[2016-01-24 20:52:09] djuan : j8: so far not so good. I think Ill focus most of my attention on risk management this week. Learn how to manage risk.
[2016-01-24 20:53:23] djuan : thanks for the insight guys @j8 @thehawthorne it helped
[2016-01-24 20:53:52] j8 : yeah, always gotta keep some spare capital or you miss out on opportunities / get forced out of position
[2016-01-24 20:54:49] djuan : Got any reading or video suggestions for learning how to manage risk?
[2016-01-24 20:55:12] thehawthorne : learning by doing
[2016-01-24 20:55:20] thehawthorne : start with contract size 10
[2016-01-24 20:55:22] thehawthorne : or 5
[2016-01-24 20:55:46] djuan : ok
[2016-01-24 20:56:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 403.76
[2016-01-24 20:58:35] thehawthorne : also i would not recommend to go above 15-20x leverage, and if you do so only take small positions
[2016-01-24 21:02:00] djuan : I only use bitmex for trading. but see where you're coming from. Ill stick to the 7D and M16
[2016-01-24 21:02:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 100 @ 405.35
[2016-01-24 21:03:50] lockhedge : djuan: did you watch Arthur's webinars and played with his excel sheets?
[2016-01-24 21:05:23] djuan : No I only saw the first one. A lot of that stuff goes over my head. But that won't stop me. Im going to watch them this week for sure.
[2016-01-24 21:09:59] HowDoge : no offense but if its going over your head then your gambling
[2016-01-24 21:11:19] djuan : Well mate. Im brand new. Only been at it a month. I know more now then i did when i started. so I'm getting there one step at a time
[2016-01-24 21:14:44] thehawthorne : The more people approach to bitcoin and trough that approach maybe to trading bitcoin as well, the better for bitcoin price. but for your own convenience it may be better to not deposit too much money before you have an idea of what you are going to do ;p
[2016-01-24 21:15:44] HowDoge : I was in a similar position as you about a month ago. If you dont understand the videos then its highly worth watching them over until you start to understand what your doing and how to manage risk. I wish you the best of luck !
[2016-01-24 21:18:03] jung1 : damn look at eth
[2016-01-24 21:18:46] tscha : lockhedge: is the finex websocket working fine for you?
[2016-01-24 21:19:54] j8 : tscha: working for me
[2016-01-24 21:20:50] tscha : interesting, I can't connect anymore, and for cryptowat.ch it seems to be down too
[2016-01-24 21:21:11] djuan : The bitmex videos and rates and stuff go over my head (the first one anyway). but i grasp videos by forex traders who explained price action and technical analysis. Understanding how to intemperate candles and such. I love it. I should really be playing smaller amounts thats true. Thanks guys. Ima keep at it. Have a good night.
[2016-01-24 21:21:52] djuan : interpret*
[2016-01-24 21:22:05] tscha : djuan: forget the videos you saw about technical analysis at forex
[2016-01-24 21:22:25] tscha : you can't make money with simple chart analysis on forex
[2016-01-24 21:22:45] tscha : at least not for the popular pairs
[2016-01-24 21:22:55] djuan : tscha: How can you make money then?
[2016-01-24 21:24:21] tscha : On forex, you can't make money as an amateur trader reading charts, the market is too efficient for that. You are most likely better off reading some introductional finance books then watching youtube videos by scam-traders trying to get referrals
[2016-01-24 21:26:36] lockhedge : tscha: i only use REST at the moment, works fine, not more errors than usually for finex
[2016-01-24 21:31:39] lockhedge : djuan: Paul Wilmott on technical analysis: "Just drawing a couple of lines on your chart, job done" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbbPN-Qi37g#t=500 (timecode set at 8:20)
[2016-01-24 21:36:01] tscha : lockhedge: haha... i like wilmott
[2016-01-24 21:47:09] djuan : lockhedge: interesting. thanks for sharing
[2016-01-24 21:49:13] jung1 : so whats your bets? we will stay above 400?
[2016-01-24 21:51:35] lockhedge : jung1: stay until when?
[2016-01-24 21:51:52] jung1 : moon
[2016-01-24 21:52:01] jung1 : hehe
[2016-01-24 21:52:30] jung1 : couse Im thinking about move some coins into factom and eth after drop
[2016-01-24 21:52:46] jung1 : eth looks like is ready for new ath
[2016-01-24 21:52:55] jung1 : in one month from now
[2016-01-24 21:55:25] jung1 : and afctom multiply value 6x since december
[2016-01-24 22:40:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 575 @ 405.56
[2016-01-24 23:32:01] rapidtrades : what's with this tiny ass premium
[2016-01-24 23:33:24] sleger : isnt 2$ the average premium ?
[2016-01-24 23:33:43] rapidtrades : average? like over what time period
[2016-01-24 23:33:56] rapidtrades : lately it was 0-1
[2016-01-24 23:36:18] sleger : so 2 is not tiny
[2016-01-24 23:37:11] rapidtrades : it's too tiny to sell for me :)
[2016-01-24 23:38:30] habibi : rapidtrades: so funny ! :D
[2016-01-24 23:38:38] zanza : :D
[2016-01-24 23:55:02] rapidtrades : well premium's gone to absolute shite now
[2016-01-25 00:02:07] rapidtrades : what else can I short? here's my list: LTC,ETH,PPC,NMC
[2016-01-25 00:03:07] rapidtrades : other small alts are usually buy only...not very good for my strat
[2016-01-25 00:08:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2305 @ 402.42
[2016-01-25 00:11:33] jesperf : premium is strong with this one
[2016-01-25 00:20:30] zanza : short Yuan rapidtrades
[2016-01-25 00:21:40] rapidtrades : it's on my watch list
[2016-01-25 00:22:39] rapidtrades : need to see it starting to weaken again tho
[2016-01-25 00:23:19] rapidtrades : finally got short some premium btw...small arb
[2016-01-25 00:25:46] rapidtrades : finex has gone completely to shit
[2016-01-25 00:26:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 929 @ 401.80
[2016-01-25 00:26:15] rapidtrades : or is it :finex has completely gone to shit
[2016-01-25 00:27:59] tscha : j8: I wrote a support mail to Finex about websocket, they answered 5 minutes later asking me if the issues is resolved now and indeed, it is working since then. So there seems to have been an issues. Cryptowat.ch is working fine again too now after my mail.
[2016-01-25 00:29:03] rapidtrades : and now it logged me out....nie work
[2016-01-25 00:29:04] tscha : j8: Before that I checked with http://www.websocket.org/echo.html though and it was working fine (as you said). Maybe an issue with specific clients, no clue.
[2016-01-25 00:29:14] j8 : i see, i was watching a feed of the orderbook at the time, wasn't watching trades, maybe there was a problem there
[2016-01-25 00:30:18] tscha : I couldn't connect at all, server just didn't even respond. With http://www.websocket.org/echo.html everything worked fine, pretty strange.
[2016-01-25 00:30:24] rapidtrades : it's partly my fault, running on a laptop but all other trading sites work mostly ok...the only major lag is on finex and AFTER they ''updated'' their interface
[2016-01-25 00:30:29] rapidtrades : so F*ck em
[2016-01-25 00:31:15] rapidtrades : I asked to offer a page with the old interface but NO...for some reason they have to force everyone to use the new...c*nts
[2016-01-25 00:32:35] rapidtrades : the spread and liqidity suck on ETH futures btw...any other options to trade besides here
[2016-01-25 00:33:16] j8 : not futures as far as i know
[2016-01-25 00:33:40] rapidtrades : or any two-sided market is fine?
[2016-01-25 00:33:47] rapidtrades : if i can borrow to short
[2016-01-25 00:33:55] j8 : poloniex
[2016-01-25 00:34:02] j8 : is where all the action is
[2016-01-25 00:35:21] j8 : the interest rates are high but it doesn't really matter for a short term play on alts
[2016-01-25 00:40:40] rapidtrades : how high? I usually trade daily charts
[2016-01-25 00:41:22] j8 : yesterday i saw 0.14% a day for btc
[2016-01-25 00:41:36] j8 : today it's like 0.2%
[2016-01-25 00:41:57] j8 : eth is 0.13% since you want to short
[2016-01-25 00:42:20] rapidtrades : ah ok..
[2016-01-25 00:43:18] rapidtrades : it will be really difficult to make money with those rates
[2016-01-25 00:43:39] j8 : the volatility is so high that it's not a big deal i'd imagine
[2016-01-25 00:44:16] j8 : unless you want to hold a short for a long time
[2016-01-25 00:45:06] rapidtrades : i guess it wouldn't be as bad cos u can long with no interest
[2016-01-25 00:45:34] rapidtrades : is it btc or usd based pair
[2016-01-25 00:45:38] j8 : btc
[2016-01-25 00:50:36] j8 : those alts move like 10% on a slow day though, i don't think 0.1% a day will kill your profit if you have a good trade
[2016-01-25 01:07:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2999 @ 398.86
[2016-01-25 01:10:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 150 @ 398.10
[2016-01-25 01:11:37] rapidtrades : j8: what are the trade fees on poli
[2016-01-25 01:11:44] j8 : 0.25%
[2016-01-25 01:11:51] rapidtrades : per side?
[2016-01-25 01:12:23] rapidtrades : so 0.5% to open/close?
[2016-01-25 01:13:07] j8 : yeah
[2016-01-25 01:13:15] rapidtrades : ok tnx man
[2016-01-25 01:13:28] j8 : np
[2016-01-25 03:40:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 400 @ 398.93
[2016-01-25 05:22:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 101 @ 398.79
[2016-01-25 07:17:58] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 30 @ 401.71
[2016-01-25 09:43:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 80 @ 399.93
[2016-01-25 11:13:31] thehawthorne : that bot action lol
[2016-01-25 11:14:06] rapidtrades : :) easy $$$$
[2016-01-25 11:15:32] thehawthorne : push it to the limit dadaddaa
[2016-01-25 11:17:48] rapidtrades : smone is desperate :)
[2016-01-25 11:19:09] thehawthorne : maybe long 400 °_°
[2016-01-25 11:28:19] rapidtrades : I fell like he's gonna PANIK buy ONE MORE TIME
[2016-01-25 12:09:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.01
[2016-01-25 12:11:37] rapidtrades : lol @eth
[2016-01-25 12:11:54] chromaticcr : when will eth pop... hmmm~
[2016-01-25 12:12:16] Akaiapc40 : Eth over 620K on polo
[2016-01-25 12:12:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.01
[2016-01-25 12:12:39] rapidtrades : IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!11111111111111
[2016-01-25 12:12:42] chromaticcr : Looks like Litecoin in June last year
[2016-01-25 12:12:54] rapidtrades : lol @u
[2016-01-25 12:12:59] chromaticcr : dpe @eth
[2016-01-25 12:13:11] rapidtrades : niceee
[2016-01-25 12:13:38] j8 : rekt bot needs more decimal places for eth i thnk