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[2016-01-21 21:05:14] zanza : It may not even be that complicated, it could be like, stop giving social programs money to people coming in. This will send the message that Germany cannot support them anymore
[2016-01-21 21:05:15] tscha : they are not refugees... >80% are not even from syria
[2016-01-21 21:05:29] rapidtrades : the majority are indeed from Syria
[2016-01-21 21:05:38] tscha : rapidtrades: no
[2016-01-21 21:05:40] habibi : yep, and soros that u guys love so much is kind of guy " accept every single one! "...
[2016-01-21 21:05:45] zanza : stop giving free money/food/handouts etc
[2016-01-21 21:05:59] habibi : rapidtrades: u couldnt be wrong more.
[2016-01-21 21:06:14] rapidtrades : if u say that means I'm righ
[2016-01-21 21:06:21] rapidtrades : *t
[2016-01-21 21:06:28] zanza : lol :0
[2016-01-21 21:08:16] tscha : rapid inverse indicator is not only valid for bitcoin price
[2016-01-21 21:08:43] zanza : I think Norway deports Refugees :)
[2016-01-21 21:09:47] thehawthorne : The point is that a limit for refugees entering germany made by law will never pass germans courts or even the parliament
[2016-01-21 21:10:34] thehawthorne : there is a limit though, not made by law but made by circumstances like housing etc
[2016-01-21 21:10:40] zanza : Sweden is the same with this?
[2016-01-21 21:11:10] rapidtrades : in theory they can get away with it if the courts determine it's too much burden or ''threat to public safety''...but I figure the current situation wouldn't make that cut
[2016-01-21 21:11:27] zanza : because, Sweden has its own currency, while Germany has EURO. So Germany can get "bailed out" by banks to afford it easier?
[2016-01-21 21:12:07] rapidtrades : similarly to how ''healthcare for all'' has spending limits....if ur treatment cost too much, oh well tough shit
[2016-01-21 21:13:33] zanza : I think the global bankers are controlling EU/USA now, and they want "Globalism."
[2016-01-21 21:14:02] rapidtrades : I'm fine with globalism :)
[2016-01-21 21:14:09] zanza : However Eurozone has a lot of problems people do not talk about, such as not having children to sustain the population (Muslim familes have like 5+ children usually)
[2016-01-21 21:15:09] habibi : and 5+ wifes sometimes :)
[2016-01-21 21:17:42] thehawthorne : I don't think that not having children is a problem if you don't want to have children, at least if you don't bother that your "race", "family" or "nationality" will be erased from earth. People come, people go.
[2016-01-21 21:20:30] rapidtrades : yeah f*ck em
[2016-01-21 21:20:59] rapidtrades : if u don't wanna f*ck u deserve to get erased from the Erath
[2016-01-21 21:21:07] thehawthorne : HEHE
[2016-01-21 21:21:21] thehawthorne : now thats truth spoken in Bitmex Trollbox
[2016-01-21 21:31:23] rapidtrades : Euro reversed almost all losses...noone trust Super Mario anymore
[2016-01-21 21:33:23] macios15 : will this battle ever ends, dump or go up already
[2016-01-21 21:34:20] rapidtrades : are u long?
[2016-01-21 21:35:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Anyone know where I can find deposit withdrawal history>
[2016-01-21 21:37:54] habibi : deposit-blockchain, withdraw at wallet
[2016-01-21 21:41:44] rapidtrades : anyone noticed this disgusting trend of young guys growing long ass beards
[2016-01-21 21:41:55] rapidtrades : like wtf...
[2016-01-21 21:42:15] rapidtrades : you live long enough and you'll see everething
[2016-01-21 21:42:43] rapidtrades : what's next? sticking a dildo up ur ass for fashion?
[2016-01-21 21:43:49] rapidtrades : it's one thing to let a beard grow cos u don't care...but growing and grooming a beard like it's the 1700s....rly hipsters
[2016-01-21 21:58:18] thehawthorne : don't think those guys do it for fashion.. they do it to impress the girls by trying to at least look very manly even if they are not. Other may grow a beard because they have to face hair loss on their scalps and try to sort of compensate for that
[2016-01-21 21:59:51] rapidtrades : oh yeah...my cousin did that
[2016-01-21 22:00:21] rapidtrades : generally high testosterone men lose hair early...and they can grow thick beards
[2016-01-21 22:16:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thanks
[2016-01-21 22:21:51] rapidtrades : you're welcome
[2016-01-21 22:33:20] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 400 @ 412.57
[2016-01-21 22:33:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 5000 @ 414.08
[2016-01-21 22:33:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1000 @ 414.02
[2016-01-21 22:35:04] Swedishnut : I've got a beard and stache with long hair that I bind up behind me or in a scruffy man bun thing
[2016-01-21 22:36:17] rapidtrades : finally sold some nice premium
[2016-01-21 22:39:17] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: I'm sure it looks great on u dude
[2016-01-21 22:43:46] justinlooking : dafuq
[2016-01-21 22:43:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 498 @ 416.08
[2016-01-21 22:45:03] cataquil : wow this market is getting exciting again
[2016-01-21 22:45:25] Swedishnut : :) I'll have to snap a pic (needing to do a new pic anyway been 3 months. been growing the face out since June 20th 2015
[2016-01-21 22:46:29] Swedishnut : kinda looks like it wants back to 3000 yuans but, Dova is happening yet so its kinda a gamble where it may go.
[2016-01-21 22:46:37] macios15 : Swedishnut: +1
[2016-01-21 22:49:06] rapidtrades : dova?
[2016-01-21 22:50:29] jung1 : another crazy day in bitcoin trading
[2016-01-21 22:52:32] Swedishnut : yeah Dova is a meeting with bank and monetary officials. It was covered by Bloomberg. Soros is there.
[2016-01-21 22:53:28] Swedishnut : Soros said he thinks the markets are looking very similar to 2008 and he is shorting SP 500
[2016-01-21 22:54:42] HowDoge : do you mean Davos ?
[2016-01-21 22:55:51] jung1 : also looks like its kind of BIG SHORT on poland and polish zloty. S&P an JPMorgan downgrade ratings for poland
[2016-01-21 22:56:46] habibi : jung1: when did jpmorgan do it?
[2016-01-21 22:57:16] jung1 : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-21/jpmorgan-recommends-selling-zloty-as-political-risks-mount
[2016-01-21 22:57:51] jung1 : so its kind good deal now to trade btc/eur or /usd and sell it for pln
[2016-01-21 22:57:58] habibi : yea yea but when did JPmorgan downgrade rating
[2016-01-21 23:00:22] jung1 : oh not, my mistake. they just recommend selling zloty
[2016-01-21 23:00:47] habibi : yea i didnt see that information there so i thought somewhere else it is, k
[2016-01-21 23:01:39] jung1 : but still
[2016-01-21 23:01:53] jung1 : looks like someone dont like us
[2016-01-21 23:02:12] habibi : dont care, usd will be worth more so bitcoin as well
[2016-01-21 23:03:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 37 @ 413.53
[2016-01-21 23:06:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1850 @ 411.89
[2016-01-21 23:14:53] jung1 : hm
[2016-01-21 23:14:58] tscha : ready for takeoff?
[2016-01-21 23:15:02] jung1 : have no idea when we will go now
[2016-01-21 23:15:12] tscha : this is gonna be legen.... wait for it
[2016-01-21 23:15:28] jung1 : up or down>
[2016-01-21 23:15:30] jung1 : ?
[2016-01-21 23:15:40] BitMEX_Sam : Moon
[2016-01-21 23:15:41] tscha : moon or mars
[2016-01-21 23:15:45] BitMEX_Sam : Naturally
[2016-01-21 23:16:03] rapidtrades : looks like bulls are fcked
[2016-01-21 23:16:10] tscha : "takeoff" is always up unless you enter a submarine :D
[2016-01-21 23:17:05] rapidtrades : taking off up you ass
[2016-01-21 23:19:26] Swedishnut : don't temp him with a good time :P
[2016-01-21 23:19:56] Swedishnut : : P together no space you get the :P
[2016-01-21 23:20:40] lockhedge : meanwhile at the WEF in Davos: *Before blockchain, we relied on trusted institution such as a bank to act as a middleman. Now the blockchain can act as that trusted authority* The 7 technologies changing your world http://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/01/a-brief-guide-to-the-technologies-changing-world
[2016-01-21 23:21:38] Swedishnut : NICE!
[2016-01-21 23:22:02] jung1 : '16 will be really interesting
[2016-01-21 23:24:04] Swedishnut : recession through traditional failure to be revived by technical innovation is my guess. out with the old in with the new. re assess asset at year end with what still is "valuable"
[2016-01-21 23:27:34] rapidtrades : recession where?
[2016-01-21 23:38:33] jung1 : 2727 on okcoin
[2016-01-21 23:44:02] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-01-21 23:44:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1010 @ 409.55
[2016-01-21 23:45:11] Swedishnut : recession in the USA at least that is what I am seeing.
[2016-01-21 23:45:34] rapidtrades : how do u figure?
[2016-01-21 23:45:38] rapidtrades : what data are u looking at
[2016-01-21 23:49:47] Swedishnut : collection from zerohedge, marketwatch, bloomberg and soros talk today. china talking to possibly devalue yuans again, obvious manipulations that have been occuring without proper oversight leading to the large wealth gap that has been widening instead of closing. I've felt the markets need to fall since 2013 and no bankers tied to the 08 collapse were in prison. thus those idiots are out doing it again but "different"
[2016-01-21 23:53:28] Swedishnut : also the news of smart cars in 6 months, driverless every car by 2020 possibly, meaning premium insurance if you want to control your own vehicle versus minimal insurance if you trust the "Smart Driver"
[2016-01-21 23:54:35] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: any chance to add profit/loss % in calculator?
[2016-01-21 23:54:46] Swedishnut : this would further kill off the oil investments that had hoped for continued wide consumer use into 2025 and thus that money would be spent investing in the tech of change instead of the oil profiteering age we just are putting the final ending touches too
[2016-01-21 23:55:02] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: Yeah, that seems simple enough.
[2016-01-21 23:55:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 2150 @ 411.39
[2016-01-21 23:55:24] jung1 : could be usefull
[2016-01-22 00:00:33] rapidtrades : a whale has been caught
[2016-01-22 00:00:55] rapidtrades : desperately buying against the tide
[2016-01-22 00:05:25] justinlooking : lol rapid u gun get rekt again bro
[2016-01-22 00:06:37] rapidtrades : again? I've yet to get rekt once, bro
[2016-01-22 00:07:42] jung1 : get rekt or die tryin'
[2016-01-22 00:09:03] rapidtrades : PERMABULLS IN DA HOUS
[2016-01-22 00:10:37] jung1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLwItIODWL0
[2016-01-22 00:17:19] Swedishnut : yummy electric music!
[2016-01-22 00:30:07] jung1 : rekt is comming
[2016-01-22 00:30:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 200 @ 409.94
[2016-01-22 00:33:37] jung1 : will we break 2700?
[2016-01-22 00:33:56] rapidtrades : depends...is it higher or lower
[2016-01-22 00:34:38] jung1 : that make sense
[2016-01-22 00:34:56] rapidtrades : i try
[2016-01-22 01:15:23] Swedishnut : is this the period of the great quiet?
[2016-01-22 01:23:31] zanza : ok, Windows 10 is officially installed. Lets see if it handle have better memory management than 7
[2016-01-22 01:26:31] zanza : in firefox, if I have bitmex open, Tradeblock, BitcoinWisdm, and 1Broker and Reddit, it will often crash after a bit or freeze
[2016-01-22 01:43:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 4 @ 459.57 :punch: :whale:
[2016-01-22 01:43:25] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 408.00
[2016-01-22 01:47:05] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 90 @ 405.59
[2016-01-22 01:47:29] micmix : signs of banking collapse /s: Bank of America annual profit $15.9 billion, its most since 2006. JPMorgan Chase’s profit for 2015 was $24.4 billion, its best year ever
[2016-01-22 01:51:17] tscha : micmix: actually, this might be more of a sign for a banking collapse then a sign against banking collapse
[2016-01-22 01:52:08] tscha : Without researching i am sure that either 2007 or 2006, immediately before the collapse, BoA had even higher profits
[2016-01-22 01:52:31] micmix : IDK, maybe you're right
[2016-01-22 01:52:55] micmix : just hard to imagine collapse with such huge profits
[2016-01-22 01:54:35] tscha : oh you actually provided the information yourself, didn't really read
[2016-01-22 01:56:53] tscha : it's not necessarily this specific bank, but more a whole sector which can be endangered by contagion effects which arise from foul products sold by that specific bank (who then makes record profits)
[2016-01-22 01:57:37] tscha : 2007 MBS, now maybe synthetic ETFs, who knows
[2016-01-22 01:59:01] tscha : I think you gotta have real inside information to know where the garbage lies around, but some of these products are shady in terms of already providing incentives to put garbage in them
[2016-01-22 02:01:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 20000 @ 408.06 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-01-22 02:01:26] zanza : boom
[2016-01-22 02:01:42] BitMEX_Sam : Ouch.
[2016-01-22 02:02:04] habibi : that was fast
[2016-01-22 02:03:24] tscha : micmix: "just hard to imagine collapse with such huge profits" AIG 2006 +$14 billion, 2008 -$99 billion :D
[2016-01-22 02:04:16] tscha : but I agree, it's hard to imagine for us, humans tend to underestimate small probabilities on the loss side
[2016-01-22 02:08:23] micmix : tscha: makes sense, banks selling repackaged toxic assets make record profits
[2016-01-22 02:09:01] rapidtrades : it's easy to call things ''toxic'' after the fact
[2016-01-22 02:09:36] rapidtrades : if housing kept going up, no politician would care about derivatives
[2016-01-22 02:37:49] rapidtrades : noone's buying on okcoin
[2016-01-22 02:37:50] rapidtrades : usd
[2016-01-22 03:08:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 750 @ 406.95
[2016-01-22 03:11:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 345 @ 404.10
[2016-01-22 03:12:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 5500 @ 402.60
[2016-01-22 04:02:10] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6000 @ 402.08
[2016-01-22 04:02:32] habibi : its lagging for me or u too guys?
[2016-01-22 04:03:07] zanza : anyone tried firefox 64 bit?
[2016-01-22 04:05:33] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: There might be a slight lag every 8 hours when we roll to the next trading session
[2016-01-22 04:06:00] habibi : good to know thx
[2016-01-22 04:13:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1650 @ 405.61
[2016-01-22 04:36:13] habibi : nice whale
[2016-01-22 04:36:22] habibi : was bulding long since long time and now close it
[2016-01-22 04:39:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2500 @ 398.50
[2016-01-22 04:40:00] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 300 @ 450.82
[2016-01-22 04:40:19] sleger : craaaashe
[2016-01-22 04:40:56] habibi : wtf
[2016-01-22 04:40:59] habibi : exchange suspended
[2016-01-22 04:41:11] Swedishnut : which?
[2016-01-22 04:41:16] habibi : this
[2016-01-22 04:41:20] habibi : try to put order
[2016-01-22 04:41:25] habibi : greaaaaat
[2016-01-22 04:41:30] ayy lmao : rip bitmex
[2016-01-22 04:41:33] ayy lmao : loool
[2016-01-22 04:41:34] Swedishnut : wow
[2016-01-22 04:41:49] Swedishnut : yeah spread getting nutz
[2016-01-22 04:41:57] ayy lmao : tradign suspended
[2016-01-22 04:43:47] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: something bad happens?
[2016-01-22 04:43:58] BitMEX_Wally : There was a brief blip
[2016-01-22 04:44:16] micmix : back to normal, thanks for the panic fills ;-)
[2016-01-22 04:44:29] sleger : didnt last long, i agreed, almost nothing
[2016-01-22 04:45:05] micmix : 1min 50sec according to my bot
[2016-01-22 04:45:34] habibi : micmix: which fills u consider as panic ;p?
[2016-01-22 04:46:32] micmix : habibi: all fills when the spread is that high
[2016-01-22 04:46:51] habibi : micmix: that was normal coz bots put off theirs orders
[2016-01-22 04:46:55] habibi : and nothing on market left
[2016-01-22 04:48:24] micmix : well my offers couple levels down got hit, so someone couldn't wait 2 minutes and sold
[2016-01-22 04:48:40] habibi : liquidations imo
[2016-01-22 04:49:13] micmix : maybe
[2016-01-22 04:51:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 14896 @ 395.74
[2016-01-22 04:51:55] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: does your engine still process liquidations when trading is suspended?
[2016-01-22 04:52:32] BitMEX_Wally : The engine has never processed liquidations while suspended
[2016-01-22 04:52:45] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: that's what I thought
[2016-01-22 04:52:55] BitMEX_Wally : You can cancel orders during a suspension, that's about it
[2016-01-22 04:53:07] micmix : yep, makes sense
[2016-01-22 04:53:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 250 @ 394.23
[2016-01-22 04:53:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 300 @ 395.50
[2016-01-22 04:53:33] zanza : fuck Mike Hearn !!!!!!!
[2016-01-22 04:53:47] micmix : anyway, back to regularly scheduled dump ;-)
[2016-01-22 04:54:00] habibi : <3
[2016-01-22 04:54:04] zanza : rofl
[2016-01-22 04:55:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 194 @ 547.67
[2016-01-22 05:49:23] zanza : I feel bad for the 20k short that was liquidated
[2016-01-22 05:50:10] zanza : at 408 - ish, missed a nice run
[2016-01-22 05:50:14] habibi : typical for isolated
[2016-01-22 05:50:27] habibi : u can choose right way but as some said random moves will mc u
[2016-01-22 05:50:40] habibi : if we drop futher down it will be even easier
[2016-01-22 06:47:08] JDUB99 : settlement friday!
[2016-01-22 06:48:19] JDUB99 : 200K contracts to settle, most likely 90% shorts to cover？
[2016-01-22 06:48:51] rapidtrades : ha u wish
[2016-01-22 06:49:28] JDUB99 : who still has long this late？
[2016-01-22 06:50:16] JDUB99 : post dump long to be settled in <24hr?
[2016-01-22 06:52:11] rapidtrades : lot of ppl have had longs even when we crashed to $350
[2016-01-22 06:52:43] rapidtrades : lot of perma-bulls in bitcoin and esp on this site due to the quanto nature
[2016-01-22 06:53:20] JDUB99 : would those longs be in the weekly contracts？
[2016-01-22 06:53:45] rapidtrades : i don't know
[2016-01-22 06:53:59] JDUB99 : i even forgot to include 313 xbu open interesrt
[2016-01-22 06:54:37] JDUB99 : 78 coins in xubu, 800 in xbt combined to settle in a few hours
[2016-01-22 06:55:01] JDUB99 : i am willing to be most of those open interest are shorts
[2016-01-22 06:55:16] JDUB99 : the longs remaining from the 350 dump should be in mar or jun contracts
[2016-01-22 06:55:33] JDUB99 : unless they held on through the last dump in the weekly contracts
[2016-01-22 06:55:55] rapidtrades : doesn't matter
[2016-01-22 06:56:15] JDUB99 : wont that settle ment of majority shorts push up the price once they settle?
[2016-01-22 06:57:12] rapidtrades : contracts will settle at the settlement index price...noone will pay substantially over current market rates if they can just wait for settlement
[2016-01-22 06:57:40] rapidtrades : u pay 0.05% for settlement while u lose 0.075% if u hit market exit here
[2016-01-22 06:58:58] rapidtrades : bottom line, prices here are somewhat anchored by the spot usd market elsewhere...although this is true more so as we get closer to settlement
[2016-01-22 06:59:44] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 908 @ 398.87
[2016-01-22 07:00:31] JDUB99 : im pretty sure most positions about to settle are short
[2016-01-22 07:01:08] rapidtrades : oh ffs...
[2016-01-22 07:01:10] JDUB99 : maybe if the long was held by some guy who pumped up the price in a last minute dash to stop em all out, would be a big D move
[2016-01-22 07:01:33] rapidtrades : well we are seeing $5 premium so maybe ur right
[2016-01-22 07:02:13] JDUB99 : chinese ppl need clubbing money for the weekend
[2016-01-22 07:03:28] rapidtrades : I sold some more premium
[2016-01-22 07:05:09] JDUB99 : in the time we just been trolling the open interest just doubled on the daily lol
[2016-01-22 07:05:55] rapidtrades : did it
[2016-01-22 07:06:05] rapidtrades : holy shit it did
[2016-01-22 07:06:09] JDUB99 : 78k to 200+
[2016-01-22 07:06:14] JDUB99 : nutty
[2016-01-22 07:06:20] JDUB99 : someones robot is getting a hard on
[2016-01-22 07:06:29] rapidtrades : guess everyone's long now and needs to close...prices going doooown right @JDUB99
[2016-01-22 07:09:53] JDUB99 : rapidtrades: dunno what to think now, robots following the small bump and taking longs?
[2016-01-22 07:10:57] JDUB99 : spot price looks like it might breakout....maybe some one is getting ready
[2016-01-22 07:13:30] JDUB99 : i dont think it'll break out crazy tho, i think it should go sideways for a few days @rapidtrades
[2016-01-22 07:31:41] zanza : Oil is rebounding
[2016-01-22 07:32:04] zanza : rapidtrades: does firefox still lag on you ?
[2016-01-22 08:02:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 50 @ 399.86
[2016-01-22 08:03:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 3968 @ 401.53
[2016-01-22 08:03:34] JDUB99 : lol
[2016-01-22 08:03:39] JDUB99 : dick move
[2016-01-22 08:05:12] habibi : weeklys cheap
[2016-01-22 08:06:04] JDUB99 : open interest at 300K now
[2016-01-22 08:06:16] DareDevil : JDUB99: what does that mean?
[2016-01-22 08:06:47] JDUB99 : DareDevil: earlier i was talking to rapidtrades thinking that the 84k in open interest were all shorts
[2016-01-22 08:07:23] chrisxbt : lool
[2016-01-22 08:07:31] JDUB99 : DareDevil: so i theorized that someone could come in, take a bunch of long positions, then be a dick and pump the price causing everyone to get stopped out shooting his long way up while wipping out all the shorts
[2016-01-22 08:07:33] DareDevil : where do you see the open interests?
[2016-01-22 08:07:54] JDUB99 : under the full details of the contract
[2016-01-22 08:08:01] chrisxbt : on advanced
[2016-01-22 08:08:21] DareDevil : and those are currently open positions?
[2016-01-22 08:08:39] chrisxbt : also to let you know, unless there are margin calls, half will be long, half will be short.
[2016-01-22 08:08:45] JDUB99 : about two hours ago, daily open interest was at 84k, and about 20 minutes of trolling later, it jumped to 200K....no its at 300
[2016-01-22 08:09:11] habibi : yep fatfinger long
[2016-01-22 08:09:19] habibi : 4 hours before settlement
[2016-01-22 08:09:49] JDUB99 : i kno right who longs in a downtrend four hours before settlement unless they plan some serious pumping
[2016-01-22 08:10:11] habibi : on smaller scale we had same before
[2016-01-22 08:10:28] habibi : guy opened long for maybe 60k or more at 405+
[2016-01-22 08:10:37] JDUB99 : yea, it's defniitely possible....not that hard with such small cap
[2016-01-22 08:10:51] habibi : and at one point he denied, and closed it at 400 dumping 4.5 $
[2016-01-22 08:11:05] JDUB99 : sounds like he needs to fix his robot
[2016-01-22 08:11:20] habibi : nah, its a fat finger nothing else, no conspiracy theories
[2016-01-22 08:11:44] DareDevil : well, I wonder if it will break the 400 mark soon again
[2016-01-22 08:12:00] JDUB99 : instead of pressing long he pressed short?
[2016-01-22 08:12:00] JDUB99 : i done that b4.... lol
[2016-01-22 08:12:32] JDUB99 : smashed ctrl Z to no avail =*(
[2016-01-22 08:14:00] JDUB99 : what does 856% fair basis rate mean?
[2016-01-22 08:14:34] JDUB99 : im still kinda confused what that is
[2016-01-22 08:21:39] chrisxbt : on where?
[2016-01-22 08:22:43] chrisxbt : JDUB99:
[2016-01-22 08:23:39] JDUB99 : look under "full details" of each contract
[2016-01-22 08:23:48] JDUB99 : lots of important info there
[2016-01-22 08:24:10] chrisxbt : so right now its 542% ?
[2016-01-22 08:24:30] JDUB99 : if seems to fluctuate alot
[2016-01-22 08:24:49] chrisxbt : that's because its a daily contract that expires really soon
[2016-01-22 08:25:39] chrisxbt : currently the premium is like there's a 600% annual interest rate.
[2016-01-22 08:25:43] zanza : the % is annualized I believe, so 4 hours / 365 days =
[2016-01-22 08:26:03] JDUB99 : yea, but why does it matter? how is it important?
[2016-01-22 08:26:29] zanza : its how margin liquidity is caluclated
[2016-01-22 08:26:33] JDUB99 : I think arthur said in his second webinar, its used to calculate real value of a contract if you compare between daily/weekly/monthly contracts
[2016-01-22 08:27:02] chrisxbt : So the fair value is based on the fair basis and the current price
[2016-01-22 08:27:03] JDUB99 : so a high % means high liq?
[2016-01-22 08:27:46] zanza : it determines the Fair Price, which is the price used to determine liquidations
[2016-01-22 08:27:57] zanza : for the DPE system
[2016-01-22 08:28:32] JDUB99 : how can we use it as an indicator? it changes so much, does it suggest it becomes kind of useless as we approach settlement?
[2016-01-22 08:31:07] zanza : it can help you calculate time value, for comparing or trading different future expiries
[2016-01-22 08:31:31] zanza : lots of different strategies, Arthur goes over a LOT of stuff in blog/webinar
[2016-01-22 08:32:12] JDUB99 : yeah great stuff, a little technical though
[2016-01-22 08:32:18] JDUB99 : gotta review it several times
[2016-01-22 08:32:30] zanza : very technical
[2016-01-22 08:32:34] JDUB99 : before kinda feel like it sinks it
[2016-01-22 08:33:17] JDUB99 : nice tho considering this would normally cost thousands of dollars in training fees
[2016-01-22 08:35:14] zanza : yup!
[2016-01-22 08:36:47] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-21/our-europe-dying-german-youth-blast-merkels-multicultural-utopia
[2016-01-22 08:38:39] JDUB99 : *sigh* aaaaand we're back in the dark ages
[2016-01-22 08:39:12] JDUB99 : internet to the rescue?
[2016-01-22 08:40:37] JDUB99 : maybe germany can use marijuana gas chambers and smoke em out untili they are too high to do anything except get fat on cheetos
[2016-01-22 08:46:37] zanza : i agree Germany should legalize marijauna :)
[2016-01-22 08:46:39] rapidtrades : 7% swings in the Ruble past 24hrs
[2016-01-22 08:46:48] zanza : rapidtrades: does your firefox still freeze?
[2016-01-22 08:47:01] rapidtrades : ofc, always
[2016-01-22 08:47:15] zanza : try install 64 bit version
[2016-01-22 08:47:22] zanza : it helping me
[2016-01-22 08:47:35] rapidtrades : I think my win is 32 though
[2016-01-22 08:49:00] zanza : u sure?
[2016-01-22 08:49:06] rapidtrades : yya
[2016-01-22 08:49:24] zanza : yeah ruble got rekt
[2016-01-22 08:49:28] zanza : install 64 bit windows
[2016-01-22 08:49:35] zanza : its free
[2016-01-22 08:49:45] rapidtrades : how is it ''free''
[2016-01-22 08:49:53] JDUB99 : russia running on 32bit win10 lol
[2016-01-22 08:50:07] habibi : delete system32 at windows dir, or rename it to system64. much faster solution :)
[2016-01-22 08:50:18] JDUB99 : =O
[2016-01-22 08:50:35] JDUB99 : wtf, that can't work...
[2016-01-22 08:51:00] habibi : ofc it works
[2016-01-22 08:51:17] zanza : rofl habibi
[2016-01-22 08:51:29] zanza : then charge your iphone in the microwave after
[2016-01-22 08:51:37] zanza : for permanent battery full
[2016-01-22 08:52:01] habibi : exacly, thats my second great tip
[2016-01-22 08:52:07] JDUB99 : awsum
[2016-01-22 08:52:07] JDUB99 : so many life hax!
[2016-01-22 08:52:20] habibi : but only for max 2 minutes at max power 900 watt
[2016-01-22 08:53:02] habibi : dont over load ur battery coz then u won't have to load it for long time and NSA will start to interesting after u
[2016-01-22 08:53:03] zanza : yes no more :)
[2016-01-22 08:56:04] habibi : u can even charge ur tesla car with that way if u have big enought microwave oven
[2016-01-22 08:57:13] zanza : i dont understand this 300k open inteerst now
[2016-01-22 08:57:26] habibi : fat finger looking for bouncing
[2016-01-22 08:57:54] JDUB99 : it could easily break out of this, if they can trigger everyones stops
[2016-01-22 08:58:29] JDUB99 : 200K of open interest piled on in the span of 90 minutes in two waves
[2016-01-22 08:58:45] habibi : waat? easily if...
[2016-01-22 08:59:07] zanza : JDUB99: they do not use market liquidations here
[2016-01-22 08:59:23] zanza : so you cannot use that strategy
[2016-01-22 08:59:46] JDUB99 : zanza: not here, but on exchanges, everyone has their own stops on the exchanges, and as those stops execute, bitmex will follow
[2016-01-22 08:59:57] habibi : JDUB99: btw u know all moves starts here, if someone would push price to 402 on 24h chinese and finex would probally follow and skyrocket
[2016-01-22 09:00:39] rapidtrades : JDUB99: I don't use spots anywhere
[2016-01-22 09:00:49] JDUB99 : habibi: i am skeptical, that market moves as a result of bitmex move, it should be the opposite, bitmex stops out as exchanges start breaking
[2016-01-22 09:01:30] zanza : bitmex contribution now is small % to price fluxuation only
[2016-01-22 09:01:37] zanza : it mostly reacts, yes
[2016-01-22 09:01:42] JDUB99 : rapidtrades: but what about others chinese traders? pump in a bunch and watch things go? if the breakout happened on exchanges, bitmex would surely follow
[2016-01-22 09:02:12] zanza : we may see a MEGA REKT soon
[2016-01-22 09:02:20] rapidtrades : we're going down...that's all I know
[2016-01-22 09:02:23] JDUB99 : one chinese guy could pump in some of his maserati money, and watch the markets go like blowing on ants
[2016-01-22 09:02:47] JDUB99 : on settlement friday, would set off chain reaction
[2016-01-22 09:02:55] zanza : they have been doing that for a long time already
[2016-01-22 09:02:59] rapidtrades : settlement is over FFS
[2016-01-22 09:03:05] rapidtrades : FCK STOPS
[2016-01-22 09:03:08] JDUB99 : i wonder if other futures platforms also saw a huge pump in open interest in the last 5 hours
[2016-01-22 09:03:23] zanza : habibi: does floopyfloop come on lately?
[2016-01-22 09:03:36] habibi : didnt see him in chat for some time
[2016-01-22 09:03:38] rapidtrades : haven't seen him in ages
[2016-01-22 09:03:51] zanza : yeah, must be a month that i remember at least
[2016-01-22 09:03:56] rapidtrades : I think he shorted too soon :(
[2016-01-22 09:04:18] rapidtrades : prolly too big as well...most here trade way too big
[2016-01-22 09:07:13] JDUB99 : 100x is CRACK!
[2016-01-22 09:07:46] JDUB99 : EASY to lose yourself!
[2016-01-22 09:08:03] habibi : not if u have upgraded 64 bit system JDUB99
[2016-01-22 09:08:13] JDUB99 : lol omg
[2016-01-22 09:08:22] zanza : that oil bounce
[2016-01-22 09:08:55] JDUB99 : if i erase system64 and hax it to system128 will i pop a donald trump?
[2016-01-22 09:09:10] habibi : lol wat?
[2016-01-22 09:09:11] habibi : are u mad?
[2016-01-22 09:09:52] habibi : if u have amd at least 4 cores then ur OS will works kind of 4 times faster than with system32 dir
[2016-01-22 09:10:46] habibi : if intel then u will have 2x more memory so called hidden ram
[2016-01-22 09:11:14] JDUB99 : wtf habibi this is twilight zone IT support
[2016-01-22 09:11:31] JDUB99 : you must know alot of something i that i dont
[2016-01-22 09:12:45] habibi : lel, once i told zanza to delete my computer from desktop, it was 2 months ago and he still cant find his pc
[2016-01-22 09:13:17] zanza : can confirm, typing on smartphone
[2016-01-22 09:13:36] JDUB99 : lol i bet his productivity jumped up
[2016-01-22 09:14:11] JDUB99 : maybe i should do that too.....spending way too much time babysitting my shitcoins
[2016-01-22 09:14:44] JDUB99 : ignoring my son growing up and all that
[2016-01-22 09:15:37] habibi : cheap weeklies btw
[2016-01-22 09:16:56] habibi : how old is ur son? i have some good tips for young fathers as well
[2016-01-22 09:17:28] rapidtrades : habibi: delete son?
[2016-01-22 09:17:59] JDUB99 : lol seriuosly....habibi will tell me to format his whatever to find his "hidden ram"
[2016-01-22 09:18:21] habibi : lol u crazy man. how would u delete son? its not that easy if u didnt do it before his birth
[2016-01-22 09:18:46] rapidtrades : yeah it is...just hit UNDO
[2016-01-22 09:19:01] JDUB99 : but you can still reformat! repartition that turd
[2016-01-22 09:19:24] lockhedge : Bitfinex API down
[2016-01-22 09:20:49] habibi : if we wont hold these lvls whale gonna get rekt :D
[2016-01-22 09:26:11] micmix : lockhedge: down for the last 8 min or so
[2016-01-22 09:26:35] lockhedge : now up again https://frankfurt.robotfinance.org/bix/
[2016-01-22 09:27:17] micmix : lockhedge: got an alert, had to get out of bed and check. works sporadically
[2016-01-22 09:28:05] lockhedge : micmix: so everything is fine again, sleep well ;)
[2016-01-22 09:28:36] micmix : lockhedge: thanks :-) going to wait couple minutes then go back
[2016-01-22 09:31:06] micmix : getting 502 Bad Gateway now
[2016-01-22 09:31:36] rapidtrades : GOOD
[2016-01-22 09:33:56] lockhedge : micmix: on Bitfinex? i'm having a relatively low and stable latency from both servers https://la.robotfinance.org/bix/
[2016-01-22 09:35:23] rapidtrades : f*ck LA
[2016-01-22 09:36:12] micmix : lockhedge: yes, from Bitfinex on some REST calls. back to normal now, looks like caching proxy problems.
[2016-01-22 09:39:46] micmix : lockhedge: I made some changes in error handing code in our system so I enabled alerts to have a look in case I did something wrong. Looks good, going back to bed. See you all tomorrow
[2016-01-22 09:40:17] rapidtrades : bye you'll wake up to $350 bitcoin
[2016-01-22 09:40:18] lockhedge : micmix: see you!
[2016-01-22 09:40:40] micmix : rapidtrades: don't f*ck LA girls, you'll get california, it's hard to cure :-)
[2016-01-22 09:52:37] rapidtrades : GUYS WE'RE ENTERING CALC PERIOD IN 8 MINS
[2016-01-22 09:54:51] aethlios : and no DPE for long term contracts.
[2016-01-22 09:55:11] rapidtrades : ....yet
[2016-01-22 10:05:48] habibi : btw long term are settled today at what price?
[2016-01-22 10:06:42] aethlios : habibi: based on their fair price.
[2016-01-22 10:07:19] aethlios : it's a weekly rebalance, not settlement.
[2016-01-22 10:07:41] habibi : yea yea thats my point
[2016-01-22 10:09:43] jung1 : long term in 24th of july will be like 3 times bigger than now
[2016-01-22 10:09:45] jung1 : imo
[2016-01-22 10:10:06] aethlios : if dash hits 20 usd, consider adding it.
[2016-01-22 10:11:13] jung1 : is there any other exchange with dach margin except polo?
[2016-01-22 10:11:40] aethlios : jung1: all volume is in polo (95%)
[2016-01-22 10:12:06] jung1 : true
[2016-01-22 10:13:09] jung1 : dash, bitshares, xrp and ltc are my types for biggest pump in '16
[2016-01-22 10:14:25] jung1 : + eth
[2016-01-22 10:14:30] jung1 : of course
[2016-01-22 10:16:20] habibi : too much hopium
[2016-01-22 10:17:31] jung1 : dont put all your eggs into one basket
[2016-01-22 10:21:43] jung1 : and keep an eye on mericoin
[2016-01-22 10:21:59] habibi : eth and zerocoin if will start
[2016-01-22 10:22:01] jung1 : its quite new project but microsoft add them to azure
[2016-01-22 10:22:17] jung1 : will hit $1 easly
[2016-01-22 10:22:23] jung1 : now around 02-03
[2016-01-22 10:22:36] habibi : mericoin?
[2016-01-22 10:22:45] rapidtrades : no shitcoin talk plz
[2016-01-22 10:23:19] jung1 : yeah
[2016-01-22 10:23:29] jung1 : microsoft add them with eth and ripple
[2016-01-22 10:27:27] jung1 : sory emercoin
[2016-01-22 10:27:29] jung1 : https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-blockchain-as-a-service-update-3
[2016-01-22 10:28:14] jung1 : all that bitcoin names are so fucked
[2016-01-22 10:28:20] jung1 : bit-something
[2016-01-22 10:28:24] jung1 : something-coin
[2016-01-22 10:28:33] jung1 : like internet comapanies im '90
[2016-01-22 10:28:36] jung1 : e-market
[2016-01-22 10:28:42] jung1 : e-something
[2016-01-22 10:29:08] jung1 : same is now with cryptocurrencies
[2016-01-22 10:29:19] jung1 : and all that stufff will be as huge as internet now
[2016-01-22 10:29:33] jung1 : and maybe here on trollbox is another bill gates
[2016-01-22 10:29:40] rapidtrades : doubt it
[2016-01-22 10:29:42] habibi : who cares as long as they are not registered
[2016-01-22 10:30:05] jung1 : not registered?
[2016-01-22 10:30:11] jung1 : look on biggest bitcoin comapnies
[2016-01-22 10:30:32] jung1 : bitpay, coinbase, bitstamp
[2016-01-22 10:30:51] jung1 : everything sound alike
[2016-01-22 10:32:28] rapidtrades : Soros is short S&P
[2016-01-22 10:33:24] habibi : ah thought u talking about shitcoins names
[2016-01-22 10:34:00] jung1 : also
[2016-01-22 10:34:51] jung1 : best shitcoins name so far for me are monero, franko and ethereum
[2016-01-22 10:47:57] rapidtrades : crash into settlement fellas?
[2016-01-22 10:48:05] rapidtrades : yes yes?
[2016-01-22 10:48:34] jung1 : if you say so im going long
[2016-01-22 10:49:41] rapidtrades : do it b1tch
[2016-01-22 11:17:51] thehawthorne : crash if we break 392-390s
[2016-01-22 11:17:59] rapidtrades : pretty much
[2016-01-22 11:18:02] thehawthorne : else up to 401 agaib
[2016-01-22 11:18:24] habibi : or just chop chop chop in 30-40 yuan range
[2016-01-22 11:18:44] thehawthorne : guess it will be a day of chop chop todays european session
[2016-01-22 11:18:50] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-01-22 11:19:01] thehawthorne : movement next asian in about 12 hrs
[2016-01-22 11:19:06] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-01-22 11:19:12] thehawthorne : hehe
[2016-01-22 11:19:19] thehawthorne : so share your view of things happening
[2016-01-22 11:19:28] rapidtrades : crash imminent
[2016-01-22 11:19:45] habibi : shiet. i was hoping for that
[2016-01-22 11:19:47] habibi : now no chance
[2016-01-22 11:19:59] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-01-22 11:20:07] Akaiapc40 : rapidtrades: why so sure?
[2016-01-22 11:20:17] rapidtrades : charts look very bearish
[2016-01-22 11:20:19] habibi : he is perma bear
[2016-01-22 11:20:22] habibi : thats why
[2016-01-22 11:20:28] Akaiapc40 : lol
[2016-01-22 11:20:29] rapidtrades : I am not
[2016-01-22 11:21:02] Akaiapc40 : also 2 days ago chartes lookes bearish and we had a huge rise
[2016-01-22 11:21:11] Akaiapc40 : btw let's see
[2016-01-22 11:22:32] thehawthorne : well MACD and The Willy are indicating bearish movement too but i don't think its about now to happen
[2016-01-22 11:22:53] thehawthorne : atleast won't go short before we go below 390s
[2016-01-22 11:43:11] Akaiapc40 : massive 100K on buy side
[2016-01-22 11:44:07] rapidtrades : ok
[2016-01-22 11:44:19] jung1 : nice 100k
[2016-01-22 11:44:25] jung1 : one of biggest here
[2016-01-22 11:44:28] jung1 : btw
[2016-01-22 11:44:32] jung1 : uk ftw https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/492972/gs-16-1-distributed-ledger-technology.pdf
[2016-01-22 11:46:53] jung1 : but that buy order 15min before settlement?
[2016-01-22 11:47:09] habibi : to save fees jung1
[2016-01-22 11:47:15] rapidtrades : f him..we're going down
[2016-01-22 11:47:35] habibi : overreacting rapidtrades
[2016-01-22 11:47:37] aethlios : jung1: closing short position, 250 usd fees
[2016-01-22 11:47:37] habibi : its still chooop
[2016-01-22 11:51:55] jung1 : ok thanks
[2016-01-22 11:52:11] JDUB99 : Race to the bottom!
[2016-01-22 11:54:18] jung1 : I have no problems with that
[2016-01-22 11:57:00] habibi : jung1: zmieniłeś wygląd strony? na plus
[2016-01-22 11:57:20] jung1 : w sierpniu jakos juz
[2016-01-22 11:57:42] habibi : hm, w każdym razie ładnie :p
[2016-01-22 11:57:49] jung1 : będzie lepiej
[2016-01-22 11:58:08] jung1 : powoli kosze konkurencje, jak narazie cointelegraph sie zawinął hehe
[2016-01-22 11:58:18] habibi : who wanna close long?
[2016-01-22 11:58:20] habibi : before settle?
[2016-01-22 11:58:54] habibi : idiots... u loosing money every minute u not closing.
[2016-01-22 12:03:09] Akaiapc40 : lol....start rising just after settlement
[2016-01-22 12:03:12] Akaiapc40 : what a troll
[2016-01-22 12:03:39] BitMEX_Wally : Futures will always rise after settlement... there's an extra 24 hours of basis
[2016-01-22 12:11:41] rapidtrades : hey I have some long some short in okc futures....how do I work out my exposure
[2016-01-22 12:12:13] rapidtrades : net is 18 but they were entered at difff prices so the calc is not helpful
[2016-01-22 12:13:42] rapidtrades : I know the approximate value but I need a more accurate way to calc
[2016-01-22 12:16:34] HowDoge : THE RT HON MATTHEW HANCOCK - As listed in that article should not be trusted. I despise him and every he stands for
[2016-01-22 12:16:52] HowDoge : sorry for caps. he is a imbecile
[2016-01-22 12:16:57] habibi : who?